Critical Mass London May 2011 ride.

On May 29, 8:11*am, Doug wrote:
A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

--
Critical Mass London.
*http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"More bikes, fewer cars!".


So there you have it Doug, you post about your beloved CM to a cycling
NG, and get not one reply that agrees with CM, in fact most are
telling you that CM does nothing to aid cycling & they would not want
to be associated with it.

I wonder what that tells you, I know what it tells me.

On May 31, 6:55*am, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 31/05/2011 05:32, Doug wrote:









On May 30, 9:30 am, Tony *wrote:
On 30/05/2011 06:32, Doug wrote:

On May 29, 8:20 pm, Tony * *wrote:
On 29/05/2011 10:43, maresh wrote:

On May 29, 10:04 am, Tom * * *wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

snip

"We didn't cork PMT square very well and all the cars were mixed in,
but it caused no harm"

But Doug always reports that cars mixing with CM is dangerous, CM seem
to differ.

Can you comment on this Doug.

Easily. Just because one example of a danger caused hasn't resulted in
harm doesn't mean that other, similar examples won't. Also cars mixing
with the ride contributes to hold-ups.

An example I saw during the Friday's ride was a car positioned almost
completely across one side of the road, in its driver's attempt to
force its way into the ride and consequently he was not only a block
to traffic but was slowing the ride down..

BTW one person's opinion of CM is not necessarily representative of
CM. You should know that by now. CM consists of a mass of individuals..

So it would seem you agree that blocking the road causes hold ups.

In which case would you care to give your comment on the following from
the video.

Quotes "we're stopping the traffic for a bit of fun"
"Why are you stopping traffic? , I don't know"

How many more times???? Individuals are not representative of CM!!!!


So it would seem that you agree the cm (in part at least) are only there
to cause problems.

Nope. You can't know why individuals are there unless you ask them.
Also, they might be there for multiple reasons, not ONLY to cause
problems. It is probably true to say that virtually every procession
has individuals who might want to cause problems so why should CM be
regarded as any different?

-- .
Critical Mass London.
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

On May 31, 11:26*am, francis wrote:
On May 29, 8:11*am, Doug wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

--
Critical Mass London.
*http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"More bikes, fewer cars!".

So there you have it Doug, you post about your beloved CM to a cycling
NG, and get not one reply that agrees with CM, in fact most are
telling you that CM does nothing to aid cycling & they would not want
to be associated with it.

I wonder what that tells you, I know what it tells me.

I know what it tells me too but I won't get into that just now.
However, an event that attracts a 1000 cyclists, most of whom would
probably agree with me and not you, far outweighs a few snide comments
from mainly motorists in a supposed cycling newsgroup.

-- .
Critical Mass London.
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

On Jun 2, 8:20*am, Doug wrote:
On May 31, 6:55*am, Tony Dragon wrote:



On 31/05/2011 05:32, Doug wrote:

On May 30, 9:30 am, Tony *wrote:
On 30/05/2011 06:32, Doug wrote:

On May 29, 8:20 pm, Tony * *wrote:
On 29/05/2011 10:43, maresh wrote:

On May 29, 10:04 am, Tom * * *wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

snip

"We didn't cork PMT square very well and all the cars were mixed in,
but it caused no harm"

But Doug always reports that cars mixing with CM is dangerous, CM seem
to differ.

Can you comment on this Doug.

Easily. Just because one example of a danger caused hasn't resulted in
harm doesn't mean that other, similar examples won't. Also cars mixing
with the ride contributes to hold-ups.

An example I saw during the Friday's ride was a car positioned almost
completely across one side of the road, in its driver's attempt to
force its way into the ride and consequently he was not only a block
to traffic but was slowing the ride down..

BTW one person's opinion of CM is not necessarily representative of
CM. You should know that by now. CM consists of a mass of individuals.

So it would seem you agree that blocking the road causes hold ups.

In which case would you care to give your comment on the following from
the video.

Quotes "we're stopping the traffic for a bit of fun"
"Why are you stopping traffic? , I don't know"

How many more times???? Individuals are not representative of CM!!!!

So it would seem that you agree the cm (in part at least) are only there
to cause problems.

Nope. You can't know why individuals are there unless you ask them.
Also, they might be there for multiple reasons, not ONLY to cause
problems. It is probably true to say that virtually every procession
has individuals who might want to cause problems so why should CM be
regarded as any different?

-- .
Critical Mass London.
*http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"- Hide quoted text -

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Good to see that you agree with Tony

On Jun 2, 8:27*am, Doug wrote:
On May 31, 11:26*am, francis wrote:



On May 29, 8:11*am, Doug wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

--
Critical Mass London.
*http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"More bikes, fewer cars!".

So there you have it Doug, you post about your beloved CM to a cycling
NG, and get not one reply that agrees with CM, in fact most are
telling you that CM does nothing to aid cycling & they would not want
to be associated with it.

I wonder what that tells you, I know what it tells me.

I know what it tells me too but I won't get into that just now.
However, an event that attracts a 1000 cyclists, most of whom would
probably agree with me and not you, far outweighs a few snide comments
from mainly motorists in a supposed cycling newsgroup.

-- .
Critical Mass London.
*http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"- Hide quoted text -

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Ah, the 'they are mainly motorists' get out of jail free card.

Now I wonder how many of the cyclists in CM hold a driving licience.

Can you give evidence that most of CM agree with you, research &
figures would be OK.

On 02/06/2011 08:27, Doug wrote:

[ ... ]

... an event that attracts a 1000 cyclists, most of whom would
probably agree with me...

Do you have any good reason to libel them so?

On 29/05/2011 08:11, Doug wrote:
A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

ust a load of malcontents and hippies. I'm glad I live up north where we
just get on with stuff, and I prefer riding on my own (or with my son).

In video 1, whats that guy doing interfering with the car wheel? And all
those RLJ's are a no-no surely. On top of everything else... I gave up
on the vid shortly after, not representetive of me as a cyclist at all.

On 30/05/2011 06:32, Doug wrote:

An example I saw during the Friday's ride was a car positioned almost
completely across one side of the road, in its driver's attempt to
force its way into the ride and consequently he was not only a block
to traffic but was slowing the ride down..

So its all about speed then? I thought speed was dangerous?

On Jun 2, 10:55*am, Abo wrote:
On 29/05/2011 08:11, Doug wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

ust a load of malcontents and hippies. I'm glad I live up north where we
just get on with stuff, and I prefer riding on my own (or with my son).

In video 1, whats that guy doing interfering with the car wheel? And all
those RLJ's are a no-no surely. On top of everything else... I gave up
on the vid shortly after, not representetive of me as a cyclist at all.

Or indeed not representive of most cyclists.
But Doug tells us that they all represent different things, then when
it's pointed out that cyclists on this NG do not agree with cm, he
dissmisses then a really motorists.

Doug is just a blinkered old fool, who is the only 'pure cyclist' in
the world.

He must ride many times the milage of the average cyclist to be
'rammed' so many times.
Either that or he is pretty useless as a road user.

On 02/06/2011 08:20, Doug wrote:
On May 31, 6:55 am, Tony wrote:
On 31/05/2011 05:32, Doug wrote:









On May 30, 9:30 am, Tony wrote:
On 30/05/2011 06:32, Doug wrote:

On May 29, 8:20 pm, Tony wrote:
On 29/05/2011 10:43, maresh wrote:

On May 29, 10:04 am, Tom wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

A most excellent ride.

Reports here...

http://london.indymedia.org/articles/9160

and here...

http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/main.html

snip

"We didn't cork PMT square very well and all the cars were mixed in,
but it caused no harm"

But Doug always reports that cars mixing with CM is dangerous, CM seem
to differ.

Can you comment on this Doug.

Easily. Just because one example of a danger caused hasn't resulted in
harm doesn't mean that other, similar examples won't. Also cars mixing
with the ride contributes to hold-ups.

An example I saw during the Friday's ride was a car positioned almost
completely across one side of the road, in its driver's attempt to
force its way into the ride and consequently he was not only a block
to traffic but was slowing the ride down..

BTW one person's opinion of CM is not necessarily representative of
CM. You should know that by now. CM consists of a mass of individuals.

So it would seem you agree that blocking the road causes hold ups.

In which case would you care to give your comment on the following from
the video.

Quotes "we're stopping the traffic for a bit of fun"
"Why are you stopping traffic? , I don't know"

How many more times???? Individuals are not representative of CM!!!!


So it would seem that you agree the cm (in part at least) are only there
to cause problems.

Nope. You can't know why individuals are there unless you ask them.
Also, they might be there for multiple reasons, not ONLY to cause
problems. It is probably true to say that virtually every procession
has individuals who might want to cause problems so why should CM be
regarded as any different?

-- .
Critical Mass London.
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

Well you posted a link to a video, that showed a group of trouble makers.
Riding on the wrong side of the street,
Riding on pavements
Obstructing the highway
Obstructing a pedestrian crossing.
Interfering with a motor vehicle.
Ignoring red lights
Stopping pedestrians using crossings
Riding without lights

As you have not spoken against this behaviour then it would seem that
you agree with it, but as you have admitted to being a serial law
breaker who agrees with blackmail, violence, & bombing, this comes as no
surprise.