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OP has asked reasonable question about chain differences. ‘Data’ could include playing, corrosion resistance, tolerances, expected durability, weight, etc.
Lighter weight, for cyclists, would be an obvious feature. An after-market chain I bought made exactly that claim, and the plates were indeed carved out. De MostiX PDX |
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On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 9:22:33 AM UTC+2, incredulous wrote:
OP has asked reasonable question about chain differences. ‘Data’ could include playing, corrosion resistance, tolerances, expected durability, weight, etc. Lighter weight, for cyclists, would be an obvious feature. An after-market chain I bought made exactly that claim, and the plates were indeed carved out. De MostiX PDX True but on the other hand why ask this question because except for differences everybody can see (plating, punched holes, hollow pins) all other properties are a black box for most of us (hardness, tolerances durability). Especially for dirt cheap 9 speed chain even the price difference of the'expensive'ones doesn't justify more than a minute of thought IMO. My advice, if cost is an issue for somebody, buy the cheapest one. If the life time is short than you got what you paid for, if is the same as for the more expensive one than you are lucky. You cant loose.' Lou, to much time spent on chains and lubing chains. |
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John B. wrote:
I Don't understand why you keep asking for information that is unnecessary. If it isn't on the box, either there is no difference, or the manufacturer has made a poor job. Only that doesn't sound like Shimano given what we know how they are with documenting their products! One way of finding out if it is stated on the box, is to write down *everything* and then compare. If this doesn't reveal the difference, the next step would be to get both chains, open the boxes, and compare them visually as well as with tools. If one can find a difference, one can write to Shimano an tell them to put it on the box. If one cannot find it, one can write and ask. If they can't find it either, one can say they should put on the boxes that the chain is functionally identical to another model - or better yet, drop the two distinctions altogether and merge the products into one. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:53:12 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: I Don't understand why you keep asking for information that is unnecessary. If it isn't on the box, either there is no difference, or the manufacturer has made a poor job. Only that doesn't sound like Shimano given what we know how they are with documenting their products! One way of finding out if it is stated on the box, is to write down *everything* and then compare. If this doesn't reveal the difference, the next step would be to get both chains, open the boxes, and compare them visually as well as with tools. If one can find a difference, one can write to Shimano an tell them to put it on the box. If one cannot find it, one can write and ask. If they can't find it either, one can say they should put on the boxes that the chain is functionally identical to another model - or better yet, drop the two distinctions altogether and merge the products into one. You seem to be missing the crux of the problem. Shimano has been in business since 1921 and has never sold me, at least, anything that didn't fit or didn't work. Why now, after of 97 years should I write Shimano to demand that they print more data on the box that the chain comes in? Who cares. I wanted a 9 speed chain, they sold me a 9 speed chain, and the 9 speed chain works on a 9 speed bicycle. What more could anyone ever want?. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 4/28/2018 9:34 PM, John B. wrote:
Shimano has been in business since 1921 and has never sold me, at least, anything that didn't fit or didn't work. They sold me an aerodynamic water bottle back in the 1980s. I was deeply disappointed. It didn't seem to make me any faster at all. Not that I've lost much sleep over that... -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 23:13:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 4/28/2018 9:34 PM, John B. wrote: Shimano has been in business since 1921 and has never sold me, at least, anything that didn't fit or didn't work. They sold me an aerodynamic water bottle back in the 1980s. I was deeply disappointed. It didn't seem to make me any faster at all. Not that I've lost much sleep over that... That's the trouble with all these go-fast attachments. You buy them and install them and goodness, you don't go any faster. And of course... it's their fault. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 4/28/2018 10:13 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/28/2018 9:34 PM, John B. wrote: Shimano has been in business since 1921 and has never sold me, at least, anything that didn't fit or didn't work. They sold me an aerodynamic water bottle back in the 1980s. I was deeply disappointed. It didn't seem to make me any faster at all. Not that I've lost much sleep over that... You're not doing it right: http://www.chutingstar.com/media/cat...o/gofast_4.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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