A Simple Quiz on London Casualties in 2010

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities?
Correct - cycling at 23% (cf pedestrian at 34%)

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in serious
injuries?
Correct - cycling went up 9% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in KSI figures
during the year?
Correct - cycling up by 8% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport had the greatest increase of all severities of injuries
over the year?
Correct - cyclists had a 9% increase.

How many pedestrian and cycling casualties were there in Greater London during
2010?

Pedestrian : 5391
Cyclists : 4007.

Do you think that there are only 25% more pedestrians than there are cyclists
in Greater London?

No - there are many, many more pedestrians than there are cyclists in Greater
London.




With many thanks to Simple Simon for the pointer.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...ondon-2010.pdf

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Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

Judith wrote:

some cherry picked stuff

Are you the same person who was throwing around
insults when somebody else quoted selectively?

Or was that another hypocrite?

BugBear

On May 19, 1:32*pm, Judith wrote:
Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities?
Correct - cycling at 23% (cf pedestrian at 34%)

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in serious
injuries?
Correct - cycling went up 9% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in KSI figures
during the year?
Correct - cycling up by 8% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport had the greatest increase of all severities of injuries
over the year?
Correct - cyclists had a 9% increase.

How many pedestrian and cycling casualties were there in Greater London during
2010?

Pedestrian : 5391
Cyclists : 4007.

Do you think that there are only 25% more pedestrians than there are cyclists
in Greater London?

No - there are many, many more pedestrians than there are cyclists in Greater
London.

Peds tend to stay safe on the pavement. Why do you think the two
figures are comparable.

Totally meaningless without some comparison of the overall number of
cyclists or cyclist miles travelled in the two periods being compared.

Now, be a dear and FOAD.

MBQ

On May 19, 3:36*pm, "Man at B&Q" wrote:
On May 19, 1:32*pm, Judith wrote:





Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities?
Correct - cycling at 23% (cf pedestrian at 34%)

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in serious
injuries?
Correct - cycling went up 9% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in KSI figures
during the year?
Correct - cycling up by 8% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport had the greatest increase of all severities of injuries
over the year?
Correct - cyclists had a 9% increase.

How many pedestrian and cycling casualties were there in Greater London during
2010?

Pedestrian : 5391
Cyclists : 4007.

Do you think that there are only 25% more pedestrians than there are cyclists
in Greater London?

No - there are many, many more pedestrians than there are cyclists in Greater
London.

Peds tend to stay safe on the pavement. Why do you think the two
figures are comparable.

Totally meaningless without some comparison of the overall number of
cyclists or cyclist miles travelled in the two periods being compared.


She missed this important bit out.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."

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Simon Mason

On Thu, 19 May 2011 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

snip


"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


In total, there were 3,909 cyclists injured in the twelve months ending
September 2010, 10.9 per cent more than the previous twelve months.

Now let's see you produce the figures which show that cycling increased by 10%
over the year.

Simple really - off you go.

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Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

On 19/05/2011 19:29, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT), Simon
wrote:

snip


"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


In total, there were 3,909 cyclists injured in the twelve months ending
September 2010, 10.9 per cent more than the previous twelve months.

Now let's see you produce the figures which show that cycling increased by 10%
over the year.

Here you a 15% from the very report.(but they could have lied)

Pedal cyclists killed or seriously injured
were 18% below the 1994-1998 average,
with an 8% increase in the 12 months
ending December 2010. This overall
increase should be seen in the context of
the considerable increase in cycling over a
number of years, resulting from
encouragement of cycling in London as a
sustainable mode of travel.

Cycling on London’s major roads, the Transport for
London Road Network (TLRN), increased
by150% between 2000 and 2010, and 15%
during 2010 alone.

Fred

On Thu, 19 May 2011 19:39:40 +0100, Fred2 wrote:

snip


In total, there were 3,909 cyclists injured in the twelve months ending
September 2010, 10.9 per cent more than the previous twelve months.

Now let's see you produce the figures which show that cycling increased by 10%
over the year.

Here you a 15% from the very report.(but they could have lied)

snip


Cycling on London’s major roads, the Transport for
London Road Network (TLRN), increased
by150% between 2000 and 2010, and 15%
during 2010 alone.

Fred


So cycling on some very particular routes (ie just London's major roads)
increased by 15% and you seem to think that this showed that cycling overall in
London increased by at least 10%.

Simple - just like Simon.


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Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2011 19:39:40 +0100, Fred2 wrote:

snip


In total, there were 3,909 cyclists injured in the twelve months ending
September 2010, 10.9 per cent more than the previous twelve months.

Now let's see you produce the figures which show that cycling increased
by 10%
over the year.

Here you a 15% from the very report.(but they could have lied)

snip


Cycling on London's major roads, the Transport for
London Road Network (TLRN), increased
by150% between 2000 and 2010, and 15%
during 2010 alone.

Fred


So cycling on some very particular routes (ie just London's major roads)
increased by 15% and you seem to think that this showed that cycling
overall in
London increased by at least 10%.

Simple - just like Simon.


Why is this *always* ****ing London?
There are other parts of this country apart from the great ******** of the
south.

On May 19, 7:29*pm, Judith wrote:

-- * * *
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. *A total disregard for the *well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist. *

Putting stuff like this in your sig
The action of a true psycho

"Judith" wrote in message
...

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in
fatalities?
Correct - cycling at 23% (cf pedestrian at 34%)

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in serious
injuries?
Correct - cycling went up 9% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport was the only one to have an increase in KSI
figures
during the year?
Correct - cycling up by 8% - when all other modes went down

Which mode of transport had the greatest increase of all severities of
injuries
over the year?
Correct - cyclists had a 9% increase.

blah blah blah - there are probably more cyclists than before, therefore
more reported accidents. Much like the statistic that shows males have more
accidents, but fails to recognise that there are more of them driving about.