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My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? -- =============================================== Thanks, Steve "short cuts make for long delays" Use ROT13 for my email: |
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Kaiser Sose writes:
Guys, My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? I think the received wisdom is that at 16 stone you'll never be able to climb like the light guys. ISTR reading in his book that in his post-cancer, i.e. TdF winning, days Lance kept his weight at about 158 lbs - or a little over 11 stone. He was heavier before the cancer - about 175lbs or 12.5 stone. (This is from memory - I could be a little out, but not by much I think.) Even so that's a long way off 16 stone. |
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Agreed Paul. However, couldn't it be argued that I will have a greater
intrinsic strength that should counter my greater weight? Granted that uper body muscle mass isn't contributing a lot to climbing a hill. There must come a point where stronger legs and the increased msucle mass that comes with it is too expensive on the aerobic system and the law of diminishing returns comes into play? I am no Doctor but this seems to be my expereince. Hence my question: anyoen really been a weight training dude like me and has come down in body weight? I think maybe I am an oddity in wanting to lose muscle mass perhaps !! Steve "Paul Rudin" wrote in message ... Kaiser Sose writes: Guys, My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? I think the received wisdom is that at 16 stone you'll never be able to climb like the light guys. ISTR reading in his book that in his post-cancer, i.e. TdF winning, days Lance kept his weight at about 158 lbs - or a little over 11 stone. He was heavier before the cancer - about 175lbs or 12.5 stone. (This is from memory - I could be a little out, but not by much I think.) Even so that's a long way off 16 stone. |
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"Kaiser Sose" wrote in message ... Guys, My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? If your bench really is the same as your squat then something is very wrong. It sounds like your legs are weak. What is your workout schedule like? Adam |
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Kaiser Sose wrote:
Agreed Paul. However, couldn't it be argued that I will have a greater intrinsic strength that should counter my greater weight? Granted that uper body muscle mass isn't contributing a lot to climbing a hill. There must come a point where stronger legs and the increased msucle mass that comes with it is too expensive on the aerobic system and the law of diminishing returns comes into play? I am no Doctor but this seems to be my expereince. Leg strength is nowhere near as important as aerobic efficiency except on very short climbs. Before transforming your body to make yourself into a climber you might try the track and see if the explosive short distance events suit you better. -- Dave... |
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Kaiser Sose wrote: Guys, My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? -- =============================================== Thanks, Steve "short cuts make for long delays" Use ROT13 for my email: That's alot of muscle to be hauling up hills and the wrong sort of muscle group for hill climbs (unless they're short ones). All that fast-twitch muscle is great for squating 260lbs for 10X3 reps (I'm guessing here) and for sprinting about half a mile, but of little use in climbing. I've a few friends your size who ride and compete, but they're riding on the track at the velodrome and putting in 12 second 200m sprints. If you're aleady a strong rider and a good sprinter you should try the track, your additional strength over the average cyclist will be an advantage. If you want to keep up with your skinny mates on the climbs you're going to have to loose some of that muscle or change your riding strategy. I have a riding buddy who is about 40 pounds lighter than me, we're both around the same age, height and fitness levels, but he can drop me on longer climbs everytime. I have the strength and power to keep up with him for a while, but as the climb progesses the extra effort I need to put in becomes too much and I have to drop to a lower gear. So our riding strategy when we ride together is not to try and ride togther, we both ride to our strengths, but attempting to arrive at planned rest stops or ride end at the same time. Over a 40 mile course we usually finish within 10 mins of each other. laters, Marz |
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"Kaiser Sose" wrote in message ... Guys, My two sporting interests are weight training and cycling - mutually strange I know since muscle weight is so heavy. I can bench 130kg and squat the same. I weigh 15.5 -16 stone (not a fatty though) and have a tendency to get dropped on climbs. I can sprint quite well though. It's a bit of a conundrum since there are some quite big riders about - Boonen, Padrnos, even Indurain was a big lad. Lance and Ullrich are no lightweights either. Anyone here have the same problem? Anyone had to drop a lot of muscle mass to become a better rider? Anyone didn't want to lose too much muscle and had to fight with this problem? (the "fear of smallness" as Arnold Swarzenegger once put it). Anyone point me to some reading? -- =============================================== Thanks, Steve "short cuts make for long delays" Use ROT13 for my email: Steve I'd agree with Adam, if you bench & squat the same Kg, then I'd say there's something way out of kilter. I can't bench 100kg but I can squat 200kg without fear. Generally, you should squat way more unless you are doing a serious Ahnold effoer on you chest. You sound a beefy guy, so am I, but even then I'd suggest concentrating on getting the leg fitness up, using higher reps. Course you can sprint, as you have sprinter's legs! Your body mass is heavy - how tall are you? |
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