Not much needed in a "Be Seen" light

On 11/5/2014 7:03 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 08:04, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

What's neat is too hear someone order Big Mac, large fries and diet soda.

Not that insane - the soda is sugar, which is too fast. If the fries
were fatter (ie more potato, less oil), and the bun a bit less fluffy,
the protein/fat/carb mix in the rest isn't as stupid as it might be.
Though actually having some vegetables in would help a lot.

Diet soda can actually cause people to eat more because they are not
getting any calories from the soda. If what they ate more of was good
stuff then it would be one thing. If they eat more french fries and
other carbs then that's not so great.

Buffets should always include free soda so people will eat less food.

On 11/5/2014 2:04 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:50:27 AM UTC-5, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:36:19 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 11/4/2014 9:50 AM, jbeattie wrote:


I think there is a higher U.S. adult cycling rate now than ever --
but obesity is up, too. Go figure. Maybe its more complicated that
one might think.

It's almost certainly more complicated than most people think. Note the
continuing debate on low fat vs. low carb diets for losing weight.
There are serious researchers who blame the obesity epidemic on the
shift _away_ from meats and fats. And the truth is, it takes a lot of
cycling to burn off one extra nighttime snack.

But it would be grossly simplistic to think that changes in the U.S.
adult cycling rate would show up in national data on obesity. Yes, the
U.S. may have more adult cyclists than it did ten years ago, but I
expect the national average annual bike mileage is still below 20 miles
per year per citizen. I suspect that even for those who get counted as
cyclists (i.e. "rode a bike more than five times") the annual mileage
averages less than 100 miles.

Hell, if _every_ American rode 100 extra miles next year, the obesity
rate wouldn't budge. It wouldn't come close to making up for the
tremendous drop in physical activity over the past few decades. Can you
remember people pushing un-powered lawn mowers? Clipping hedges with
big manual clippers? Walking to the store to buy some groceries?
Lifting garage doors by using their muscles? Raking leaves using an
actual rake? Shoveling snow using an actual shovel? Washing dishes by
hand?


The major problem with any form of exercise as a weight control
program is that you have to work so hard and so long to lose one Big
Mac and if you have the large fries it gets even worse.
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Cheers,

John B.

Yeah, you need good lights so you can go for an all night ride to burn off those calories. What's neat is too hear someone order Big Mac, large fries and diet soda.

The lights about which I originally started this thread aren't great for riding at speed but they both run all night wirded to the one battery. They're fantastic be seen lights though.


From my days tending bar, the phrase 'rum and diet Coke'
indicates a Very Large Person.



--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/5/2014 10:00 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 06:50, John B. Slocomb wrote:

The major problem with any form of exercise as a weight control
program is that you have to work so hard and so long to lose one Big
Mac and if you have the large fries it gets even worse.

Are the USians in this group aware of the portion sizes in
restaurants/diners over there compared to here? They're enormous.

They seem to have gotten bigger over the years. I can recall, back in
the day, ordering dessert in restaurants. Instead, I'm now asking for
boxes to take the extra food home.

But I guess that could be changes in my metabolism as well.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On 11/5/2014 6:51 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:


There are many reasons why some people like to ride at night or have to ride at night.
The thing is that with decent lights its safe and enjoyable to ride at
night and night
riding can be done on various terrains.

Unfortunately one of the trails here in town is posted as No Bicycling Between 1/2 hour
Prioer To Sunset to 1/2 Hour After Sunset. I don't know why that is as
it's definitely not
a hazardour trail to ride or at lerast not any more hazardous than other
sections that are
not so posted.

Those policies certainly argue against a common ruse used to build such
trails: "It's a transportation facility! We should spend
transportation money on it, because it will take lots of cars off the road!"


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- Frank Krygowski

On 05/11/2014 16:02, sms wrote:
On 11/5/2014 7:03 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 08:04, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

What's neat is too hear someone order Big Mac, large fries and diet
soda.

Not that insane - the soda is sugar, which is too fast. If the fries
were fatter (ie more potato, less oil), and the bun a bit less fluffy,
the protein/fat/carb mix in the rest isn't as stupid as it might be.
Though actually having some vegetables in would help a lot.

Diet soda can actually cause people to eat more because they are not
getting any calories from the soda. If what they ate more of was good
stuff then it would be one thing. If they eat more french fries and
other carbs then that's not so great.

Buffets should always include free soda so people will eat less food.

Tongue in cheek?

On 11/5/2014 8:48 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 16:02, sms wrote:
On 11/5/2014 7:03 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 08:04, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

What's neat is too hear someone order Big Mac, large fries and diet
soda.

Not that insane - the soda is sugar, which is too fast. If the fries
were fatter (ie more potato, less oil), and the bun a bit less fluffy,
the protein/fat/carb mix in the rest isn't as stupid as it might be.
Though actually having some vegetables in would help a lot.

Diet soda can actually cause people to eat more because they are not
getting any calories from the soda. If what they ate more of was good
stuff then it would be one thing. If they eat more french fries and
other carbs then that's not so great.

Buffets should always include free soda so people will eat less food.

Tongue in cheek?

No, I was referring to the best course of action for the restaurant
owner. Soda costs them almost nothing so they should want patrons
filling up on HFCS, not meat, chicken, fish, etc. I was surprised when
cruise lines eliminated free soda and started selling "soda cards."
You'd think that the small number of people that were willing to pay $8
a day for soda would not offset the cost of the extra food that non-soda
drinkers ate.

I wonder when restaurants will decide to start charging for water. With
fewer customers buying soda it's got to be a concern for them.

On 11/5/2014 10:03 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 08:04, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

What's neat is too hear someone order Big Mac, large fries and diet soda.

Not that insane - the soda is sugar, which is too fast. If the fries
were fatter (ie more potato, less oil), and the bun a bit less fluffy,
the protein/fat/carb mix in the rest isn't as stupid as it might be.
Though actually having some vegetables in would help a lot.


I haven't checked lately but I would imagine that there is some sugar in
the sauce on the Big Mac.

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 3:00:48 PM UTC, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 06:50, John B. Slocomb wrote:

The major problem with any form of exercise as a weight control
program is that you have to work so hard and so long to lose one Big
Mac and if you have the large fries it gets even worse.

Are the USians in this group aware of the portion sizes in
restaurants/diners over there compared to here? They're enormous.

Nothing new in that. During WW2 American soldiers in Britain were rationed *down* to more than double the calories permitted to the host nation.

Andre Jute

On 05/11/14 22:33, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:52:30 +1100, James
wrote:

On 05/11/14 11:31, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:15:46 +1100, James
wrote:

On 04/11/14 23:04, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 19:23:54 +1100, James
wrote:

On 03/11/14 22:29, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 16:12:12 +1100, James
wrote:

On 03/11/14 14:47, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:17:00 PM UTC-8, James wrote:
On 03/11/14 02:13, Joerg wrote:

A friend of mine is an expert dirt biker and mountain biker who
has absolutely no problem going through hundreds of miles of
uninhabited and very gnarly offroad areas. Meaning zero cell
coverage if you screw up.

sarcasm

How extremely brave. Your friend must have enormous balls.
Everyone should be on their knees in your friends presence.

/sarcasm

Do people really have trouble letting go of the umbilical cord?

So, what's the deal with riding in the outback? Do you use a
satellite phone or call for help on a digeridoo?

Kidding aside, I do get concerned skiing out of bounds -- so I don't
do it alone.
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamasc...limber_po.html
According to the world's most reliable source, Wikipedia, cell phone
use has cut the number of deaths/rescues on Mt. Hood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_H...bing_accidents.

If Joerg's buddy crashes in the middle of nowhere, he can't update
his Facebook status to " I'm fu****" -- but he can do some selfies as
he bleeds out.


Further, some of the places I go fishing could be deadly. It would be
easy to slip and be knocked unconscious. The river stones are large and
slippery, and the bush is right to the river bank, so you have to wade
to fish. The water is also only a few degrees warmer than ice, and has
a strong current where the river narrows. The banks have deadly snakes
and spiders, and there's plenty of biting insects that some could have
an allergic reaction to. Sunburn gives you skin cancer. Fishing is
DANGEROUS, with or without a phone!

http://goo.gl/maps/O6sSS

And "up north" they have alligators and out in the ocean you've got
sharks.



Crocodiles in FNQ and NT. Alligators are like lovable kittens by
comparison.

I always get mixed up between the two. Alligators have short noses and
crocodiles long noses, except that some crocodiles have shorter
noses...


Salt water crocs have a slightly shorter and more broad nose than fresh
water crocs - and fresh water crocs are no where near as dangerous, in
fact I believe relatively harmless.


Must be that Australian crocs are a bit shy as:

The Nile crocodile has a somewhat deserved reputation as a vicious
man-eater. The proximity of much of its habitat to people means
run-ins are frequent. And its virtually indiscriminate diet means a
villager washing clothes by a riverbank might look just as tasty as a
migrating wildebeest. Firm numbers are sketchy, but estimates are that
up to 200 people may die each year in the jaws of a Nile croc.


We wash clothes in a machine...

http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northe...-1227028542104

Do you now?


Well, not until recently ;-)

--
JS

On 06/11/14 02:00, Clive George wrote:
On 05/11/2014 06:50, John B. Slocomb wrote:

The major problem with any form of exercise as a weight control
program is that you have to work so hard and so long to lose one Big
Mac and if you have the large fries it gets even worse.

Are the USians in this group aware of the portion sizes in
restaurants/diners over there compared to here? They're enormous.


There was a fascinating series called "The Men Who Made Us Fat."
recently, I think on the BBC. It's all about high calorie foods
appealing to people's taste buds and super sizing to sell more and make
more money.

People just eat to much generally. It's not sufficient to go to the gym
for an hour a few days a week. It takes serious amounts of time and
effort for exercise to have measurable effects - more time and effort
than most people are prepared to put in. The only solution then is to
eat less and eat less high calorie foods.

It's a mind over matter problem. Most people don't realise how little
food they need to eat to lose weight, and don't have the will power to
push through the hunger.

I suppose I'm lucky. None of this seems to affect me.

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JS