Speeding cyclists on canal path

On Apr 10, 5:24*pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

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It must be a different Jeremy Clarkson!

I liked this bit - maybe psycholists can learn from it:

"In Britain cycling is a political statement. You have a camera on your
helmet so that motorists who carve you up can be pilloried on YouTube. You
have shorts. You have a beard and an attitude. You wear a uniform. Cycling
has become the outdoorsy wing of the NUM and CND."


"the NUM and CND!!"
Lord, he's bang-up-to-date in his political fantasies, isn't he?
Perhaps it's because the Falklands is coming around again?

On 10/04/2012 20:13, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:31:58 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:31:48 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Will Judith, Cheerless, Mr Benn and Mad Dave now sign up to the
petition.

In green crayon?

Yes, I forgot. Mad Dave cannot read Ikea instructions and therefore it
is highly likely that he cannot write.

We've been through this before Cwispin. Comprehension never was your
strong point.

a) You can't 'read' pictures.

b) Skillful talented. experienced people like me don't need the
instructions, they are provided for muppets like you.

c) I was taught to write (and spell) in primary school. Mind you - we
had decent teachers then.



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 10/04/2012 19:31, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:31:48 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Will Judith, Cheerless, Mr Benn and Mad Dave now sign up to the
petition.

In green crayon?

Are the figures for RLJ cyclists & motorists written in green crayon?

Is that why you can't provide them?


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:34:26 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote:

On 10/04/2012 20:13, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:31:58 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:31:48 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Will Judith, Cheerless, Mr Benn and Mad Dave now sign up to the
petition.

In green crayon?

Yes, I forgot. Mad Dave cannot read Ikea instructions and therefore it
is highly likely that he cannot write.

We've been through this before Cwispin. Comprehension never was your
strong point.

a) You can't 'read' pictures.

The ancient Egyptians seemed to manage OK.

b) Skillful talented. experienced people like me don't need the
instructions, they are provided for muppets like you.

Is that why you comprehensively bottled from my instuctions/no
instructions challenge?

c) I was taught to write (and spell) in primary school. Mind you - we
had decent teachers then.

And you are, of course, an excellent example of a well educated man!?

Bertie Wooster wrote:

My God! First it was Nugent I caught covertly agreeing with the London
Cycling Campaign's "Love London Go Dutch" appeal, and now Jeremy
Clarkson too.

Perhaps you shopuld read the article before you start whooping?

Simon Mason wrote:

Bloody hell - is that a pig I have just seen flying by?

No, it's just the sight of your prejudices flapping away as ever.

[snip]

"In Copenhagen it's just a pleasant way of getting about. Nobody wears a
helmet. Nobody wears high-visibility clothing. You just wear what you need
to be wearing at your destination. For girls that appears to be very short
skirts. And nobody rides their bike as if they're in the Tour de France.
This would make them sweaty and unattractive, so they travel just fast
enough to maintain their balance.

Did you bother to read what you quoted? Clarkson is (rightly) pointing
out that what makes Copenhagen so pleasant is that cyclists are cycling
in a pleasant and social manner. That is that the cycling on display is
nothing like the testosterone-fuelled hate fest that is so obvious in
the videos that you and that other dickhead like to make as he says
"nobody rides their bike as if they're in the Tour de France". Perhaps
if you rode your bike sensibly no one would have an issue with you?

I wonder if Clarksonius had another point to make?

"In Britain cycling is a political statement. You have a camera on your
helmet so that motorists who carve you up can be pilloried on YouTube. You
have shorts. You have a beard and an attitude. You wear a uniform. Cycling
has become the outdoorsy wing of the NUM and CND.

Oh yes, he did. He appears to be describing some species of dickhead
cyclist, ones who wear video cameras and pick fights with motorists.
Does that remind you of anyone?

On Apr 10, 9:42*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:34:26 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR









wrote:
On 10/04/2012 20:13, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:31:58 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
*wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:31:48 +0100, Bertie Wooster
*wrote:

Will Judith, Cheerless, Mr Benn and Mad Dave now sign up to the
petition.

In green crayon?

Yes, I forgot. Mad Dave cannot read Ikea instructions and therefore it
is highly likely that he cannot write.

We've been through this before Cwispin. *Comprehension never was your
strong point.

a) You can't 'read' pictures.

The ancient Egyptians seemed to manage OK.


Bloody difficult to read images in a restaurant a few days ago. It
might be my eyes, but the image on the gents was a bloke, and the
image on the ladies was another bloke, just a tad more Rupert Brooke-
ish. I nearly blotted my copybook.

Squashme wrote:

Bloody difficult to read images in a restaurant a few days ago. It
might be my eyes,

It's all that wanking that you do.

On 10/04/2012 21:42, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:34:26 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote:

On 10/04/2012 20:13, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:31:58 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:31:48 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Will Judith, Cheerless, Mr Benn and Mad Dave now sign up to the
petition.

In green crayon?

Yes, I forgot. Mad Dave cannot read Ikea instructions and therefore it
is highly likely that he cannot write.

We've been through this before Cwispin. Comprehension never was your
strong point.

a) You can't 'read' pictures.

The ancient Egyptians seemed to manage OK.

Egyptian hieroglyphs were a writing system, IKEA instructions are
pictograms - they are entirely different.

Cwispin ****s up again. Are you really a teacher?

b) Skillful talented. experienced people like me don't need the
instructions, they are provided for muppets like you.

Is that why you comprehensively bottled from my instuctions/no
instructions challenge?

We never got to the bottom of that did we? What was your cunning little
plan?

c) I was taught to write (and spell) in primary school. Mind you - we
had decent teachers then.


And you are, of course, an excellent example of a well educated man!?

Thank you. I was taught, for example, how to spell the word
"instructions" and that hieroglyphics are totally different from pictograms.

It must be terribly embarrassing to be constantly humiliated by someone
so poorly educated.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On Apr 10, 6:31*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:09:38 +0100, "Simon Mason"





wrote:
Bloody hell - is that a pig I have just seen flying by?

QUOTE:
Jeremy Clarkson, the opinionated presenter of BBC motoring show Top Gear and
bete noire of Britain's cyclists, has said that he would live in Copenhagen
"in a heartbeat" - and it's all down to the city's embrace of cycling as a
means of getting around.

In an article that appeared in the InGear section of last weekend's Sunday
Times, Clarkson contrasts London, where despite Boris Johnson's promised
cycling revolution it's fair to say the car remains king, with the approach
adopted in the Danish capital which sees around one in three residents cycle
to work or their place of study each day.

And it appears that Clarkson sees the Copenhagen model as the way forward to
create cities that are better to live in.

"I suspect even the Danes are baffled about why they keep being picked out
as a shining example of humanity at its best," wrote Clarkson. "Just last
week a newspaper in Copenhagen suggested it must be because, while cycling
from place to place, visitors enjoy looking at all the pretty Danish girls'
bottoms.

"In fact, I've decided that the world's five best cities are, in order: San
Francisco, London, Damascus, Rome and Copenhagen. It's fan-bleeding-tastic.
And best of all: there are no bloody cars cluttering the place up. Almost
everyone goes almost everywhere on a bicycle.

"Now I know that sounds like the ninth circle of hell, but that's because
you live in Britain, where cars and bikes share the road space," he
continues. "This cannot and does not work. It's like putting a dog and a cat
in a cage and expecting them to get along. They won't, and as a result
London is currently hosting an undeclared war. I am constantly irritated by
cyclists and I'm sure they're constantly irritated by me.

"City fathers have to choose. Cars or bicycles. And in Copenhagen they've
gone for the bike.

"In Britain cycling is a political statement. You have a camera on your
helmet so that motorists who carve you up can be pilloried on YouTube. You
have shorts. You have a beard and an attitude. You wear a uniform. Cycling
has become the outdoorsy wing of the NUM and CND.

"In Copenhagen it's just a pleasant way of getting about. Nobody wears a
helmet. Nobody wears high-visibility clothing. You just wear what you need
to be wearing at your destination. For girls that appears to be very short
skirts. And nobody rides their bike as if they're in the Tour de France.
This would make them sweaty and unattractive, so they travel just fast
enough to maintain their balance.

"The upshot is a city that works. It's pleasing to look at. It's
astonishingly quiet. It's safe. And no one wastes half their life looking
for a parking space. I'd live there in a heartbeat."

Although it may be premature for Pickfords to get on the phone to ask
Clarkson whether he's fixed a date to move, his piece does give food for
thought; if the petrolhead-in-chief can see the merits of prioritising the
bike over the motor car in the urban environment, there's a glimmer of hope
for us all.

It is of course possible to take issue with some of the points Clarkson
makes. London, for example, is a very different city to Copenhagen, or
Amsterdam, say, with a much greater area which means longer commutes for
many of those who live in the city compared to the ones their Danish or
Dutch counterparts have.

Then there's the question of infrastructure. Cycling in Copenhagen or
Amsterdam is not undertaken exclusively on segregated cycle paths; cyclists
can, and do, ride on the road, but they are not choked by motor traffic to
the extent London's are, and the needs of bike riders are front of mind for
planners, not an afterthought, including issues such as the provision of
cycle parking.

Clarkson appears blissfully unaware that some of the conflict between
motorists and cyclists - who, it should be remembered, are not mutually
exclusive groups, with most adult cyclists also owning cars - could in part
be due to attitudes encouraged by his own TV programme and newspaper
columns.

And as the trade website Bike Biz, in its own report on Clarkson's comments
in the Sunday Times, points out, he is now on Twitter, and it's inevitable
that at some point he will use that medium to have a pop at Britain's
cyclists.

But that shouldn't detract from the underlying message of his latest piece -
encouraging people to use bicycles and not cars to get around does make
cities a more pleasant place to live, not to mention the health and
environmental benefits it brings.

With cycling pushed up the political agenda as a result of The Times
newspaper's Cities fit for Cycling campaign, itself building on the work of
existing advocates of cycling, the fact that someone of Clarkson's stature
recognises the benefits that the bicycle can bring is progress.

Copenhagen, it should be remembered, isn't a city that always embraced the
bicycle to the extent it does now. It took a conscious effort on the part of
city planners in the 1970s and 1980s to change policy that favoured the
motor car and lay the groundwork for the present-day city that Clarkson now
praises.

It didn't happen overnight there, and London and other British cities won't
be transformed solely on the basis of one newspaper article; but if Jeremy
Clarkson can see the appeal of cities built around cycling - cities, that
is, built around people - that in itself is progress.

http://road.cc/content/news/56433-je...-cycling-advoc...

My God! First it was Nugent I caught covertly agreeing with the London
Cycling Campaign's "Love London Go Dutch" appeal, and now Jeremy
Clarkson too.


Did Nugent really say that he agreed with the "Love London Go Dutch"
campaign?
I would have loved to have seen that - but he is in my killfile, so I
didn't.

--
Simon Mason