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Old August 12th 04, 05:19 PM
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Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?

-Mike
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Old August 12th 04, 05:47 PM
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:19:05 GMT, none wrote:
Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?


No, people would wear them much more often. Especially to parties.
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Rick Onanian
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Old August 12th 04, 06:23 PM
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:19:05 GMT, none
wrote:

Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?

-Mike


Dear Mike,

Coating things with hard grit like diamond dust turns them
into sandpaper, the opposite of the smooth surface that you
want.

Carl Fogel
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Old August 12th 04, 07:34 PM
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none wrote:

Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond?


You could try to find a carbon chainwheel, and ride it *really*
hard...

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jc

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Old August 12th 04, 09:25 PM
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none writes:

Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?


Actually, anodized aluminum is 7x harder than regular unanodized
aluminum, so a thick layer of aluminum oxide is serving the same
purpose as these other hard coatings that you are asking about.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA
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Old August 12th 04, 09:31 PM
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"none" wroteclip)sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear
on these components?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How old are you? Does your background include Hi-fi and vinyl records?


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Old August 12th 04, 10:31 PM
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Default Why no sapphire / diamond chainwheels, cogs, or chains?

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:19:05 GMT, none wrote:

Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?

-Mike


Er, economics? It's cheaper to keep replacing drivetrain components
than to make them last longer. On the other hand, TiN (Titanium
Nitride) coating is not too expensive, especially on a titanium
substrate, so it's slightly surprising that Ti sprockets as seen on
Record and DuraAce cassettes aren't that nice shiny gold colour.


Kinky Cowboy*

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Old August 13th 04, 12:14 AM
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none wrote in message news:ZLMSc.6682$BS3.6018@trndny04...
Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond? Wouldn't this help to decrease wear on
these components?

-Mike


Some industrial equipment is already made with a diamond-like carbon
coating on the wear surfaces, as an alternative to carburised or
nitrided case-hardening. For example, some air compressors supplying
oil-free air use this technology.

Possibly some applications of chain drive might (or one day will) use
chains hardened like this. But I doubt that it will catch on for
bicycles designed to be status symbols. There is no point in
equipping a bicycle with high tech gear that is not immediately
recognisable as expensive. Hmmm ... unless ... is there some way of
making the chain brightly coloured?
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Old August 13th 04, 03:39 AM
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Default Why no sapphire / diamond chainwheels, cogs, or chains?

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:26 GMT, Jeremy Collins
wrote:

none wrote:

Why aren't there any bicycle chainwheels or chain side plates / rivets
coated with sapphire or diamond?


You could try to find a carbon chainwheel, and ride it *really*
hard...


http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

"CARBON FIBRE CHAIN RINGS

The properties of carbon fibre are ideal for track, time trial and
triathlon machines, there is no lighter chain ring available -
remember carbon fibre is half the weight of aluminium. We advise that
these chainrings are used only in a single ring set up. When used in a
multi ring set up these rings can be damaged by hard and aggressive
front gear changing, however, customers have had 1000's miles with
careful changing or as a single ring set up."

etc.

Would be nice to try a set!
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Old August 13th 04, 03:50 AM
Tom Sherman
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dianne_1234 wrote:

...
The properties of carbon fibre are ideal for track, time trial and
triathlon machines, there is no lighter chain ring available -
remember carbon fibre is half the weight of aluminium....


They should find an advertising copywriter who knows the difference
between weight and density.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

 




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