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Old June 29th 09, 09:16 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
ComandanteBanana
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Default Yes, the Bike Revolution is Coming Soon

(I have the last word below. I guess a Comandante should always have
the last word, right?)

scylla&charybdis wrote:
Florida has a long way to go to making the state bike friendly. It’s
even worse in Orlando. LA had got it right. You can peddle from Santa
Monica to Hermosa Beach along the coast without interuptions. Don’t
understand why Miami can’t figure it out.

Jess wrote:
Tell me about it. Not only can they not figure it out, they also have
the worst drivers in USA...I know Matt Meltzer once wrote that he had
been knocked off his bike and I am paranoid that it will happen to me.
They don’t even SEE you on a bike, I am constantly shouting at drivers
on their dam phone, oblivious to anything around them

***

Some organizing is coming soon. I was talking to another dedicated
friend who’s willing to challenge the roads for a cause.

The thing in Miami is not even the lack of money (as the wasteful bike
path above demonstrates) but as having the political will to connect
the dots, ie. connect the different unconnected bike lanes to each
other.

Of course, it also takes TRAFFIC TAMING, which requires a whip and a
banana…

Just kidding.


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Old June 30th 09, 05:26 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
Edward Dolan
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Default Yes, the Bike Revolution is Coming Soon


"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
(I have the last word below. I guess a Comandante should always have

the last word, right?)

scylla&charybdis wrote:

Florida has a long way to go to making the state bike friendly. It’s
even worse in Orlando. LA had got it right. You can peddle from Santa
Monica to Hermosa Beach along the coast without interuptions. Don’t
understand why Miami can’t figure it out.

Jess wrote:

Tell me about it. Not only can they not figure it out, they also have
the worst drivers in USA...I know Matt Meltzer once wrote that he had
been knocked off his bike and I am paranoid that it will happen to me.
They don’t even SEE you on a bike, I am constantly shouting at drivers
on their dam phone, oblivious to anything around them

Some organizing is coming soon. I was talking to another dedicated

friend who’s willing to challenge the roads for a cause.

The thing in Miami is not even the lack of money (as the wasteful bike

path above demonstrates) but as having the political will to connect
the dots, ie. connect the different unconnected bike lanes to each
other.

Of course, it also takes TRAFFIC TAMING, which requires a whip and a

banana…

Just kidding.


Florida is a freaking mess for cyclists and I never want to ride there again
in my life. But the bike paths (trails) are nice and are the ultimate
solution to cycling in that confounded state!

A good way to get yourself killed is to ride those back roads which are
narrow (no shoulders) and have bumper to bumper high speed traffic on them
both ways. I would just as soon play Russian roulette myself.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




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Old June 30th 09, 03:22 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
theresaboothe
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Default Yes, the Bike Revolution is Coming Soon

We are working at "connecting the dots" and traffic "taming" to
include traffic signals, not a whip. It is all about rank and file.








On Jun 29, 3:16*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
(I have the last word below. I guess a Comandante should always have
the last word, right?)

scylla&charybdis wrote:

Florida has a long way to go to making the state bike friendly. It’s
even worse in Orlando. LA had got it right. You can peddle from Santa
Monica to Hermosa Beach along the coast without interuptions. Don’t
understand why Miami can’t figure it out.

Jess wrote:

Tell me about it. Not only can they not figure it out, they also have
the worst drivers in USA...I know Matt Meltzer once wrote that he had
been knocked off his bike and I am paranoid that it will happen to me.
They don’t even SEE you on a bike, I am constantly shouting at drivers
on their dam phone, oblivious to anything around them

***

Some organizing is coming soon. I was talking to another dedicated
friend who’s willing to challenge the roads for a cause.

The thing in Miami is not even the lack of money (as the wasteful bike
path above demonstrates) but as having the political will to connect
the dots, ie. connect the different unconnected bike lanes to each
other.

Of course, it also takes TRAFFIC TAMING, which requires a whip and a
banana…

Just kidding.

BIKE FOR PEACE CAMPAIGNhttp://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace/

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
The 3 C's of successful monkeys... Communicate, Coordinate, Cooperate.

*http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution


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Old June 30th 09, 06:19 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
ComandanteBanana
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Default Do cars really suck?

On Jun 30, 10:22*am, theresaboothe
wrote:
We are working at "connecting the dots" and traffic "taming" to
include traffic signals, not a whip. *It is all about rank and file.


Good, please do it quickly because the situation sucks --and smells
too...

(This Diane sent me this contribution that is the MOST POWERFUL
ACCOUNT of the situation we face on our roads)

Hi Diane, this a TRULY MOVING account of the CAR INDUSTRY.

And I'd add that not only they suck... they also stink.

NOTE: I will post it around, something I'm sure the author would agree
with.

Thanks a million!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++
Do cars really suck?

by Michael Smith


Sounds pretty sweeping, doesn't it? Cars suck. Does that mean all cars
suck? That nobody should ever build or drive a car? That all the roads
should be ripped up and replaced with bike paths?

Of course not. What sucks is car dependence -- car worship -- car
tyranny -- car violence. In short, the whole tangle of pathology
(thanks, Professor Senator Moynihan) in which we North Americans find
ourselves as a result of the one-sided way we've developed our car
infrastructure and systematically gutted all the other possibilities.
You might say that what sucks is the near-terminal case of car
poisoning from which our society suffers.

Well, you ask, why not say that, instead of this inflammatory and
categorical abuse of cars in general?

For most North Americans, there is (as yet) no Car Question. It's safe
to say that the wisdom of more paving, more parking, more driving is
not (yet) widely questioned; nor is there even any awareness that it
might be questioned. Moreover, on the cultural plane, the car is still
the fetish object par excellence, the utterly fraudulent emblem of
personal liberation, as that concept is understood -- that is,
systematically twisted and robbed of real meaning -- in our culture of
consumption. The car is not an incubus by nature, to be sure; but it
has become an incubus by virtue of its hegemony, both in our physical
environment and in our emotional universe.

The idea, then, of this site's name is to call attention to the horns,
the hooves, and the barbed tail of the incubus; to serve notice, even
if we cannot (yet) make everybody see those appurtenances of
diabolism, that there are those of us who do see them; to plant, if
nothing else, the seed of a doubt that the car, as we know it, is a
benevolent force.

We are up against strongly entrenched ideas and attitudes here,
reinforced by the entire apparatus of the persuasion industry. Even to
appear on the cultural radar screen, under these circumstances,
requires us to do something startling.

More startling, one might think, than simply saying that cars suck.
And yet, and yet... We recall, in hope, the story of the Emperor who
had no clothes. The sage counselors, the noble lords and ladies, the
solid citizens and, of course, the Emperor himself, were all convinced
that the beautiful new clothes were real. Yet all it took was one
honest voice calling attention, with transparent sincerity, to the
Emperor's unlovely nakedness, and the whole machinery of collective
delusion ground to a halt.

It is that note of plain, blunt, heartfelt sincerity that we are
trying to strike here. Car poisoning has made the writer of these
words, and the other contributors to these pages, sick -- sick of
cars. We're sick of hearing them honk and rev their engines
expressively; sick of dodging them; sick to death of what they have
done to our countryside and our cities equally; sick of the horrifying
slaughter they create in our society year in and year out, and sick of
the casual equanimity with which this slaughter is accepted. We are
sick of what they have done to our social institutions and our sense
of place, and sick of the insensate worship that these Molochs, these
Juggernauts, receive. In short, we feel, strongly, that cars... suck.

Maybe if there were a tenth as many, and they were a tenth as
powerful, and nobody had to own one, we'd feel differently. Let's
find out.
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Old June 30th 09, 09:03 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
ComandanteBanana
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I think a good Comandante not only should have the last word, but also
actually hear what the people is saying, and how can you know that if
you don't ask?

This guy asks precisely that question, and gets an answer that I can
relate to...

QUESTION

Hello Portland pro-cyclist community! I’m seeking the input from
riders (and riders who’d like to talk with their wanna-be cycling
friends) about what they think will encourage more riders and types of
riders to bike more often and to more destinations. Possible reasons
might be:
1. not comfortable/confident riding (2 million cars, 20 dogs, some
railroad tracks, etc.)
2. bike not working well or feels painful to ride
3. fear of a flat tire along the way
4. clothing issues
5. ??
Why am I interested in knowing? I’m planning to start a project that
will fill identified unmet needs in the areas of bicycle repair,
handling skills, confidence, and general camaraderie. Hearing your
impressions will really help.

***

ANSWER

Cleaner bike lanes (glass, trash, reflector bits, landscape debris,
etc);

Better car drivers (as in, use the turn signals, watch for other
traffic, pay attention to the action of driving);

Bike paths that actually go somewhere and hook up with other bikes
paths (instead of the disjointed few miles of off-street paths we
currently have, i.e. the Fanno Creek Trail), and are safe to use;

More bike lanes, or bike lanes that continue instead of peter out, or
at the very least, wider shoulders (or a shoulder at all);

And, my least barrier to biking mo flats or other mechanical woes.
I think I can handle a flat, but more than that and I think I'd be in
trouble.

What would fix that last barrier, is of course, taking class or
something. And the barrier to that is, of course, time!

http://bikeportland.org/forum/archiv...hp?t-1106.html

 




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