Rans V2 Formula?

MLB wrote in message .4.25...
Thought someone here said it (V²) was 7lbs lighter than the steel version?

I said that and I was wrong. It's about 5 or 6lbs. lighter which is
still significaant when you consider hills, etc. My dealer has a 2003
V2 cromo version and we put it on the scales and it weighted in at 32.
The V2 formula aluminum version is said to weigh an honest 26. Much
of this weight reduction is from parts not just frame. I think the
frame itself is only 1.5 to 2 lbs. lighter.
Marci

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MLB wrote in message
7.4.25...
Thought someone here said it (V²) was 7lbs lighter than the steel version?

I said that and I was wrong. It's about 5 or 6lbs. lighter which is
still significaant when you consider hills, etc. My dealer has a 2003
V2 cromo version and we put it on the scales and it weighted in at 32.
The V2 formula aluminum version is said to weigh an honest 26. Much
of this weight reduction is from parts not just frame. I think the
frame itself is only 1.5 to 2 lbs. lighter.


Ya gotta love those "weights" that manufacturers publish for their bikes. RANS
gives the weight of the standard V2 at 31 lbs, yet Marcie's dealer found it to
weigh 32. RANS also gives the weight of the Formula at 26.8 lbs. Makes me
wonder just what that will end up weighing?

Of course the cromo V2 above might have been rigged on the LBS floor with pedals
and kickstand, which could explain the difference. On the RANS web site they
state that the new seat pan and cushion save 1.5 lbs, which would leave just 2.7
lbs difference for the lighter wheels, components, and frame of the Formula.

So we have to get Marcie to promise to weigh her new Formula first thing before
inflating the tires or mounting anything on it. ;-)

Steve Christensen

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MLB wrote in message
7.4.25...
Thought someone here said it (V²) was 7lbs lighter than the steel version?

I said that and I was wrong. It's about 5 or 6lbs. lighter which is
still significaant when you consider hills, etc. My dealer has a 2003
V2 cromo version and we put it on the scales and it weighted in at 32.
The V2 formula aluminum version is said to weigh an honest 26. Much
of this weight reduction is from parts not just frame. I think the
frame itself is only 1.5 to 2 lbs. lighter.


Ya gotta love those "weights" that manufacturers publish for their bikes. RANS
gives the weight of the standard V2 at 31 lbs, yet Marcie's dealer found it to
weigh 32. RANS also gives the weight of the Formula at 26.8 lbs. Makes me
wonder just what that will end up weighing?

Of course the cromo V2 above might have been rigged on the LBS floor with pedals
and kickstand, which could explain the difference. On the RANS web site they
state that the new seat pan and cushion save 1.5 lbs, which would leave just 2.7
lbs difference for the lighter wheels, components, and frame of the Formula.

So we have to get Marcie to promise to weigh her new Formula first thing before
inflating the tires or mounting anything on it. ;-)

Steve Christensen

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MLB wrote in message .4.25...
Thought someone here said it (V²) was 7lbs lighter than the steel version?

I said that and I was wrong. It's about 5 or 6lbs. lighter which is
still significaant when you consider hills, etc. My dealer has a 2003
V2 cromo version and we put it on the scales and it weighted in at 32.
The V2 formula aluminum version is said to weigh an honest 26. Much
of this weight reduction is from parts not just frame. I think the
frame itself is only 1.5 to 2 lbs. lighter.
Marci

An honest 26 lbs seems pretty optimistic....Rans lists the V2 Formula
as 28.5 lbs and I have found there information to also be a bit
optimistic. None the less it looks to be a great bike and I am sure
that you will enjoy it at whatever weight it comes in at.

Pat Mc

I know they did publish those higher weights, 28.5 in their earlier
brochures but according to several high up people at Rans, the weight
is now an honest 26.8 due to some changes in the seat and the
components. I don't think the weight is so hard to swallow given that
an easy racers gold rush can weight in that same neighborhood with all
the high end parts. My custom tailwind which is now a 26/20 wheel
combo( and is all ultegra groupo with HED extra light wheels) weights
an honest 29 lbs. and that is with the old heavy seat and the over
constructed heavly cromo frame. Expensive components can really shave
off weight. The Velocity has the Chris king headset and the light
wheels which saw a ton of weight not to mention the light seat.
marci
Marci

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MLB wrote in message .4.25...
Thought someone here said it (V²) was 7lbs lighter than the steel version?

I said that and I was wrong. It's about 5 or 6lbs. lighter which is
still significaant when you consider hills, etc. My dealer has a 2003
V2 cromo version and we put it on the scales and it weighted in at 32.
The V2 formula aluminum version is said to weigh an honest 26. Much
of this weight reduction is from parts not just frame. I think the
frame itself is only 1.5 to 2 lbs. lighter.
Marci

An honest 26 lbs seems pretty optimistic....Rans lists the V2 Formula
as 28.5 lbs and I have found there information to also be a bit
optimistic. None the less it looks to be a great bike and I am sure
that you will enjoy it at whatever weight it comes in at.

Pat Mc

I know they did publish those higher weights, 28.5 in their earlier
brochures but according to several high up people at Rans, the weight
is now an honest 26.8 due to some changes in the seat and the
components. I don't think the weight is so hard to swallow given that
an easy racers gold rush can weight in that same neighborhood with all
the high end parts. My custom tailwind which is now a 26/20 wheel
combo( and is all ultegra groupo with HED extra light wheels) weights
an honest 29 lbs. and that is with the old heavy seat and the over
constructed heavly cromo frame. Expensive components can really shave
off weight. The Velocity has the Chris king headset and the light
wheels which saw a ton of weight not to mention the light seat.
marci
Marci

I won't reveal the details Marci, but... i'm betting the weight won't
ultimately be THE issue. Simply put, I like the Formula, but hate the
ride. It's brutal.



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I won't reveal the details Marci, but... i'm betting the weight won't
ultimately be THE issue. Simply put, I like the Formula, but hate the
ride. It's brutal.



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Marci --

None of my biz ...but ... although I respect that a great many people like
the V2 ... it's not for me. I rode a V2 for (admittedly only) a couple of
hours in Atlanta GA right after the first production bikes got to dealers.
I hated it. I found it heavy, sluggish, with tiller effect ... and it was
a struggle (for me at least) to get started uphill. And Atlanta is all up
hill. ;-))

Gator Bob Siegel

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I won't reveal the details Marci, but... i'm betting the weight won't
ultimately be THE issue. Simply put, I like the Formula, but hate the
ride. It's brutal.



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Marci --

None of my biz ...but ... although I respect that a great many people like
the V2 ... it's not for me. I rode a V2 for (admittedly only) a couple of
hours in Atlanta GA right after the first production bikes got to dealers.
I hated it. I found it heavy, sluggish, with tiller effect ... and it was
a struggle (for me at least) to get started uphill. And Atlanta is all up
hill. ;-))

Gator Bob Siegel

"PaPa" wrote in message
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I won't reveal the details Marci, but... i'm betting the weight won't
ultimately be THE issue. Simply put, I like the Formula, but hate the
ride. It's brutal.



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I won't reveal the details Marci, but... i'm betting the weight won't
ultimately be THE issue. Simply put, I like the Formula, but hate the
ride. It's brutal.



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I wondered about that. The steel V² was the stiffest bent I've been on.
Wondered how it could be stiffer and not ride like a tank.