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Drivers with 12 or more points still on the road
ALL ROAD USERS BEWARE!
There are more than 2,800 drivers with 12 or more points on their licence still permitted to drive in London, according to figures from the DVLA. The figures also show there is one person with a shocking 30 points, with current entitlement to drive. Research has identified a link between road traffic offences and criminal behaviour. One study highlighted a clear proportional increase in collision fault among those with offence history. Jenny Jones AM said: “The scale of this problem is quite frightening. These 2,800 drivers are getting away with reckless driving. They’ve been offending and therefore building up points on their licence, but still being able to drive. Of course there are instances where magistrates need to use their discretion, but the police need to know its actually worthwhile catching these criminals. Research has also shown drivers with points on their licence are more likely to have previous convictions and be involved in a collision. These drivers are breaking the rules and getting away with it. ” End notes 1. Figures on points obtained from an FOI request to the DVLA Current Points Number of drivers 12 1596 15 225 20 23 25 1 30 1 2. According to a government website, if a driver builds up 12 or more points within a period of 3 years, they are liable to lose their licence and be disqualified under the ‘totting up’ system. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ons/DG_4022550 3. A study by Loughborough University showed a link between offences and criminality. http://www.lboro.ac.uk/media/wwwlbor...es-summary.pdf |
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On 03/03/2012 08:48, Bertie Wooster wrote:
ALL ROAD USERS BEWARE! There are more than 2,800 drivers with 12 or more points on their licence still permitted to drive in London, Or 0.0085 % of UK motorists. OMG. Shock ****ing horror. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
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On 03/03/2012 08:48, Bertie Wooster wrote:
Research has identified a link between road traffic offences and criminal behaviour. Imprison all cyclists immediately as a pre-emptive measure, then. They are the most prolific perpetrators of road traffic offences, after all. |
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On 03/03/2012 08:48, Bertie Wooster wrote:
ALL ROAD USERS BEWARE! There are more than 2,800 drivers with 12 or more points on their licence still permitted to drive in London, according to figures from the DVLA. The figures also show there is one person with a shocking 30 points, with current entitlement to drive. Research has identified a link between road traffic offences and criminal behaviour. One study highlighted a clear proportional increase in collision fault among those with offence history. Jenny Jones AM [the well-known nutter, who is apparently very easily "frightened"] said: “The scale of this problem is quite frightening. Really? I should be frightened because there's a bloke half a mile away who got three points for each bald tyre, all of which have now been replaced with new ones? Why? What's "frightening" about ink on paper? These 2,800 drivers are getting away with reckless driving. They’ve been offending and therefore building up points on their licence, but still being able to drive. Of course there are instances where magistrates need to use their discretion, but the police need to know its actually worthwhile catching these criminals. Many ordinary people are "caught" everyday by cameras. The police aren't involved except tangentially and bureaucratically. No-one sensible takes Mad Jenny seriously. |
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Bertie Wooster wrote: Research has identified a link between road traffic offences and criminal behaviour. One study highlighted a clear proportional increase in collision fault among those with offence history. Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, what point are you making? -- *I didn't drive my husband crazy -- I flew him there -- it was faster Dave Plowman London SW 12 |
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On 03/03/12 11:58, Dave Plowman wrote:
Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, Incorrect. Assertion /= fact. |
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On 03/03/2012 14:15, Adam Lea wrote:
On 03/03/12 11:58, Dave Plowman wrote: Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, Incorrect. Assertion /= fact. It is observable empirically. No-one and no body with credibility and gravitas could possibly assert that cyclists, as a class, are anything but the least observant group when it comes to road traffic law. It matters not that individually, they don't break the law when on foot or behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. Put someone on a bike and the odds are that they immediately turn into a self-centred scofflaw chav. Furthermore, they refuse to recognise their own status and will often seek to blame others for their own misdeeds. |
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Adam Lea wrote: Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, Incorrect. Assertion /= fact. I'm obviously just speaking for the ones I see. Those that don't go through red traffic lights or ride on the pavement etc are so rare they can safely be ignored, percentage wise. But of course cyclists have their own definition of traffic offences. -- *Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch. Dave Plowman London SW 12 |
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Dave Plowman wrote:
In article , Adam Lea wrote: Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, Incorrect. Assertion /= fact. I'm obviously just speaking for the ones I see. Those that don't go through red traffic lights or ride on the pavement etc are so rare they can safely be ignored, percentage wise. But of course cyclists have their own definition of traffic offences. and they would say it is just anecdotal |
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On 03/03/2012 14:24, JNugent wrote:
On 03/03/2012 14:15, Adam Lea wrote: On 03/03/12 11:58, Dave Plowman wrote: Given pretty well every cyclist commits traffic offences many times a day, Incorrect. Assertion /= fact. It is observable empirically. Indeed. Today at 3:48 pm in Greenhithe, Kent I saw a cyclist stop at a red light & wait till it changed. "When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news". Attributed to New York Sun editor John B. Bogart (1848–1921): -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
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