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Scott wrote:
I've tried the so-called 'strength endurance' intervals before and know that they work for me. Don't know how/why, but don't care, either. Also, I've read numerous articles by reasonably talented guys (Danny Pate, Colby Pearce, etc) who swear by these workouts during certain periods of their training. They, too, don't know why they work, but they do them nonetheless. I don't think anyone says "they don't work." The question is, do they work better than, the same as, or worse than other ways you could be spending your time. |
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
The problem here is that LB is about 225 miles away from the course. He is in Frisco, TX and the race in near Austin. He has no hills to speak of. What he has though, is a lot of wind. It's a poor substitute, but he needs to do a lot of into the wind intervals and tempo work. You don't need to train on hills in order to do okay in racing on them, but it certainly makes things easier. |
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In article
, LawBoy01 wrote: I'm targeting Lago Vista as my first race in the TXBRA series for this year. It's a hilly SOB, and I've been training with 53/42 and 12-23. A friend said that is stupid. Is it? Should I be training with gears that I will actually use in the race, like 53/39 and 13-26? Carl might have done this one if he was at camp in Texas with the National Team back in the day. I don't know any specific training to suggest for Lago, but in my experience at that race the climbs are not as physically demanding as they are tactically important. Lago for you (Cat 4?) will be three to five laps of an 8 mile (?) circuit with few short steep climbs, rollers with a fair amount of speed carried between the down and up, and one major roller-coaster drop with an equally major wall to climb on the other side. The lower Cats tend to approach the first small climbs slow, and as a tight pack. With no momentum you'll be working to climb every inch. The pack will be wall-to-wall (centerline rule enforced by ME on the moto), bunching up at the bottom of even the easiest climb. There is always some fumbling for the right gear, chains jumping off and feet unclipping (big field, early season). If no one falls over, the group will stretch out as everyone finds their pace. If you didn't move to the front preemptively, react quickly to the speed change or train hard enough - you could join the riders typically dropped on the first lap. If you're in good form and the rubber band snaps back - you'll have a few minutes to recover before the next stair step on the way to high elevation side of the loop. Position yourself and react well to each turn upward and you'll get to have fun with the group as they make the turn for home on the high end of the course and gain speed before going through the 50mph 'gravity well' that defines this course. Carry as much speed as possible from the turn and into the drop, avoid getting caught behind anyone unprepared for the wall on the other side, and be in a good gear to finish - you don't want to get stalled near the top. There will be a bit of regrouping before the pace will rise again as you make two final drops down to water level beside the lake, and the last one propels you into a long flat sprint to the short but steep rise to the finish line. Lago is no fun solo (except for a win), so do what you can to hold on. See you there, or in Frisco if you're helping us with Superdrome resurfacing. Mike G. - |
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On Feb 2, 1:44*pm, "Robert Chung"
wrote: LawBoy01 wrote: When I am doing hill repeats, I sometimes force myself to sit and grind up the climb with no less than 60 rpm while keeping up witht folks using smaller gears. *I just think that I am killing myself without benefit sometimes. *I suspect that your advice is correct. John Phillip Lawboy: Use the gears you're going to use. Cadence is a red herring. Focus on power. Dumbass - I don't agree with the gear thing. No matter how hard you try in training, you'll find yourself doing stuff in races that you could never do in training. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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William Asher wrote:
But doesn't that make him a gay asstard like everyone else here? No offense Carl. And we haven't seen the podium for sundays LIVEDRUNK sponsored cyclocross race he was advertising. |
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Robert Chung wrote:
That must've been his secret for winning that stage over the Gavia. Susan's visiting with Schwartz's chimera twin plastic surgeon at the moment. I'm sure normal service will be resumed shortly. |
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:03:27 -0800 (PST), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote: On Feb 2, 1:44*pm, "Robert Chung" wrote: LawBoy01 wrote: When I am doing hill repeats, I sometimes force myself to sit and grind up the climb with no less than 60 rpm while keeping up witht folks using smaller gears. *I just think that I am killing myself without benefit sometimes. *I suspect that your advice is correct. John Phillip Lawboy: Use the gears you're going to use. Cadence is a red herring. Focus on power. I don't agree with the gear thing. No matter how hard you try in training, you'll find yourself doing stuff in races that you could never do in training. Yeah. But sometimes I think the best riders are those who can occassionally go much deeper/harder/faster in training. |
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Robert Chung wrote:
That must've been his secret for winning that stage over the Gavia. http://greenjersey.files.wordpress.c...gavia_1988.jpg |
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Robert Chung wrote:
That must've been his secret for winning that stage over the Gavia. Susan Walker wrote: http://greenjersey.files.wordpress.c...gavia_1988.jpg Normal service has been resumed. |
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