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  #81  
Old January 5th 09, 04:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Howard Kveck
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LawBoy01 wrote:

I agree with you, Howard. But do you agree with my assertion that the
Marshall Plan got us into this international mess?


I'm not sure what the connection is that you see between the Marshall Plan (which
was focused mostly on Europe) and the Israel/Palestine situation, Philip.

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  #82  
Old January 5th 09, 05:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
LawBoy01
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On Jan 4, 10:44*pm, Howard Kveck wrote:
In article ,

*LawBoy01 wrote:
I agree with you, Howard. *But do you agree with my assertion that the
Marshall Plan got us into this international mess?


* *I'm not sure what the connection is that you see between the Marshall Plan (which
was focused mostly on Europe) and the Israel/Palestine situation, Philip.

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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard

* * * * * * * * * * * * *Caught playing safe
* * * * * * * * * * * * * It's a bored game

* * * * * * * * * * *remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


The best I can do is read suggest that you read post WWII books about
the Marshall Docrine and the British involvement in Palestine (now
Israel, originally many things, but not originally Jewish).
  #83  
Old January 5th 09, 05:11 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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On Jan 4, 5:11*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message

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The settlement expansions have happened all in the last 20 years and
are continuing to this day.


Psst - the settlement expansions have happened since 1948. But don't worry,
be happy.




Jackass -


You are seriously ignorant.

They weren't even possible until after the 1967 war. Israel didn't
occupy the West Bank until then.

jesus. ****ing idiot.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
  #84  
Old January 5th 09, 05:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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On Jan 4, 4:48*pm, Bill C wrote:
On Jan 4, 6:46*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:





On Jan 4, 11:57*am, Bill C wrote:


On Jan 2, 8:29*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:


On Jan 2, 3:55*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message


...


On Jan 2, 1:25 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


Then explain to me why conservative and peaceful Arabs are trying to
move
into Israel where they can make a decent living and have a decent living
standard that isn't available in the surrounding Arab ruled countries?


Strawman.


HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


I'm talking about the continuous expansion of settlements in the West
Bank. As long as Israel continues to expand its territory, she will
never have peace, nor does she deserve it. There isn't a people on the
face of the planet that will not fight if their territory is being
taken away.


Say, didn't ISRAEL win all of that territory in wars that the surrounding
Arab nations started?


Dumbass -


In the West Bank the settlements have been increasingly encroaching on
Palestinan territory. That is a fact.


The expansion isn't even fully supported in Israel itself. Most of
them are "illegal" even under Israeli law, but they don't have an
enforcement mechanism to get rid of the illegal settlements.
Eventually the squatters become permanent and the Palestinians,
naturally, want to do something about it.


If you were in their shoes, you would too.


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Yep, and can germany get Alsace and the Sudetenland back now too?


Ignoramous -


The settlement expansions have happened all in the last 20 years and
are continuing to this day.


If someone was taking your territory, you'd likely be doing something
about it.


thanks,


K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text -


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Yep. That's been the justification given for lots of wars and global
slaughters, right along with religion.




Dumbass -


There isn't a nation on the face of the planet that wouldn't fight if
a neighbor was annexing its territory.

If Israel wants peace, she's gotta start by NOT EXPANDING.

duh.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
  #85  
Old January 5th 09, 05:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
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If Israel wants peace, she's gotta start by NOT EXPANDING.


Got news for you chum - if you don't know the problems why are you
pretending to have some answers?

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Old January 5th 09, 05:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Howard Kveck
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In article ,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
...

If Israel wants peace, she's gotta start by NOT EXPANDING.


Got news for you chum - if you don't know the problems why are you
pretending to have some answers?


I sure wish Obi Tom Kunobi could explain it to all of us rubes.

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Old January 5th 09, 05:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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OFF TOPIC. THIS NEWSGROUP IS ABOUT BIKE RACING.

R E C . B I C Y C L C E S . R A C I N G

IF THIS NEWSGROUP WANTS PEACE, SHE'S GOTTA START BY NOT EXPANDING!


"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
...

If Israel wants peace, she's gotta start by NOT EXPANDING.


Got news for you chum - if you don't know the problems why are you
pretending to have some answers?


I sure wish Obi Tom Kunobi could explain it to all of us rubes.

--
tanx,
Howard

Caught playing safe
It's a bored game

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?



  #88  
Old January 5th 09, 05:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Chinese Math
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OFF TOPIC. THIS NEWSGROUP IS ABOUT BIKE RACING.

R E C . B I C Y C L C E S . R A C I N G

IF THIS NEWSGROUP WANTS PEACE, SHE'S GOTTA START BY NOT EXPANDING!


  #89  
Old January 5th 09, 06:52 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Paul G.
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On Jan 4, 2:38*pm, Donald Munro wrote:
Paul G. wrote:
Problem solved. The Jews turn the desert into a highly profitable
financial center with world-class comedy clubs. The Palestinians get their
pile of rocks and sand back. The US taxpayers stop having to pay billions
of dollars a year to subsidize Israel. Everybody's happy! -Paul


So what happens to Vegas ? Can it handle the competition ?


I'm thinking yes- not a lot of overlap between Israel and Las Vegas.
For example, when you see heads bobbing up and down in Las Vegas, it's
hookers performing fellatio. In Israel, it's guys praying. On the
other hand, if you want to pay for sex in Israel, they can get it for
you wholesale.
-Paul
  #90  
Old January 5th 09, 09:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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Chinese Math wrote:
IF THIS NEWSGROUP WANTS PEACE, SHE'S GOTTA START BY NOT EXPANDING!


We are not EXPANDING. We are ENGORGING.

 




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