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"dkahn400" wrote in message ... On May 7, 6:32 am, "wafflycat" wrote: The long term solution which I'm surprised no-one has mentioned yet may be SPD sandals. Many long distance riders swear by them. I'd second this. On long rides my sandals are infinitely better than my shoes (and being British, when it's chilly, I can wear socks . One other point I'd come back on, I can't wear Specialized shoes, and whilst I do like most Spec BG kit, they're not at all right for my feet and cause me all sorts of problems, maybe because my feet are very narrow - most Shimano boots and, possibly indicatively, the cheap shoes from Lidl are better for me. Best of luck. pOB |
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dkahn400 tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: The long term solution which I'm surprised no-one has mentioned yet may be SPD sandals. Many long distance riders swear by them. And some of them swear *at* them. Perhaps I've just got odd-shaped plates, but the only time I tried 'em, my feet were dead after 5km. This is a bit of a bind when there are still 300 to go :-( -- Dave Larrington http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk My liver is evil, and must be punished. |
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Artemisia tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: Also, clipping and unclipping is a chore. I thought it would get easier. But it can take me several minutes to clip and unclipping can be even longer. The fact of having to press down into the core of the pain to twist the feet off the pedals is part of it. Is this normal? In my not-at-all-extensive experience of using SPDs, yes, this is entirely normal. Well, the clipping-in bit anyway. *Nasty* things. Also, Spesh's so-called "Body Geometry" stuffs are modelled on a body almost, but not quite, entirely unlike mine. I had a pair of such shoes once and suffered similar agonies until I bit the bullet, swallowed the expense and bought a pair of Carnacs. -- Dave Larrington http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk Confirmed LOOK user. |
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Artemisia wrote:
I do have a pair of normal shoes with me. I'm afraid to use them on the trike. I'm finding this is quite a hassle, having shoes that can only walk but not bike, and other shoes that can only bike and not walk! It's not impossible to use SPuD pedals with normal shoes, especially those with an extended platform. And it /should/ be okay to walk moderate distances in tour/MTB style cycle shoes (to the extent where I don't bother taking spare shoes on tour with me). If you can't walk any distance at all without serious discomfort then they're just the wrong shoes, I would say. As with other respondents here, I very much favour SPuD sandals, but one thing to note is that on a 'bent you'll have a lot more weight than most folk on the rear strap. Roos had a bit of achilles trouble from that the first time she had them on a long tour. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Dave Larrington wrote:
In my not-at-all-extensive experience of using SPDs, yes, this is entirely normal. Well, the clipping-in bit anyway. *Nasty* things. Note: I suspect Mr. L is complaining about the specific implementation of the Shimano Pedalling Dynamics (SPD) system, *not* clipless pedals in general. Personally I prefer Time ATACs to SPuDs, and I know other regulars on urc also favour them. Crank Eggbeaters aslo have an enthusiastic following. The Look system is popular with performance cyclists, but getting shoes that take the cleats and enable you to walk easily as well is problematical. ATAC cleats will fit pretty well any shoe that takes SPuDs. What SPuDs have that these other systems don't is ubiquity, with many people equating "SPD" and "clipless pedal system". I've not seen any persuasive argument that they're in any way better than the rest of the market they dominate. Also, Spesh's so-called "Body Geometry" stuffs are modelled on a body almost, but not quite, entirely unlike mine. Haven't tried their shoes since they changed to BG, but the BG saddles seem to be made up to fit backsides almost, but not quite, entirely unlike mine. I had a pair of such shoes once and suffered similar agonies until I bit the bullet, swallowed the expense and bought a pair of Carnacs. You just have to try everything you can. My last shoes were pre-BG Speccies, which I thought were okay but when they eventually died I found Diadoras suited me better. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Quoting Artemisia :
Two days into my trail and I discover the limit is coming from an unexpected place - unbelievably painful feet. IIRC you're on a recumbent trike? Suggest abandoning the clips and tying your feet to the pedals to avoid leg suck - obviously if you're just strapping them down, you can strap them down in a different position. -- David Damerell Distortion Field! Today is First Sunday, May - a weekend. |
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"Dave Larrington" wrote in message ... In , Artemisia tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: Also, clipping and unclipping is a chore. I thought it would get easier. But it can take me several minutes to clip and unclipping can be even longer. The fact of having to press down into the core of the pain to twist the feet off the pedals is part of it. Is this normal? In my not-at-all-extensive experience of using SPDs, yes, this is entirely normal. Well, the clipping-in bit anyway. *Nasty* things. Must admit, I can't get on with spds. Look pedals/cleats are the ones for me. |
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wafflycat wrote:
"Dave Larrington" wrote in message ... In , Artemisia tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: Also, clipping and unclipping is a chore. I thought it would get easier. But it can take me several minutes to clip and unclipping can be even longer. The fact of having to press down into the core of the pain to twist the feet off the pedals is part of it. Is this normal? In my not-at-all-extensive experience of using SPDs, yes, this is entirely normal. Well, the clipping-in bit anyway. *Nasty* things. Must admit, I can't get on with spds. Look pedals/cleats are the ones for me. i've recently got some SPD peddles to go with the specilised shoes i've had for a while and the old 10 speed racer. my knees have never been great far too much yomping down scree slopes as a lad. so needed the springs set too very loose and seems to work fine just now and then they require further stamping to connect but steping out is fine, even on monday when i struck the pedal on the ground, had forgotten road bikes are so low... no damadge done bar minor dent to pride! roger -- www.rogermerriman.com |
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In article , Artemisia wrote:
I do have a pair of normal shoes with me. I'm afraid to use them on the trike. You could consider changing to traditional toeclips with straps, but I have a suspicion that just doing up a strap tight enough that a foot in a recumbent riding position can't possibly fall out will be painfully restrictive given your current problems. Maybe someone with actual experience can comment - it might still be better than going on as you are. (If you nailed traditional cleats to the bottom of your shoes as well, then the traditional clips and straps would be more secure, but then they wouldn't be normal shoes for walking in any more. Assuming they are the sort of shoe you could nail things to the sole in the first place, which they probably aren't) The usual downside of the traditional system is that it's harder to get out of when done up tight than clipless pedals (you have to reach down and loosen the strap first), but since you are on a trike, you won't fall over if you can't put a foot down (which is a good thing, given the problems you are having with the clipless pedals - but that isn't normal). Or try something like these: http://powergrips.mrpbike.com/pg_benefits.shtml But, as other people have said, properly fitting SPD shoes with recessed cleats shouldn't cause the problems you describe and it should be possible to walk in them. |
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In article , Peter Clinch wrote:
you. Also, it sounds like the cleat is in the wrong place, and this needs a bit of fiddling to get right. By "a bit of fiddling" I mean 10 minutes trial and error on and off the bike, nudging them about until they feel right. Start with the cleat as far back as it will go and gradually push them forward, lock them at the right position. But do remember that every time you nudge them, you do have to do them up tight enough that you can unclip without wrenching them out of position when you try them on the pedals. This is probably so obvious to Pete that it went without saying, and maybe is to you as well, but I mention it just in case, because it's quite embarrassing when you forget. I mean, um, so I hear.... |
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