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Dear cyclists,
After years using wet lubes in all conditions (currently, a specific chain oil with PTFE from 3in1 http://www.3-en-un.fr/produit/lubrifiant-chaines-et-cables-250ml/), and being used to seing my chain getting very dirty, I have just learnt that I may avoid this by using dry lube instead. Actually, I have heard of one specific product, the Squirt dry lube http://www.squirtlube.com/our-products/. It is about twice more expensive than the lubricant I am currently using, but it is supposed to reduce cleaning work, and if it does make the chain cleaner, it may as well reduce its wear and extend its life. So, have any of you tried that lubricant, or any other dry one? Would you recommend it rather than wet lubes? -- **__o Tanguy *__\,_ (_)|'(_) |
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On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:02:30 AM UTC+2, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
Dear cyclists, After years using wet lubes in all conditions (currently, a specific chain oil with PTFE from 3in1 http://www.3-en-un.fr/produit/lubrifiant-chaines-et-cables-250ml/), and being used to seing my chain getting very dirty, I have just learnt that I may avoid this by using dry lube instead. Actually, I have heard of one specific product, the Squirt dry lube http://www.squirtlube.com/our-products/. It is about twice more expensive than the lubricant I am currently using, but it is supposed to reduce cleaning work, and if it does make the chain cleaner, it may as well reduce its wear and extend its life. So, have any of you tried that lubricant, or any other dry one? Would you recommend it rather than wet lubes? -- **__o Tanguy *__\,_ (_)|'(_) Squirt is one of the better dry lubes I know. I am using it now. The issue that I have with wet lubes is that it attracks dirt and it leaves a mess at your cassette which is difficult to clean. This is solved by dry lube and as I said Squirt is one of the better ones. During a wet ride it stays on very well but I recommend to lube your chain again afterwards. Another issue with Squirt is that it penetrates very slowly. Lube your chain one night before your next ride. Lube intervals in general once every 250 km. Lou |
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On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 5:02:30 AM UTC-4, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
Dear cyclists, After years using wet lubes in all conditions (currently, a specific chain oil with PTFE from 3in1 http://www.3-en-un.fr/produit/lubrifiant-chaines-et-cables-250ml/), and being used to seing my chain getting very dirty, I have just learnt that I may avoid this by using dry lube instead. Actually, I have heard of one specific product, the Squirt dry lube http://www.squirtlube.com/our-products/. It is about twice more expensive than the lubricant I am currently using, but it is supposed to reduce cleaning work, and if it does make the chain cleaner, it may as well reduce its wear and extend its life. So, have any of you tried that lubricant, or any other dry one? Would you recommend it rather than wet lubes? Please realize that any discussion of chain lubrication is likely to become much like a debate on religion. Having said that: I lubricate my chains using a mixture of roughly 95% paraffin (that is, solid wax) that has about 5% oil blended into it. I warm the chain while it's on the bike using a propane torch with a low flame, working about 10" at a time, and being careful to protect the tire, wheel, etc. I then crayon the solid wax mix onto the chain, reheat until the wax flows into the chain's innards, then back pedal and repeat for the next 10". When the entire chain has been done, I wipe off the excess using paper towels. The result is a dry lube. Some lube their chains with pure paraffin wax, but that causes squeaks after any riding in the rain. This gives me clean chains, a much cleaner bike, and it seems to last at least as long as any other chain lubricant. Until I started using this method, I tried many other products and procedures. I like this best. YMMV. A couple different comparison tests have shown that lubricating with heated paraffin gives greater chain life and less friction than all other tested methods. But again, YMMV. - Frank Krygowski |
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You can enhance chain life without any chain cleaning at all. The method is as follows:
1. Fit a hub gearbox like a Shimano Nexus or Alfine. 2. Fit steel gears or, if you want to be fancy, stainless. You can use an aluminium chainring and sprocket but they won't last as well. 3. Fit KMC X8 chain. This is a derailleur chain but is usually cheaper than the Y8 single-speed chain, which works slightly better. KMC has the best factory lube. 4. Fit Hebie Chainglider. This is a close-fitting enclosure for the entire transmission chain. 5. Run the chain inside the Chainglider on the factory lube, without any other service or even oil, until the chain shows 0.75mm elongation. I improved chain wear between 200-300% over using White Lightning liquid wax inside a Dutch chaincase, so the improvement over an open chain should be even greater. Andre Jute Remember, grinding paste is a mixture of oil and earth -- Jobst Brandt On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+1, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Dear cyclists, After years using wet lubes in all conditions (currently, a specific chain oil with PTFE from 3in1 http://www.3-en-un.fr/produit/lubrifiant-chaines-et-cables-250ml/), and being used to seing my chain getting very dirty, I have just learnt that I may avoid this by using dry lube instead. Actually, I have heard of one specific product, the Squirt dry lube http://www.squirtlube.com/our-products/. It is about twice more expensive than the lubricant I am currently using, but it is supposed to reduce cleaning work, and if it does make the chain cleaner, it may as well reduce its wear and extend its life. So, have any of you tried that lubricant, or any other dry one? Would you recommend it rather than wet lubes? -- **__o Tanguy *__\,_ (_)|'(_) |
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Andre Jute, 2018-04-26 02:53+0200:
You can enhance chain life without any chain cleaning at all. The method is as follows: 1. Fit a hub gearbox like a Shimano Nexus or Alfine. Thank you, but I am afraid this is not part of my plans. It would be fun if I had the money and time to invest in this though. -- Tanguy |
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On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:50:02 AM UTC+1, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
Andre Jute, 2018-04-26 02:53+0200: You can enhance chain life without any chain cleaning at all. The method is as follows: 1. Fit a hub gearbox like a Shimano Nexus or Alfine. Thank you, but I am afraid this is not part of my plans. It would be fun if I had the money and time to invest in this though. -- Tanguy To each his own. Brand new Shimano gearboxes installed to good quality rims on industry-standard spokes are cheap on German Ebay from around November through January when the manufacturers clear the shelves of parts bought for unassembled bikes to make space for the new year's parts long since ordered. Can't help you with a shortage of time. AJ |
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"Tanguy Ortolo" wrote in message news Dear cyclists, After years using wet lubes in all conditions (currently, a specific chain oil with PTFE from 3in1 http://www.3-en-un.fr/produit/lubrifiant-chaines-et-cables-250ml/), and being used to seing my chain getting very dirty, I have just learnt that I may avoid this by using dry lube instead. Actually, I have heard of one specific product, the Squirt dry lube http://www.squirtlube.com/our-products/. It is about twice more expensive than the lubricant I am currently using, but it is supposed to reduce cleaning work, and if it does make the chain cleaner, it may as well reduce its wear and extend its life. So, have any of you tried that lubricant, or any other dry one? Would you recommend it rather than wet lubes? There was an aerosol version with mostly solvent that evaporated immediately - it probably disappeared about when they banned CFCs to protect the ozone layer. |
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