RIP the 81 year old mown down on a crossing by a cyclist

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:25:59 -0000, JNugent wrote:

On 25/03/2013 11:23, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.

Why? Death by recklessness would cover it. If I do something really
stupid which causes you to die, but it doesn't involve a bicycle or a
car, I'd still get prosecuted.

Not necessarily.

You may be thinking of manslaughter, but that does not apply in every
case of simple negligence or misadventure.

What ones do you think I can get away with then?

Why have seperate laws for everything?

In order to make it easier to prosecute, of course.

For the simpleton judges.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103
It takes two to cause an accident.

It doesn't.

It might sometimes fall out that way, but not always.

He crossed the road when something was coming.

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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:26:25 -0000, JNugent wrote:

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.

So can anybody, the only difference with cars is you're claiming from an insurance company instead of a person.

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Cobra: 2 conjoined bras.

On 25/03/2013 12:14, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
as per subject

Ha ha ha, I thought you were off in a sulk.

On Monday, March 25, 2013 12:37:23 PM UTC+1, Simon Weissel wrote:


But the national cycling group, the CTC, argues this [new law] is

unnecessary given that courts have used the 1861 act in the last decade

to jail two cyclists who killed pedestrians, while drivers who kill

cyclists routinely receive non-custodial sentences.


If it's the case that no drivers have been jailed in the last decade for killing a cyclist, then I agree it is a shocking state of affairs.
However, if that's not the case, then the above argument is cherrypicking vs. generalisation, and as such is worthless.

"Major Scott" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:26:25 -0000, JNugent
wrote:

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after
colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.

So can anybody, the only difference with cars is you're claiming from an
insurance company instead of a person.

The cyclist's fridge freezer insurance will cover him.


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On 25/03/2013 12:37, Major Scott wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after
colliding with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road, Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103

And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.

So can anybody, the only difference with cars is you're claiming from an
insurance company instead of a person.

Bingo.

And on whom would you rather rely when needing proven compensation?

(a) Guardian Royal Exchange,

(b) the capacious bank account of the 20-yr-old driver of a 1992
Vauxhall Nova, or

(c) the capacious bank account of a smelly 30-yr-old cyclist who hasn't
changed his clothes in two days and who, in any even, scarpered and
cannot be traced?

"Simon Weissel" wrote in message
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On 25/03/2013 12:14, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
as per subject

Ha ha ha, I thought you were off in a sulk.

No, I never sulk and I never let anyone get to me, much as they try. I'd
like to think I'd retire from such an insignificant social gathering if I
ever "went Mason".

I've never understood why some people take these newsgroups, and themselves,
so seriously.

"Major Scott" wrote in message
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Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Trollin', trollin', trollin'

Rawhide!

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:53:46 -0000, Mr Pounder wrote:


"Major Scott" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:26:25 -0000, JNugent
wrote:

On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after
colliding
with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road,
Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103


And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.

So can anybody, the only difference with cars is you're claiming from an
insurance company instead of a person.

The cyclist's fridge freezer insurance will cover him.

Yes of course. Food is exactly the same as cycling.

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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:54:58 -0000, JNugent wrote:

On 25/03/2013 12:37, Major Scott wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 25/03/2013 11:32, Major Scott wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:41:05 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

"An elderly man who was knocked down by a cyclist has died.

The 81-year-old pedestrian suffered serious head injuries after
colliding with the 22-year-old cyclist.

It happened on the pelican pedestrian crossing on the A56 Manchester
Road, Broadheath, Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street."

There needs to be a 'causing death by reckless cycling' law.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....-being-1946103

And drivers never cause accidents do they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21922373

If they do, they can be prosecuted and they can pay compensation.

So can anybody, the only difference with cars is you're claiming from an
insurance company instead of a person.

Bingo.

And on whom would you rather rely when needing proven compensation?

(a) Guardian Royal Exchange,

(b) the capacious bank account of the 20-yr-old driver of a 1992
Vauxhall Nova, or

(c) the capacious bank account of a smelly 30-yr-old cyclist who hasn't
changed his clothes in two days and who, in any even, scarpered and
cannot be traced?

Since the chances of a cyclist who weighs the same as me injuring me are virtually none, I don't give a ****.

Car insurance is to pay for damage to my CAR not me. A few people have hit me, and I've never been damaged, funnily enough they usually hit the car....

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