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Old September 30th 18, 07:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:48:55 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/30/2018 09:06 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

I don't understand why they're still using steel on any vehicle, it's
ridiculous.


https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...and-ford-f-150

They are waiting to see how Ford makes out. One major difference is the
F150 and SUVs based on the chassis still use a conventional steel frame.
It doesn't matter what the body is made of.

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/1...-pickup-truck/


Over here in nanny state Europe, those wouldn't be allowed on the road as they aren't nice to pedestrians when the ****wits walk in front of you.
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Old September 30th 18, 08:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/30/2018 09:10 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Why do you have such complicated terms for your coins? Ours are just
called by their value - 20p, 50p, etc.


Said the person with bobs, tanners, quids, sovs, tuppence, nuggets, and
beer tokens...


And I don't think we've had coins made of anything anywhere near the
coin's value for a long time. Although they did recently (without
announcing it) change the 10p coin to one that was slightly
thinner/thicker (I forget which) and a different metal to save money.
This played havoc with machines that take them.


There is a whole market for 'junk silver' in the US. Those are pre-1965
coins with no particular numismatic value that did have silver in their
composition. The theory is if the **** hits the fan they will have
exchange value as opposed to the post '65 coins that are intrinsically
worthless.


It particularly annoys me as I have a coin counter that sorts the coins
and creates a "bank bag" (as in a particular amount - 20 x £1 etc that
the bank likes paid in at once) of coins in each tube, simply by the
total thickness of the pile. With the new 10ps it gets it wrong each
time, so I just grumble at the bank teller when she says I've given her
the wrong amount. I can adjust it for the new coins, but a the moment
we have some of each.


About 10 years ago I sorted coins and put them into coin wrappers. When
I took them to the bank I stood their while the teller dumped them out
of the wrappers and took the pile to the back room to sort.

The supermarket has a coin sorter that I use when I accumulate a couple
of buckets of coins. There is a charge if you want cash back but none if
you get a gift card. There are several varieties of gift cards, but I go
with Amazon. For that you don't get a physical card, just a code number
that adds the balance to your Amazon account. The sorter works quite
well and only spits out Canadian coins. Sometimes it will reject a US
coin but generally takes it if you run it through again.




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Old September 30th 18, 08:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 03:13:46 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:48 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Finally, if you live in an RV you get to keep it. And modify it. Lot
rent is quite a bit less than rental properties.

I take it RV means campervan? Those depreciate way faster than
houses.

If you don't plan on selling it who cares? Besides, as you argued for
automobiles, buy them used after they depreciate.

Still a lot of repairs to do, like rust, and the engine of course.


Aluminum doesn't rust. RV's also include trailers so there is no engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_vehicle

My brother had a motorhome but he towed a Toyota yacht tender behind it.
That's a very common practice so you have a vehicle smaller than a bus
to drive around. With the trailer, you can drop the trailer and you have
the tow vehicle for driving around.

There are quite a few full-time RVers in the US. Some are retirees,
others are younger and find employment as they go.

https://www.outsideonline.com/185778...re-you-park-it

When I hit the road it was in a pickup similar to the 3rd photo, rather
than a van or some of the pickups with larger camper shells. It was
inconspicuous and could go anyplace. I wandered around the western US
for a year, going to Arizona for the winter months, and then spent a
year as a Forest Service volunteer. It's an interesting life; you learn
to travel light and improvise.


I don't understand why they're still using steel on any vehicle,


Because its much cheaper than the alternatives
and isnt hard to treat so it doesn't rust.

it's ridiculous.


You are.

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Old September 30th 18, 08:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/30/2018 09:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:11:54 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:41 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Cost to the customer should dictate ones further away will be less
likely to be bought, so I guess they were different carpets.


Presumably. They were all 12' rolls so I never saw the working side.
Furniture was the same deal. There still are furniture factories in the
south eastern US while most of the furniture I loaded on the west coast
was from Asia.

Other products weren't so easy to rationalize. I don't know about the UK
but the Sunday papers (when people still read the Sunday papers) have a
lot of colorful advertising brochures and other crap that most people
strip out and use to wrap garbage. I picked up a lot of those in Boulder
CO to take to Baltimore MD, which is about 1600 miles. Nobody on the
east coast can print useless stuff?

The whole scheme depends on cheap transportation / cheap fuel. Keep
those container ships and trucks rolling!


If your government put as much fuel tax on it as ours did, that wouldn't
be happening. A US gallon of gas here is $6.16 US. How does that
compare to what you pay?


It's been running around $2.97 all summer although I think it's up to
$2.99 now.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/USA

This state has a 27 cents / gallon gasoline tax so it's on the higher
end of the range. Distribution costs play a little part in the price
spread but it's the state and local taxes that make up the bulk of the
difference.

California is the flyer. The tax is 30 cents but because of state laws
they get special, super deluxe, designer blends. Washington has a 45
cent tax which explains their cost. Hawaii is obviously a distribution
problem.

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Old September 30th 18, 08:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:49:56 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:46 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

We have 1,2,5,10,20,50,100,200 pence coins. They're all equally used.
Why use two 25 cent coins when you can use a 50?


No idea. Almost all the coin trays have 5 buckets but the fifth is most
often used to hold paper clips, rubber bands, or other small items.

One explanation is the half dollar was the last of the coins to contain
silver and when the silver prices went up they were hoarded and fell out
of circulation. By the time the composite coins came out people had
gotten away from using them.

Chicken or egg, but most vending machines and the pay phones didn't take
them.

The US did have 2 and 3 cent pieces in the 1800's. There was the naive
thought that a coin's bullion value should match its face value so there
was some jockeying around. The nickel won the popularity contest.

The 20 cent piece didn't last long either. That was a political move by
the silver miners to have the government buy more silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Gold_speech

The US has solved that problem. None of the coinage has real worth
although you can make sort of a low grade zamak out of pennies.
Illegally, of course.


Why do you have such complicated terms for your coins? Ours are just
called by their value - 20p, 50p, etc.


Pity about the sovereign, crown, half crown, groat, shilling, sixpence, quid
etc.

And I don't think we've had coins made of anything anywhere near the
coin's value for a long time. Although they did recently (without
announcing it) change the 10p coin to one that was slightly
thinner/thicker (I forget which) and a different metal to save money.
This played havoc with machines that take them.


It particularly annoys me as I have a coin counter that sorts the coins
and creates a "bank bag" (as in a particular amount - 20 x £1 etc that the
bank likes paid in at once) of coins in each tube, simply by the total
thickness of the pile. With the new 10ps it gets it wrong each time, so I
just grumble at the bank teller when she says I've given her the wrong
amount. I can adjust it for the new coins, but a the moment we have some
of each.


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Old September 30th 18, 08:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:11:54 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:41 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Cost to the customer should dictate ones further away will be less
likely to be bought, so I guess they were different carpets.


Presumably. They were all 12' rolls so I never saw the working side.
Furniture was the same deal. There still are furniture factories in the
south eastern US while most of the furniture I loaded on the west coast
was from Asia.

Other products weren't so easy to rationalize. I don't know about the UK
but the Sunday papers (when people still read the Sunday papers) have a
lot of colorful advertising brochures and other crap that most people
strip out and use to wrap garbage. I picked up a lot of those in Boulder
CO to take to Baltimore MD, which is about 1600 miles. Nobody on the
east coast can print useless stuff?

The whole scheme depends on cheap transportation / cheap fuel. Keep
those container ships and trucks rolling!


If your government put as much fuel tax on it as ours did, that wouldn't
be happening.


It happens in Britain and the EU too.

A US gallon of gas here is $6.16 US. How does that compare to what you
pay?


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Old September 30th 18, 08:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/30/2018 10:00 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:12:20 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/10/2018 12:53 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Are your roads littered with speed bumps? I go over perhaps 200 a day.


That cinches it. No trip to the UK for me. Some of our dirt roads have
speed bumps, aka small boulders, but I've never seen them other than on
private roads.


Round here they put them in the stupidest of places, for example 10
yards from a junction, where nobody could possibly be speeding anyway.

And apparently they cost £10,000 each to install including paperwork.



We have various 'traffic calming' schemes like roundabouts and bulbouts
but speed bumps would really **** off the snowplow crews to say nothing
of the cops.

Even some of the semi-private areas are getting rid of them. I hit one
of the damn things on my bicycle. The sun was in my eyes and I didn't
see it coming so I taco'd my front wheel and did a face plant. I was not
happy.
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Old September 30th 18, 08:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.


I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests' nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail someplace.


Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the motor car.


They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

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Old September 30th 18, 08:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/30/2018 10:01 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 02:47:15 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/10/2018 12:14 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
How many miles did you do in those 12 years? What parts did you replace
for servicing, predicting a failure might happen in the future? I don't
believe you didn't have to change any tyres, brakes, suspension parts,
steering, hoses, etc.


What the hell do you do to cars? Tires are expendable and don't count. I
had to replace a brake hose and heater hose in my 32 year old pickup
because a porpupine ate them. He also chewed at the upper radiator hose
but it's still going strong, teeth marks and all.


I ignore all speed limits and speedbumps and go as fast as I can without
my car coming off the road.


Ah, the washboard road technique...


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Old September 30th 18, 08:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/30/2018 11:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Yes. Generally called spark plug wires in this country. They may be a
thing of the past. My Toyota doesn't have any but I don't know how
common that is.


It will, but they're concealed in one tube.


No concealment on the Toyota. It has Coil-on-Plug ignition.

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/to...nition-coils-1

 




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