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everybody is armed and dangerous
One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
dangerous. Nowadays the good-ol'-fashioned finger is not enough. Some carry a gun, and some simply use their vehicles as the weapon. What's a cyclist to do in such a jungle? I'm going to write a book, "Monkey survival skills for the cyclist." First advice... http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...49274811492050 Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways .... For whatever reason, one's genitalia grow exponentially while moving at 40 mph in a steel and aluminum cage. Being at the helm of a 2-ton machine makes people feel powerful, I would assume, leading to extreme reactions from otherwise rational people. Unfortunately, those extreme reactions are becoming more deadly. As reported by the San Francisco Chronicle, a man driving on Interstate Highway 280 was shot from a passing car. The man who died, Luis Solari, died in front of his kids in the car. His offense: He cut someone off. The worst part is that this wasn't the first on Bay Area freeways this month. A woman was shot and killed April 3 on Interstate Highway 80 near Pinole, and a man was shot along the same stretch of freeway April 1. An arrest has been made in the former incident. A gun is unnecessary, and says a lot about violence in our society. Few problems, especially ones relating to cars, have ever been solved by use of a gun. Words, even hand gestures, are better answers to the whole problem. No one gets hurt with any of those. Even fisticuffs are better. Bruises go away over time. But expressing one's disgust at other people's driving by shooting a gun at them is revealing because it's solving the problem of anger with violence. Those who could angrily waive guns at you from passing automobiles and potentially use them, may be showing their small children in the back seats how not to act. Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the finger, not a bullet in the chest. http://media.www.thespartandaily.com...-3321714.shtml |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
ComandanteBanana wrote:
One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and dangerous. Nowadays the good-ol'-fashioned finger is not enough. Some carry a gun, and some simply use their vehicles as the weapon. What's a cyclist to do in such a jungle? I'm going to write a book, "Monkey survival skills for the cyclist." First advice... http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...49274811492050 Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways ... For whatever reason, one's genitalia grow exponentially while moving at 40 mph in a steel and aluminum cage. Being at the helm of a 2-ton machine makes people feel powerful, I would assume, leading to extreme reactions from otherwise rational people. Unfortunately, those extreme reactions are becoming more deadly. As reported by the San Francisco Chronicle, a man driving on Interstate Highway 280 was shot from a passing car. The man who died, Luis Solari, died in front of his kids in the car. His offense: He cut someone off. The worst part is that this wasn't the first on Bay Area freeways this month. A woman was shot and killed April 3 on Interstate Highway 80 near Pinole, and a man was shot along the same stretch of freeway April 1. An arrest has been made in the former incident. A gun is unnecessary, and says a lot about violence in our society. Few problems, especially ones relating to cars, have ever been solved by use of a gun. Words, even hand gestures, are better answers to the whole problem. No one gets hurt with any of those. Even fisticuffs are better. Bruises go away over time. But expressing one's disgust at other people's driving by shooting a gun at them is revealing because it's solving the problem of anger with violence. Those who could angrily waive guns at you from passing automobiles and potentially use them, may be showing their small children in the back seats how not to act. Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the finger, not a bullet in the chest. http://media.www.thespartandaily.com...-3321714.shtml the land of the free people got rights to carry guns if they are gunna carry , they are gunna use them ... simple as that ... |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote: Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways Say...isnt the Bay Area a hotbed of Liberalism? So why are they so much more violent than everyone else? Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
"Myal" wrote in message ... [...] the land of the free people got rights to carry guns if they are gunna carry , they are gunna use them ... simple as that ... These type of crimes (unprovoked shootings) are mostly committed by young men with more testosterone than brains. The solution is simple - a minimum of 20 years in prison for shooting a gun in public. By the time they get out of prison, they will have lost some of their testosterone. If you shoot and kill someone, than you forfeit your own life. Now you know why I am Great and you aren't. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch reported Elvis on Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:36:16 -0700 in misc.survivalism : On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote: Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways Say...isnt the Bay Area a hotbed of Liberalism? So why are they so much more violent than everyone else? Maybe they consider themselves each to be The Higher Power, and must therefore smite the heathen on their own. Religious fanatics seem to be that way, just ask the Secularists. Like Eddy. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes." |
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Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks
On Apr 14, 6:12*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote: Just Saturday morning I was almost attacked for doing the right thing on the Causeway to Hell (the name is due to the many incidents I had there, this being the third one that day). The guy blew the horn as I was riding the bike nicely, and I gave him the finger. I shouldn't have, but he didn't have to harass me with the horn. He stopped, insulted me, wanted to fight me, and spit at me before taking off. It just happens that I'm supposed to walk the bike on the sidewalk across its bridges! No more biking on that road, or any other road shared with traffic. Predators like this will always be encouraged to mistreat cyclists due to the lack of respect given to us. No more than blacks that were forced to ride in the back of buses... NOTE: For the reasons given above, I do NOT recommend that you give the finger to anyone. Not because they don't deserve it, but because the lion is waiting for any excuse to eat the monkey. Instead, I do recommend you give them the finger in a nice civilized way. Something like "You can eat my banana" on the back of the T-shirt will still give them the finger, but with vaseline, so to speak. That was my best route out... I've found instead an alley that takes me into town. That's where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and sidewalks. WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION? http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution BIKE FOR PEACEhttp://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace An irate driver ran over a bicyclist in southern Illinois in the mid-90's. |
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everybody is armed and dangerous
On Apr 21, 12:36*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote: Road rage runs rampant on Bay Area highways Say...isnt the Bay Area a hotbed of Liberalism? So why are they so much more violent than everyone else? I'm afraid some pro-gun conservatives have been sneaking in from the red states... Hey, wait a minute, California is kind of a red state. But they got a smart Republican. The political jungle is very complex, I tell you. |
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the revolution will come on three wheels
On Apr 21, 3:12*am, Steve Ball wrote:
Tom Keats: In article , (Don Klipstein) writes: * The main offense of cyclists against cars is running red lights while cars that have green lights have expectations of right-of-way. Bull****! *Riders do /not/ suicidally barge into cross traffic. *No rational person does. He didn't say they did. Just that they stop bikes run far more red lights than cars generally do. * Second to that, is cyclists stopping less for stop signs than cars do. Bull****! *Obligatory stopping ain't a patch on yielding and observing whether it's safe to go or not. *Drivers might stop or slow down a little, and then go, without looking at what they're getting into. *We riders know that we can get totally ****ed up by riding into what we're not looking at. I'm both a cyclist and a motorist. I always stop at stop signs and red lights in the car. It's easy. Cyclists have to uncleat, get out of the saddle, put a foot down, and then get the hard-earned momentum back, and tend to stop less often. I know, I ride in a bunch that runs more red lights/stop signs in an hour than I do in the car in a year. That's why I think the revolution will come on three wheels instead of two. I've both bikes and now the new trike, but only the latter allows me to give the right of way to a car while comfortably seated. With the three internal gears, I just shift down to 1st... and there I go. Actually, I consider myself a car! (but not a bully) |
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BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
On Apr 21, 12:25 am, Bob wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and dangerous. Hyperbole must be part of the Troll's Rules of Conduct. If "everybody is armed and dangerous" every day should be one gigantic bloodbath with hundreds of thousands killed or maimed yet that isn't the case. There are such a bad combination: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR Yep, bad laws --or lack of good laws-- start the cycle of violence. Case in point is the lack of legislation or enforcement about passing laws. Here's what's going on in my particular city that shouldn't be much different from your average American city... Miami is such a sprawling area. I don’t see how, even in the best possible circumstances, how the ENTIRE city could be bike-friendly. Politicians and officers don’t care about bikes, one way or the other. There ain’t much money in it. And basically you are at the good will of drivers, who often feel cyclists are, at best, a nuisance. But ALL IS NEEDED IS THE RIGHT LAWS, one that let’s you pass on the left when in a hurry, and go slow on the right --as slow as 20mph if we want to accomodate scooters and bikes. That’s THE WAY THEY DO IT IN CIVILIZED COUNTRIES, not in the Banana Republics… Road Rage Bill Clears Committee A bill aimed at curbing road rage made it through its first Senate committee, though similar legislation has stalled in recent years. The legislation would attempt to reduce road rage by requiring drivers to move out of the farthest lane left when being overtaken by faster vehicles. It also would improve the flow of traffic, said the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Mike Bennett, R-Bradenton. One problem with the bill is that a person driving the legal speed limit could be ticketed for not pulling over for someone who is exceeding it, said Sen. Alex Villalobos, R-Miami, who voted against the bill. The bill would also cause problems during rush hour because there’s always someone in the left lane wanting to pass the car in front of him, he said. The Senate Committee on Transportation approved the bill (SB 658) with a vote of 4-3. A similar House bill (HB 1177) passed its first committee last week. The bill has several more stops before making it to the floor of either chamber. http://www.theledger.com/article/200...803260577/1374 Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the finger, not a bullet in the chest. The inference to be drawn from this would seem to be that you've recently been shot for cutting someone off in traffic. In that case, best wishes for a speedy recovery- and stop cutting people off. Regards, Bob Hunt I simply quoted that article, but I share his concern. Settling something with a finger or a gun are two different things. The result of the equation above is that people are exposed to a real threat, particularly if they assert their right with a finger. And while few people actually get shot, the rest of the population live in fear. Particularly the cyclists. And we would have to start with changing the laws of the republic... |
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no need to cry over the soccer moms
The only hope the cyclists got is that things get bad enough in the
international jungle. Yep, what may be bad news for the Stupid Unnecessary Vehicles, may be good news for the smart and efficient cyclits... Oil prices spike to record above $117 Monday April 21, 9:53 am ET Oil prices climb to record above $117 a barrel after Mideast attack on Japanese oil tanker Oil prices spiked to a record above $117 a barrel on Monday after a Japanese oil tanker was attacked off the east coast of Yemen. The 150,000-ton tanker Takayama was attacked about 270 miles off the Yemen coast in the Gulf of Aden while it was heading for Saudi Arabia, its Japanese operator, Nippon Yusen K.K., said in a statement posted on its Web site. *** But no need to cry over the soccer moms. They can use something like this... (cute, no?) http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN |
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