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"Phil W Lee" wrote in message ... "Thumper" considered Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:32:41 +0100 the perfect time to write: "Paul Cummins" wrote in message .uk... In article , (Thumper) wrote: Despite it being quite a wide cycle lane this cyclist was riding about 2 feet outside the lane with an ever increasing line of vehicles behind him. Is a bicycle a "road vehicle"? Yes if so, what is the problem with him using the road. Nothing at all, but there was a cycle lane marked on the road specifically for him to use. If he had stayed in that cycle lane he would've travelled the road just as fast and vehicles would've passed him safely. What he was doing was the same as a car driver being halfway between lanes on a dual carriageway. Was he using more than one lane then? If not, I fail to see the equivalence. Not in the cycle lane that cars cannot drive in. In the part of the road that cars can drive in, so effectively taking up both areas of road. It is entirely up to the cyclist whether he uses a cycle lane or not. So many of them are actively dangerous that the existence of a cycle lane is usually a very good indication of the most hazardous position for a cyclist to be on the road. This is a normal cycle lane on a straight road. No major roads to the left. road ends at a proper roundabout. |
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On 30/07/2013 23:32, Thumper wrote:
"Paul Cummins" wrote in message k... In article , (Thumper) wrote: Despite it being quite a wide cycle lane this cyclist was riding about 2 feet outside the lane with an ever increasing line of vehicles behind him. Is a bicycle a "road vehicle"? Yes if so, what is the problem with him using the road. Nothing at all, but there was a cycle lane marked on the road specifically for him to use. If he had stayed in that cycle lane he would've travelled the road just as fast and vehicles would've passed him safely. What he was doing was the same as a car driver being halfway between lanes on a dual carriageway. But you just KNOW that nothing is going to happen to the cyclist because we are above the law :-) |
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On 30/07/2013 23:54, Nick wrote:
On 30/07/2013 13:51, Thumper wrote: Saw a cyclist this morning on a road that links the town centre with the by-pass, so it's a fairly busy road. It is a 40 limit and there is a marked cycle lane on the road. Despite it being quite a wide cycle lane this cyclist was riding about 2 feet outside the lane with an ever increasing line of vehicles behind him. At 8.44 am today I noticed a car just left by the side of the road, effectively blocking the left hand carriage way. This was causing severe congestion as other innocent car drivers and cyclists had to wait for a break in the steady stream of cars coming for the opposite direction before they could safely pull into the opposite lane to manoeuvre around this obstruction. I often see cars left by the side of the road causing this type of obstruction. But this morning I thought to myself enough is enough, I need to do something about this selfishness. So I resolved to tackle the problem by making this strongly critical post to usenet. roflmao |
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On 31/07/2013 17:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote: "TMS320" considered Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:52:57 +0100 the perfect time to write: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... "TMS320" wrote in message ... "Mrcheerful" wrote "TMS320" wrote in message "Mrcheerful" wrote you should post it to a car or driving group. Hint - I have removed uk.rec.driving from this reply. Check the headers in the rest of the thread. (Though the blurred vision you get from the excitement of reading reports of supposed "wrong doing" of cyclists can't be helped by all those bottles you buy.) I noticed too late that there were multiple groups, it is not something that I would look at before posting and only spotted it in the sent items. I cancelled the message within moments, but apparently it still got through, yet does not show up for me. Ah well. I hope you're more observant when you're driving. It's the inability to notice small detail that causes crashes. What are all these bottles that I buy? ...poor memory too. Y'know, the ones that weigh down your weekly shopping. Did I describe my weekly shopping? or just state the weight? The weight is clue to liquid content. I doubt you buy a bag of cement every week. How do we know it isn't cider? Or meths, which would explain his poor eyesight. Even if my shopping was entirely strong spirits, no-one has yet explained how it would be viable for me to collect it using a bicycle. I do my shopping by bike. Why not? |
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JNugent wrote:
On 31/07/2013 14:32, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , lid (Scion) wrote: The law provides a specific right to use a public highway: the right to pass and re-pass along the highway (including the pavement), and the right to make ordinary and 'reasonable use' of the highway. By needlessly obstructing faster traffic the cyclist is not making reasonable use of the road That's not what "reasonable" means Please cite the statute or regulation. As far as I'm aware obstructing is difficult one to prove, being held up maybe tedious, realisticly not illegal unless it went on for a very long time, which is unlikely on a urban road to put it mildly. Roger -- www.rogermerriman.com |
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Brian Robertson wrote:
On 30/07/2013 23:32, Thumper wrote: "Paul Cummins" wrote in message k... In article , (Thumper) wrote: Despite it being quite a wide cycle lane this cyclist was riding about 2 feet outside the lane with an ever increasing line of vehicles behind him. Is a bicycle a "road vehicle"? Yes if so, what is the problem with him using the road. Nothing at all, but there was a cycle lane marked on the road specifically for him to use. If he had stayed in that cycle lane he would've travelled the road just as fast and vehicles would've passed him safely. What he was doing was the same as a car driver being halfway between lanes on a dual carriageway. But you just KNOW that nothing is going to happen to the cyclist because we are above the law :-) but you don't seem to manage minor nudges, potholes, fence posts, kerbs, railway crossings, tram lines, hills, slippery roads, subways etc. etc. |
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Brian Robertson wrote:
On 31/07/2013 17:55, Mrcheerful wrote: Phil W Lee wrote: "TMS320" considered Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:52:57 +0100 the perfect time to write: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... "TMS320" wrote in message ... "Mrcheerful" wrote "TMS320" wrote in message "Mrcheerful" wrote you should post it to a car or driving group. Hint - I have removed uk.rec.driving from this reply. Check the headers in the rest of the thread. (Though the blurred vision you get from the excitement of reading reports of supposed "wrong doing" of cyclists can't be helped by all those bottles you buy.) I noticed too late that there were multiple groups, it is not something that I would look at before posting and only spotted it in the sent items. I cancelled the message within moments, but apparently it still got through, yet does not show up for me. Ah well. I hope you're more observant when you're driving. It's the inability to notice small detail that causes crashes. What are all these bottles that I buy? ...poor memory too. Y'know, the ones that weigh down your weekly shopping. Did I describe my weekly shopping? or just state the weight? The weight is clue to liquid content. I doubt you buy a bag of cement every week. How do we know it isn't cider? Or meths, which would explain his poor eyesight. Even if my shopping was entirely strong spirits, no-one has yet explained how it would be viable for me to collect it using a bicycle. I do my shopping by bike. Why not? You may well be able to, I cannot. I am certain there are some sad lonely losers that cycle past the shop each day on their way from the factory to their back to back that can carry their half pint of milk home without any significant extra effort. |
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On 31/07/2013 23:12, Roger Merriman wrote:
JNugent wrote: On 31/07/2013 14:32, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , lid (Scion) wrote: The law provides a specific right to use a public highway: the right to pass and re-pass along the highway (including the pavement), and the right to make ordinary and 'reasonable use' of the highway. By needlessly obstructing faster traffic the cyclist is not making reasonable use of the road That's not what "reasonable" means Please cite the statute or regulation. As far as I'm aware obstructing is difficult one to prove, Even if it were, so what? Would that make it right? being held up maybe tedious, realisticly not illegal unless it went on for a very long time, which is unlikely on a urban road to put it mildly. "realisticly not illegal"? Have you heard yourself? |
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:55:18 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: Even if my shopping was entirely strong spirits, no-one has yet explained how it would be viable for me to collect it using a bicycle. Yes they have. |
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:55:18 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Even if my shopping was entirely strong spirits, no-one has yet explained how it would be viable for me to collect it using a bicycle. Yes they have. No they haven't, I need to be able to throw it in the boot and get home within 5 minutes, not half an hour. |
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