Pushing For Doping Convictions

There's no doubt that drugs in sports is a real problem. But as someone here
pointed out - cycling is "low hanging fruit" because the drug testing is so
comprehensive.

The problem with all of this is that cycling is being presented as much more
drug related than other sports which most definitely isn't the case. There
isn't a sport that doesn't have some sort of drug to increase performance in
that specific area. Even tiddely winks!

Getting the drugs out of cycling doesn't have to mean large size headlines
on the front page of general interest newspapers. It can quietly push people
who are users, into a corner where they either quit the drugs or the racing.

What do you think?

On Oct 5, 2:51*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
There's no doubt that drugs in sports is a real problem. But as someone here
pointed out - cycling is "low hanging fruit" because the drug testing is so
comprehensive.

The problem with all of this is that cycling is being presented as much more
drug related than other sports which most definitely isn't the case. There
isn't a sport that doesn't have some sort of drug to increase performance in
that specific area. Even tiddely winks!

Getting the drugs out of cycling doesn't have to mean large size headlines
on the front page of general interest newspapers. It can quietly push people
who are users, into a corner where they either quit the drugs or the racing.

What do you think?

I like the idea of placing the dirty rider on some sort of "in-house"
disciplinary actions(suspension for 1 year) for undisclosed team
offenses. The problem with this solution is human nature. We are all
hungry for the next scandal, which is why the National Inquirer is
still in existance.

This double secret probation would also allow the teams and sponsors
save face from the public opinion onslaught, which would possibly
retain a sponsor or two.

I am of the philosophy that where there is big money to be made in
sports there will be cheats...this includes the governing bodies of
the sports. I am sure the UCI is treading on thin ice when it comes
to cleaning up the sport of cycling. What happens when 75% of the pro
peloton gets tossed out at one time?? The TV ratings dwindle, half of
the races will go by the way side and the sponsors will stop pouring
money into our sport.

The other sports governing bodies(soccer,baseball, football, and yes
tiddley winks) are choosing not to address the issue of doping in fear
their sport will shrivel up like Cadel Evans' overall grand tour
chances.

Another solution....have red bull sponosor a seperate racing series
where anything goes and call it the Full Octane Tour. this will allow
rock racing full opportunity utilize their weapons!

chris

-------I have nothing to do with red bull or rock racing---------

On Oct 6, 9:42*am, Chris Mogridge wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:51*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

There's no doubt that drugs in sports is a real problem. But as someone here
pointed out - cycling is "low hanging fruit" because the drug testing is so
comprehensive.

The problem with all of this is that cycling is being presented as much more
drug related than other sports which most definitely isn't the case. There
isn't a sport that doesn't have some sort of drug to increase performance in
that specific area. Even tiddely winks!

Getting the drugs out of cycling doesn't have to mean large size headlines
on the front page of general interest newspapers. It can quietly push people
who are users, into a corner where they either quit the drugs or the racing.

What do you think?

I like the idea of placing the dirty rider on some sort of "in-house"
disciplinary actions(suspension for 1 year) for undisclosed team
offenses. *The problem with this solution is human nature. *We are all
hungry for the next scandal, which is why the National Inquirer is
still in existance.

This double secret probation would also allow the teams and sponsors
save face from the public opinion onslaught, which would possibly
retain a sponsor or two.

I am of the philosophy that where there is big money to be made in
sports there will be cheats...this includes the governing bodies of
the sports. *I am sure the UCI is treading on thin ice when it comes
to cleaning up the sport of cycling. What happens when 75% of the pro
peloton gets tossed out at one time?? The TV ratings dwindle, half of
the races will go by the way side and the sponsors will stop pouring
money into our sport.

The other sports governing bodies(soccer,baseball, football, and yes
tiddley winks) are choosing not to address the issue of doping in fear
their sport will shrivel up like Cadel Evans' overall grand tour
chances.

Another solution....have red bull sponosor a seperate racing series
where anything goes and call it the Full Octane Tour. *this will allow
rock racing full opportunity utilize their weapons!

chris

-------I have nothing to do with red bull or rock racing---------

isn't this what the Romans did with gladiators. I presume you're
kidding but didn't include a smiley face

letting people take PED's to put on a good show is evil. About as
smart as legalising recreation drugs; taking it out of drug pushing
scum and making it proper just means the racers will die a bit
younger, and the chemists may be a little more accurate with the
doses. No one would play because no one would pay. Except maybe in
South America or SE Asia

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:33:54 -0700 (PDT), Henry
wrote:

isn't this what the Romans did with gladiators. I presume you're
kidding but didn't include a smiley face

letting people take PED's to put on a good show is evil. About as
smart as legalising recreation drugs; taking it out of drug pushing
scum and making it proper just means the racers will die a bit
younger, and the chemists may be a little more accurate with the
doses. No one would play because no one would pay. Except maybe in
South America or SE Asia

First of all, I am disappointed to hear that gladiators were on drugs.
In all the time I watched the sport, I thought they were all clean,
although I had my suspicions about the guys with the nets and
tridents.

I think that the real problem in a real sport is that the best would
compete in the clean group, where the money would gravitate to, and
then you would still have the same problem. An openly drugged group
that would be marginal and a 'clean' group with testing issues.

Anything less than summary executions with appeal processes in place
for their dependents will not work. I think we should all get used to
the idea that it will be a messy area forever, that we should keep it
in perspective, and stop fixating on it at every one line report
coming from some acronym agency, and move on with our lives. Catch who
we can, make life difficult for the rest, legalize what makes sense,
and know life wasn't meant to be perfect, even in the monasteries.
Your opinion is perfectly capable of being different, but is simply a
sign that your life isn't perfect...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...