I'm ready to challenge Big Brother over Taking the Lane

Hey, comrade, look at all the "choices" we've got down here...

Originally Posted by mlts22
"With the system we have, there are not that many choices though.

If someone wanted to get from Dell headquarters in Round Rock to
downtown Austin, they can:

Drive a motorized vehicle that goes over 45 mph (car, motorcycle, high
speed moped).
Get a ride from a carpool, take a taxi or limo.
Walk the 15 miles on the side of frontage roads, and take detours
around pedestrian prohibited areas.
Attempt to bicycle on frontage roads with 55mph speed limits, no
shoulders, 8 foot drainage ditches, and heavy traffic. Yes, it can be
done, but it's extremely unsafe due to the difference in speed between
vehicles exiting at highway speeds, going over multiple lanes, and a
relatively low speed bike.

Its not really communist when there is only one practical choice
because of how the area is designed. I'm sure people don't like having
to use gas to get to work and back, but there are no real
alternatives.

Unless rail is put in, the only alternative to this that doesn't use
gas/oil are electric vehicles that can do highway speeds, and have the
range to get to a destination and back. This shifts the energy to the
grid, but here in Austin, a good chunk of power comes from wind/solar,
so the more electric vehicles, the better."

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Either we speed on to catch up with the "rat race," or we make the
rats, I mean the pigs, slow down for humans.

One choice, the party choice, seems pretty Stalinist to me.

In article ,
KingOfTheApes writes:
On Aug 16, 10:47*am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

Maybe someday you'll get it right, and not be my enemy anymore.

But I'm not holding my breath.
Rembember this:
"MY STRUGGLE IS NOT AGAINST THE PUPPET, BUT AGAINST THE PUPPETEER!"
* *^^^^^^^^^^^
Mein Kampf.
What Mein Kampf,

Yours, to which you refer in the above obscure quote.

dirty pig? You are some sort of Stalinist comrade.
You are a liability to the true ideals of the revolution.

Thank Goodness for that.
Keep your bathtub revolution to yourself.

This is what you have to say,
"I'm a dirty pig... so what?"

You're definitely not invited to my next
birthday party. Live with that. I know
I will.


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On Aug 16, 11:22*am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

On Aug 16, 10:47*am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

Maybe someday you'll get it right, and not be my enemy anymore.

But I'm not holding my breath.
Rembember this:
"MY STRUGGLE IS NOT AGAINST THE PUPPET, BUT AGAINST THE PUPPETEER!"
* *^^^^^^^^^^^
Mein Kampf.
What Mein Kampf,

Yours, to which you refer in the above obscure quote.

dirty pig? You are some sort of Stalinist comrade.
You are a liability to the true ideals of the revolution.

Thank Goodness for that.
Keep your bathtub revolution to yourself.

This is what you have to say,
"I'm a dirty pig... so what?"

You're definitely not invited to my next
birthday party. *Live with that. *I know
I will.


I'd never get close to a dirty pig.

What's the main attraction at that party, "MUD WRESTLING"?

In article ,
KingOfTheApes writes:
On Aug 16, 11:22*am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

On Aug 16, 10:47*am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

Maybe someday you'll get it right, and not be my enemy anymore.

But I'm not holding my breath.
Rembember this:
"MY STRUGGLE IS NOT AGAINST THE PUPPET, BUT AGAINST THE PUPPETEER!"
* *^^^^^^^^^^^
Mein Kampf.
What Mein Kampf,

Yours, to which you refer in the above obscure quote.

dirty pig? You are some sort of Stalinist comrade.
You are a liability to the true ideals of the revolution.

Thank Goodness for that.
Keep your bathtub revolution to yourself.

This is what you have to say,
"I'm a dirty pig... so what?"

You're definitely not invited to my next
birthday party. *Live with that. *I know
I will.

I'd never get close to a dirty pig.

You'd never get close to anything that has
volition enough to avoid you. Perhaps you
can befriend a fencepost or a mailbox.

What's the main attraction at that party, "MUD WRESTLING"?

You're still yelling. You really should stop doing that.
Really. If you at all /can/. But perhaps I hope for
too much from you.


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In article ,
KingOfTheApes writes:

You work against cycling. */You're/ the one with the agendumb.
/You're/ the one trying to convince riders to be antisocial,
driver-hating road hogs. *You are subverting the cycling cause.
Artlessly attempting to, anyways.

Oh no, I'm working to liberate them from their cages, their insurance,
their gas, their parking, their diets and their boredom.

Yeah, right.

So how come you concentrate on persuading people about how
it can't be done, instead of showing how it can be done?

And who (besides yourself) elected you to be god, anyways?


They are not the enemy. The ones that force ONE CHOICE upon us are the
enemy. And that choice is very predictable...

Lazy people always opt for picking the low-hanging fruit.
Duhhhh! BTW, that's what renders you so highly vulnerable.

"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'

What an utter crock of glib offal.

Upton Sinclair should stick a nailgun to his head, and
subsequently write vampire novels. And maybe change his
given name to something normal.



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On Aug 16, 1:19*pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * KingOfTheApes writes:

You work against cycling. */You're/ the one with the agendumb.
/You're/ the one trying to convince riders to be antisocial,
driver-hating road hogs. *You are subverting the cycling cause.
Artlessly attempting to, anyways.
Oh no, I'm working to liberate them from their cages, their insurance,
their gas, their parking, their diets and their boredom.

Yeah, right.

So how come you concentrate on persuading people about how
it can't be done, instead of showing how it can be done?

And who (besides yourself) elected you to be god, anyways?

They are not the enemy. The ones that force ONE CHOICE upon us are the
enemy. And that choice is very predictable...

Lazy people always opt for picking the low-hanging fruit.
Duhhhh! *BTW, that's what renders you so highly vulnerable.

"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'

What an utter crock of glib offal.

Upton Sinclair should stick a nailgun to his head, and
subsequently write vampire novels. *And maybe change his
given name to something normal.

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I'm ignoring your NOISE POLLUTION to address the real issues...

(actually you should abandon all resistance to the revolution too)

Originally Posted by coasting
"driving in the city is a gigantic pain in the ass. being totally
stationary for hours makes me scream. this week i was doing a 5 mile
journey and it took me 3 hours becasue of only 2 accidents on 2 main
roads and caused gridlock to not only those 2 roads but all
surrounding roads so there was no escape. i wish i had my bike in the
car so i could just abandon the car and ride home."

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Hey, a foldable is the way to go.

Check this out...

http://atom.smasher.org/highway/?l1=...s%21& l3=&l4=

Originally Posted by Nicodemus
"you in London? Doesn't really matter much though does it - same
gridlock even in other cities and even many towns. I remember some
cute numbers I read somewhere once - average traffic speed London
1905: 12mph. Average speed 2005: 12mph. How sad is that?"

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And then you need an army in Iraq to support all those pigs sitting in
traffic and burning fuel.

Well, good thing you are out of it.

KingOfTheApes wrote:
On Aug 16, 5:30 am, Keitht KeithT wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Me the next Rosa Parks? That and more people are saying at the Legal
Forum above.
Hey, are you on the side of the predator or the prey?
Do we have to pick sides or is it just assumed that people will veer one
way or the other.
What about those who may prefer splinters up thier arse?
Or those who have no wish to be lumped in with others?

C.B. may well be from across the pond but to answer Gary Glitter's query
- I don't really want to be in your gang, nor will I take the
solipsistic's mother's way out and insist that everyone else is marching
out of step.

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Come to Dave & Boris - your cycle security experts.

You may be one step ahead in Evolution, but one way or another you are
in this mess. You created this, right?

But also British troops and your own population are at risk for
defending "freedom," right?



Evolution? -- it's just entropy for optimists ;-)


I'll have you know that us Brits were giving freedom to people across
the planet long before we chucked out a bunch of religious nuts that
washed up ashore elsewhere. Not that most (if not all) of those people
were ever asked if the freedom they'd been given was the one they wanted
but they got it anyway.

We gave those free people the bicycle* and look what happened?
Used 'em in wars and uprisings against us!
No gratitude, no pleasing some people.




*knew there was some way to get a bike in somewhere.
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Come to Dave & Boris - your cycle security experts.

In article ,
KingOfTheApes writes:


I'm ignoring your NOISE POLLUTION to address the real issues...

Out of the mouths of babes.

And you're still yelling.


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In article ,
Tom Sherman °_° writes:
Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
ComandanteBanana writes:

AM I AS A CYCLIST ENTITLED TO THE FULL LANE OF TRAFFIC?

Not generally. Taking the lane is a tactic to occasionally
be artfully and temporarily employed in micro-circumstances,
and to be relinquished at the earliest safe opportunity.

And you are certainly no Rosa Parks.
[...]

Mike V*nd*m*n would be a better comparison.

Only insofar as a somewhat mutual monomania between
the two of them.

CommandanteBanana (aka KingOfTheApes, aka Don Quijote,
aka Orlando) has been induced to reveal his true colours,
and they aren't very pretty, are they? MV is just an
annoying blowhard. CB poses a real social threat.
Or at least, he wants to. He sure gets frustrated when
we don't let 'im.


cheers,
Tom









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