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OT: little tommy not a musician OT: Skippy
On 2/14/2021 5:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 1:33:26 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 2/13/2021 12:24 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/12/2021 9:48 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:28:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/12/2021 2:40 AM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 05:28:15 -0000 (UTC), News 2021 wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:19:18 +0700, John B. scribed: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 21:07:16 -0600, AMuzi wrote: Never wanted one. Inherent to the system, someone always knows your location. Yup, and that is a common subject on the "hand phone" sites. But I've always wondered, "what is someone doing that he/she/it is frightened that others would know where he/she/it is?" Aaah, the question asked by sheep. If I've paid for a phone, I PAID for it and the service. I want it for my use. I d not accept that my data can be consumed by shops sending me messages to buy their crap as I come into range. Did you miss that proposal. Not having your web search results warped to point to a local store that pays, google, et-all for priority listing. Haven't noticed that? Not having your door kicked in by plod because your mobile was recorded in the vicinity of some crime. You must have missed that in the news. Not having your door kicked in by plod because your mobile was recorded in the vicinity of some "person of interest" You must have missed that in the news. At your age you would have observed changes in the law as to acceptable behaviour. some time reciprocity is applied. There are plenty of other reasons why you do not want the government to track you. There are plenty of reasons why you do not want big business to track you. Then, there is the criminal element. If GovCo has the technology, the big business has it and just as sure criminal have the tech. Although "social engineering' still plays a big part in hacking. But what are you doing that you seem reluctant for the government to "track" you? Or Big business for that matter? From your address above you have an account with Wombat and Wombat states that: We need your name and address to do business. We don't sell your name and addresses to anyone. We do keep contact information in databases for correspondence addressing and marketing purposes. So you are leaving a trail simply by posting here. Do you really believe that if the Australian Government wants to know what you have been sending through Wombat that they can't find out? Does your Missus have one of those membership cards handed out by the big department stores. Show your card and get a discount and the computer logs every purchase you make. Do you have a credit card, or debt card? Then every time you use it the location is recorded. Or for that matter the so called "surveillance cameras" now common in most cities. Here a surprising number of crimes are solved solely by the cameras, and there are also "traffic cameras" that will photograph your number plate when you make an illegal turn, or other illegal act. You've had that sort of thing in Australia I know. I distinctly remember being shown traffic cameras" when I was visiting a bloke in Western Australia some years ago. And, of course, if you have a cell phone then every time you come in range of a cell tower your location is known to the telephone system? And of course to the "State" if they want to look. The days of being invisible are long past. Several years ago I heard a radio article about license plate cameras - not fixed ones, but mobile ones on police cars. Later I remember being in traffic behind a cop car with two large cameras conspicuously mounted on its rear deck. (I guess most are much less conspicuous.) According to the article the cop's cameras can scan license plates very quickly as cars pass by, and store the location of the passing car. They can also flag the cop if the plate turns up bad in a database. (That may explain some of the traffic stops I see listed in our paper, where the cops stop people with arrest warrants, etc.) I don't know about cameras in cars, but here, and I assume in other countries as well, there are cameras located, usually at intersections that can photograph a car showing the number plate. I know this as my wife recently received notification in the mail, complete with photograph of her car clearly showing the number plate, of a fine that she must pay for making an illegal turn, right/left? I don't remember. And down at the bottom of the notice was the added statement that "Failure to pay this fine will result in license cancellation". The claim is that not all states have the resulting data on plate locations deleted quickly. In some states, that data is public record. That would open the possibility of (say) a stalker learning a victim's schedule to plan an attack; or a burglar learning when a house is unoccupied, etc. It seems to me that this plate camera system is potentially a bigger threat than the cell phone. And here, and from what I read in many countries there are surveillance cameras which record people just walking down the street. In fact very frequently you read in the local news about someone who committed some crime or another and he was identified by a surveillance caners and they even include a photo. And not only on streets but many stores have surveillance cameras. I remember a case where some English woman was arrested for stealing something from the Duty Free shop at the air terminal. "Nope, she didn't do it! Wasn't her! It was some sort of plot!" so they published the pictures showing her taking the item and later discarding it in a trash container when the store started making a rumpus. . The cell phone location data (for apps, etc.) can purportedly be turned off. The cell towers still know where you are, but accessing that data supposedly requires a court order. And I suppose you could keep the phone turned off, or in a Faraday bag if you didn't trust the courts or the law. I believe that the secret, or at least as portrayed in novels is to only use pay phones located in areas where you would normally never go :-) Or as the Jihad chaps were said to do, pass all information by hand, or face to face. Around here, speed cameras or red light cameras are not illegal, but the political party normally associated with Law & Order has made it as inconvenient as possible for municipalities to use them. That's because every red-blooded American has a constitutional right to exceed the speed limit and run red lights. And if they take out a pedestrian or cyclist, they can always say "I didn't see him" to make it OK. OK, there's a sensible a priori argument to be made. Back here in reality, and I follow Chicago political news, red light camera timing, yellow light duration and placement (which neighborhoods yes and which no) have been very hot issues for some dozen or more years. This over and above several corruption convictions with the various vendors and insiders. Yellow light timing, pursued aggressively, can bump revenues at the cost of loss and injury when rear-end crashes spike- as they have and will. Now with speed cameras, Mayor Munchkin finds herself criticized for location as well as her recent decision('hey we're broke I had to do it') to tighten up the threshold for a robo-ticket. https://chi.streetsblog.org/2021/01/...after-march-1/ I have yet to figure out the red light cameras here. When you have a red light and roll to a stop well short of the crosswalk the cameras will flash as if you did something wrong. They when you have a red light and someone rolls the right turn or goes directly though the red when there's no cross traffic it never flashes. Perhaps the logic in the camera reads the plate, checks the voter registration and then decides whether to report or to invent a violation. Or not. After extended reading of the various Chicago schemes for robot traffic revenue, nothing would surprise me. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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OT: Skippy The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister =Sockpuppets Galore
:-)Â* Nope. Around this town, bike bells are very uncommon. Aside from my family
(whom I've supplied) I can think of only one other member of our club who has one. New Jersey law requires a bell, but that's mostly ignored: 39:4-11 Audible Signal. A bicycle must be equipped with a bell or other audible device that can be heard at least 100 feet away, but not a siren or whistle. https://www.state.nj.us/transportati...gulations.shtm |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll =Sockpuppets Galore
On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 3:10:08 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 07:55:30 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 8:51:47 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:30:17 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 02:05:05 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute wrote: Talking of jet paraffin, I operate our central heating on it because it is cleaner than diesel and requires attention to the filters less often. Before Mr Trump the cost of heating 15 rooms was about a thousand American dollars a month, and after Mr Trump liberated American fuel sources, the price of fuel fell to less than half, so that heating came to about $450 for a month. The minute that senile panderer Biden was elected, the price of fuel shot up again. That little detail of household economics explains why everyone, not just Americans, have an interest in who is the President and what his policies will be. I beg to differ slightly. The price of oil started to drop before Donald Trump was elected president in 2016: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WJFUELUSGULF (Click on "1Y") https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=43735 Prices hit bottom in 2016, when he was elected, and slowly increased after that. Recently, the price of A1 jet fuel again dropped suddenly in about Mar 2020 because of a sudden reduction in jet passenger and cargo flights caused by Covid-19. Airlines were committed to taking delivery on the jet fuel, but had no place to store or consume all of it. So, they unloaded it to anyone who would take it, even at a loss. Much of it went to the shipping industry: "Jet Fuel Is Now So Cheap It’s Being Blended for Use by Ships" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-20/jet-fuel-is-now-so-cheap-it-s-being-blended-for-use-by-ships Now that the backlog in deliveries and storage has somewhat stabilized, prices are again creeping back up. That is kind of interesting as I had thought that all large ships used "bunker fuel" otherwise known as "Heavy Fuel Oil" (HFO) although lower sulphur fuels are coming to the fore with the anti emission rules. But "kerosene" or A1 jet fuel is a very light blend. I also think, although I didn't check, that heavy bunker's have more BTU per unit than lighter fuels. I just did check and heavy bunkers, i.e. residual oils are about 140 - 150,000 BTU per gallon while kerosene/A1 jet fuel is in the 130,000/gallon range. While that sounds like an almost inarguable difference it might be noted that the Emma Mearsk's main engine burns about 14 tons of fuel an hour and the auxiliaries burn an additional 6 tons per hour. (something like 285 gallons = 1 ton :-) So, what was Former President Trump (FPT) doing during this time to reduce jet fuel prices? Nothing that I can find. Attributing the drop in prices to the activities of FPT fails to demonstrate cause and effect. I could just as easily take credit for the price drop by claiming it was caused by me switching from drinking coffee to tea. As an aside, "bunkers" just refers to the fuel used by the ship --whatever type or grade -- and originally referred to the bunkers where coal was stored on steamships. I haven't looked into this, but it would seem to me that the BTUs for HSFO need to be determined net of energy consumed for preheating. Certainly true in part but "bunker fuel" as a designation for the heavy oil fuel for ships is a common term "in the trade". https://www.mordorintelligence.com/i...er-fuel-market https://www.shipandbunker.com/prices...-sin-singapore The tab for filling the tanks on a crappy little bulk carrier can be $500,000 USD, which creates a huge credit risk for owners/head time charterers if they subcharter to a deadbeat who orders fuel and doesn't pay for it. I've had a lot of those cases. That Maersk container ship probably spends $5-6M USD for a fill. -- Jay Beattie. I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. That is the case with a bareboat charter between owners and head time charterers because the owners are basically just investors. It's like buying a hotel and getting someone else to run it. The real action is down stream between head time charterers and sub-charterers and sub-sub-charterers. The vessel is inspected and bunkers measured when the charter is fixed, and inspected again when it goes off-hire. The problem is a deadbeat sub-charter buying fuel on credit and then going belly-up. The bunkering company has a lien against the vessel which the foreclose by arresting the vessel in a favorable jurisdiction, e.g. US of A, and the head time charterer ends up paying the bill and chasing the deadbeat. For example -- one of my cases: http://maritimedenmark.dk/?Id=19212 -- Jay Beattie. |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll = Sockpuppets Galore
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:56:34 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote: On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 3:10:08 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 07:55:30 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 8:51:47 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:30:17 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 02:05:05 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute wrote: Talking of jet paraffin, I operate our central heating on it because it is cleaner than diesel and requires attention to the filters less often. Before Mr Trump the cost of heating 15 rooms was about a thousand American dollars a month, and after Mr Trump liberated American fuel sources, the price of fuel fell to less than half, so that heating came to about $450 for a month. The minute that senile panderer Biden was elected, the price of fuel shot up again. That little detail of household economics explains why everyone, not just Americans, have an interest in who is the President and what his policies will be. I beg to differ slightly. The price of oil started to drop before Donald Trump was elected president in 2016: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WJFUELUSGULF (Click on "1Y") https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=43735 Prices hit bottom in 2016, when he was elected, and slowly increased after that. Recently, the price of A1 jet fuel again dropped suddenly in about Mar 2020 because of a sudden reduction in jet passenger and cargo flights caused by Covid-19. Airlines were committed to taking delivery on the jet fuel, but had no place to store or consume all of it. So, they unloaded it to anyone who would take it, even at a loss. Much of it went to the shipping industry: "Jet Fuel Is Now So Cheap It’s Being Blended for Use by Ships" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-20/jet-fuel-is-now-so-cheap-it-s-being-blended-for-use-by-ships Now that the backlog in deliveries and storage has somewhat stabilized, prices are again creeping back up. That is kind of interesting as I had thought that all large ships used "bunker fuel" otherwise known as "Heavy Fuel Oil" (HFO) although lower sulphur fuels are coming to the fore with the anti emission rules. But "kerosene" or A1 jet fuel is a very light blend. I also think, although I didn't check, that heavy bunker's have more BTU per unit than lighter fuels. I just did check and heavy bunkers, i.e. residual oils are about 140 - 150,000 BTU per gallon while kerosene/A1 jet fuel is in the 130,000/gallon range. While that sounds like an almost inarguable difference it might be noted that the Emma Mearsk's main engine burns about 14 tons of fuel an hour and the auxiliaries burn an additional 6 tons per hour. (something like 285 gallons = 1 ton :-) So, what was Former President Trump (FPT) doing during this time to reduce jet fuel prices? Nothing that I can find. Attributing the drop in prices to the activities of FPT fails to demonstrate cause and effect. I could just as easily take credit for the price drop by claiming it was caused by me switching from drinking coffee to tea. As an aside, "bunkers" just refers to the fuel used by the ship --whatever type or grade -- and originally referred to the bunkers where coal was stored on steamships. I haven't looked into this, but it would seem to me that the BTUs for HSFO need to be determined net of energy consumed for preheating. Certainly true in part but "bunker fuel" as a designation for the heavy oil fuel for ships is a common term "in the trade". https://www.mordorintelligence.com/i...er-fuel-market https://www.shipandbunker.com/prices...-sin-singapore The tab for filling the tanks on a crappy little bulk carrier can be $500,000 USD, which creates a huge credit risk for owners/head time charterers if they subcharter to a deadbeat who orders fuel and doesn't pay for it. I've had a lot of those cases. That Maersk container ship probably spends $5-6M USD for a fill. -- Jay Beattie. I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. That is the case with a bareboat charter between owners and head time charterers because the owners are basically just investors. It's like buying a hotel and getting someone else to run it. The real action is down stream between head time charterers and sub-charterers and sub-sub-charterers. The vessel is inspected and bunkers measured when the charter is fixed, and inspected again when it goes off-hire. The problem is a deadbeat sub-charter buying fuel on credit and then going belly-up. The bunkering company has a lien against the vessel which the foreclose by arresting the vessel in a favorable jurisdiction, e.g. US of A, and the head time charterer ends up paying the bill and chasing the deadbeat. For example -- one of my cases: http://maritimedenmark.dk/?Id=19212 -- Jay Beattie. O.K. I can see how that would work although in my limited experience - mostly leasing tugs and barges - one is very careful about who one leases from, or to for that matter, and certainly the companies we dealt with required substantial advance payment before they would agree to a contract, I assume at least partially for the reason you state. -- Cheers, John B. |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll =Sockpuppets Galore
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:09:59 +0700, John B. scribed:
I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. Perhaps that allowed the chartering company to use the 'best' fuel' available. From another 'marine engineer' I heard a comment that the 'grade' of the fuel can determine the (speed) performance of the ship. He recounted story of a trip to northern Russia where they picked up more fuel, which was of a lighter grade and he described the return trip as "almost flying" compared to their normal pace. So he grade of fuel may be a factor in "time sensitive" cargoes. |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll = Sockpuppets Galore
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:14:25 -0000 (UTC), News 2021
wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:09:59 +0700, John B. scribed: I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. Perhaps that allowed the chartering company to use the 'best' fuel' available. From another 'marine engineer' I heard a comment that the 'grade' of the fuel can determine the (speed) performance of the ship. He recounted story of a trip to northern Russia where they picked up more fuel, which was of a lighter grade and he described the return trip as "almost flying" compared to their normal pace. So he grade of fuel may be a factor in "time sensitive" cargoes. I'm not quite sure how that would work. A ship's speed is directly related to propeller RPM which is directly related to engine RPM and since as far as I know all ship level propulsion engine speed is either mechanically or electrically governed I can't quite see how changing the fuel would effect the speed. Remember you are talking about a hulking great device producing somewhere from 10,000 to 100,000 H.P. which if you break will cost an astronomical amount to repair. -- Cheers, John B. |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll =Sockpuppets Galore
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 11:47:20 +0700, John B. scribed:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:14:25 -0000 (UTC), News 2021 wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:09:59 +0700, John B. scribed: I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. Perhaps that allowed the chartering company to use the 'best' fuel' available. From another 'marine engineer' I heard a comment that the 'grade' of the fuel can determine the (speed) performance of the ship. He recounted story of a trip to northern Russia where they picked up more fuel, which was of a lighter grade and he described the return trip as "almost flying" compared to their normal pace. So he grade of fuel may be a factor in "time sensitive" cargoes. I'm not quite sure how that would work. A ship's speed is directly related to propeller RPM which is directly related to engine RPM and since as far as I know all ship level propulsion engine speed is either mechanically or electrically governed I can't quite see how changing the fuel would effect the speed. Remember you are talking about a hulking great device producing somewhere from 10,000 to 100,000 H.P. which if you break will cost an astronomical amount to repair. IME, every engine performs differently under different fuel. In the experienced outlined to me, they used the better fuel to achieve faster speed. A feature of my engineering education/training was that items are generally designed to be able to operate a higher levels and or with greater resilience. Any gamble is operating at the design limits. |
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The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister = Antiroll = Sockpuppets Galore
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 05:01:26 -0000 (UTC), News 2021
wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 11:47:20 +0700, John B. scribed: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:14:25 -0000 (UTC), News 2021 wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:09:59 +0700, John B. scribed: I'm not in the business but I did know a chap, Marine Engineer, that spent some time surveying crude carriers for charter by his company and I believe that in his case the ships would be chartered "dry", i.e., as a bare ship with, essentially, no fuel aboard. Perhaps that allowed the chartering company to use the 'best' fuel' available. From another 'marine engineer' I heard a comment that the 'grade' of the fuel can determine the (speed) performance of the ship. He recounted story of a trip to northern Russia where they picked up more fuel, which was of a lighter grade and he described the return trip as "almost flying" compared to their normal pace. So he grade of fuel may be a factor in "time sensitive" cargoes. I'm not quite sure how that would work. A ship's speed is directly related to propeller RPM which is directly related to engine RPM and since as far as I know all ship level propulsion engine speed is either mechanically or electrically governed I can't quite see how changing the fuel would effect the speed. Remember you are talking about a hulking great device producing somewhere from 10,000 to 100,000 H.P. which if you break will cost an astronomical amount to repair. IME, every engine performs differently under different fuel. In the experienced outlined to me, they used the better fuel to achieve faster speed. A feature of my engineering education/training was that items are generally designed to be able to operate a higher levels and or with greater resilience. Any gamble is operating at the design limits. True enough, as a mate informed me when the guy at the pump topped off his diesel pickup with gasoline. Yup, a diesel engine will start, and run for a little while on gasoline but another chap had someone poke the diesel nozzle in his gas tank and "fill it up" and nope a gasoline engine doesn't run hardly at all on diesel fuel :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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OT: Skippy The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister =Sockpuppets Galore
On 2/14/2021 6:17 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 16:41:00 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: Speaking of tech: What's the mechanism that they use to give electronic keyboards that feeling of "weight" to the keys? I'll let the experts answer that one. It's rather complicated: Weighted vs Unweighted Keys & More https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVBEp-m5w4 Choosing the Best Musical Keyboard for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xkH1qAbmjA Huh. It surprises me that to replicate the feel of levers and hammers, they (sometimes) choose levers and hammers. I was expecting something more compact and techy - perhaps little solenoids with electronics programmed to give appropriate resistance forces. Or maybe dashpots. I'm glad to see there's still a job for MEs at the Roland company. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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OT: Skippy The Thief Peter Howard = News2021 = Flunkmeister= Sockpuppets Galore
On 2/15/2021 9:58 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/14/2021 6:17 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 16:41:00 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: Speaking of tech: What's the mechanism that they use to give electronic keyboards that feeling of "weight" to the keys? I'll let the experts answer that one. It's rather complicated: Weighted vs Unweighted Keys & More https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVBEp-m5w4 Choosing the Best Musical Keyboard for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xkH1qAbmjA Huh. It surprises me that to replicate the feel of levers and hammers, they (sometimes) choose levers and hammers. I was expecting something more compact and techy - perhaps little solenoids with electronics programmed to give appropriate resistance forces. Or maybe dashpots. I'm glad to see there's still a job for MEs at the Roland company. To film the original Star Trek, several mechanisms were tried to quickly and smoothly open the compartment doors on the Enterprise set- hydraulics, motors, levers, springs. They finally came to two guys, one on each side, to pull them open. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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