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May 27th 20, 10:13 AM
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On 26/05/2020 23.16, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/26/2020 2:11 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 18:37:24 +0200, Rolf Mantel wrote: The data on excess mortality has the very nice advantage that it removes all wrong diagnosis from the game. Please, play with https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm a bit: In California, COVID-19 has been similar to the 17-18 Flu, in Florida or DC even weaker. But in the US overall, the COVID-19 excess is around 70,000 compared to 15,000 at the 17-18 Flu. You better not look at New York State, Massachusets, or even New Jeresy where the excess was 150% over normal or New York City where the excess reached 300% over normal. Look again. NYC was about 600% above normal. At the same time, NY State was about 125% above normal. New York seem to be the worst. Go thee unto the aforementioned URL. Select a Dashboard - Excess deaths with and without COVID-19 - Update Dashboard Select Jurisdiction - New York The excess deaths are in dark blue. Drag the mouse over the peak and it will show about 125% excess deaths. However, that's for New York State with New York City excluded from the data. The "Figure Notes" below the graph proclaims: "Data for New York excludes New York City" So NYC is tabulated separately. Select a Dashboard - Excess deaths with and without COVID-19 - Update Dashboard Select Jurisdiction - New York City Drag the mouse over the peak. The info box shows excess deaths at 596.7% to 649.5%. I imagine Tom will say all those people who died were just volunteers participating in the big hoax. The ultimate sacrifice. They should all be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 100,000 and counting. Going to need a lot of scrap metal for those medals. 
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#73
May 27th 20, 10:20 AM
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On 27/05/2020 03.17, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:36 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? There is a place for those who sit around, think and read papers. I do not deny Fauci that much. But he is not working in the real world as many other epidemiologists are and they often interview them on FOX and they ALL say what I've been saying. There isn't much you can do about a pandemic with a linear growth rate. I see. You want to be advised on how to protect yourself from a viral epidemic by an epidemiologist via Fox News. I don't think that's what you intended to say, but that's what you wrote. You also seem to have changed your position on Dr Fauci from: "Dr. Fauci of the CDC(sic) who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about." to: "I do not deny Fauci that much." That's quite a change from calling the leading expert on infectious diseases in the US an incompetent, to not denying him something you didn't bother to specify. Of course, you're entitled to have an opinion about anyone and anything, but I'm also entitled to discount your opinion as rubbish. Anyway, kindly stabilize your opinion about Dr Fauci. If it's critical, please provide the name of someone in the US that is equally or more qualified to advise on how to handle a pandemic. Well the president of course, he's a world renown stable genius, has a natural ability at healthcare and surprises even himself on how much he knows about COVID-19. Incidentally, I could probably provide some names in China that are substantially more qualified and equally experienced, but such experts would not be considered as candidates for advising our president, who knows more than any or all of them, Here's one candidate that might have qualified had he not resigned for having is bureau eliminated by the Trump administration: "A top pandemic expert is leaving the Trump administration amid the coronavirus crisis" https://www.businessinsider.com/top-pandemic-expert-leaving-the-trump-administration-amid-coronavirus-2020-5 No bicycle related content this time. Sorry(tm). Pendix drives and Bullitt cargo bikes, a match made in a very nice place, like Tommys brain. Sort of warm, woolly, fluffy, with a soupçon of bird song twittering in the trees.
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#74
May 27th 20, 10:54 AM
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On Wed, 27 May 2020 10:13:01 +0100, Tosspot
wrote: On 26/05/2020 23.16, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 5/26/2020 2:11 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 18:37:24 +0200, Rolf Mantel wrote: The data on excess mortality has the very nice advantage that it removes all wrong diagnosis from the game. Please, play with https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm a bit: In California, COVID-19 has been similar to the 17-18 Flu, in Florida or DC even weaker. But in the US overall, the COVID-19 excess is around 70,000 compared to 15,000 at the 17-18 Flu. You better not look at New York State, Massachusets, or even New Jeresy where the excess was 150% over normal or New York City where the excess reached 300% over normal. Look again. NYC was about 600% above normal. At the same time, NY State was about 125% above normal. New York seem to be the worst. Go thee unto the aforementioned URL. Select a Dashboard - Excess deaths with and without COVID-19 - Update Dashboard Select Jurisdiction - New York The excess deaths are in dark blue. Drag the mouse over the peak and it will show about 125% excess deaths. However, that's for New York State with New York City excluded from the data. The "Figure Notes" below the graph proclaims: "Data for New York excludes New York City" So NYC is tabulated separately. Select a Dashboard - Excess deaths with and without COVID-19 - Update Dashboard Select Jurisdiction - New York City Drag the mouse over the peak. The info box shows excess deaths at 596.7% to 649.5%. I imagine Tom will say all those people who died were just volunteers participating in the big hoax. The ultimate sacrifice. They should all be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 100,000 and counting. Going to need a lot of scrap metal for those medals. At May 27, 2020, 03:41 GMT it was 100,572 deaths and 1,144,734 sick. -- cheers, John B.
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#75
May 27th 20, 03:34 PM
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On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? That would be Tom.
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#76
May 27th 20, 04:42 PM
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On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 7:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:36 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? There is a place for those who sit around, think and read papers. I do not deny Fauci that much. But he is not working in the real world as many other epidemiologists are and they often interview them on FOX and they ALL say what I've been saying. There isn't much you can do about a pandemic with a linear growth rate. I see. You want to be advised on how to protect yourself from a viral epidemic by an epidemiologist via Fox News. I don't think that's what you intended to say, but that's what you wrote. You also seem to have changed your position on Dr Fauci from: "Dr. Fauci of the CDC(sic) who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about." to: "I do not deny Fauci that much." That's quite a change from calling the leading expert on infectious diseases in the US an incompetent, to not denying him something you didn't bother to specify. Of course, you're entitled to have an opinion about anyone and anything, but I'm also entitled to discount your opinion as rubbish. Anyway, kindly stabilize your opinion about Dr Fauci. If it's critical, please provide the name of someone in the US that is equally or more qualified to advise on how to handle a pandemic. Incidentally, I could probably provide some names in China that are substantially more qualified and equally experienced, but such experts would not be considered as candidates for advising our president, who knows more than any or all of them, Here's one candidate that might have qualified had he not resigned for having is bureau eliminated by the Trump administration: "A top pandemic expert is leaving the Trump administration amid the coronavirus crisis" https://www.businessinsider.com/top-pandemic-expert-leaving-the-trump-administration-amid-coronavirus-2020-5 No bicycle related content this time. Sorry(tm). -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 The leading expert? Jeff, that is about the most foolish thing that you could say. Fauci is NOT an expert. Sitting around in hallowed halls of government does NOT make you an expert. The epidemiologists in the field say the opposite and that you like some sort of moron deny that they know anything for the simple reason that they are interviewed on FOX shows that you are nothing more than some stupid biased punk.
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#77
May 27th 20, 04:45 PM
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 7:34:32 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? That would be Tom. https://vivomix.com/2020/05/08/dr-an...ts-fact-check/
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#78
May 27th 20, 04:51 PM
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On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 8:28:14 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
In today's news: https://cyclingindustry.news/third-o...ds-cycling-uk/ Which could happen, But it won't. Similarly, Wharton yesterday projected a quarter million US Wuhan Virus deaths. Which also could happen, unlikely though that may be. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 https://vivomix.com/2020/05/08/dr-an...ts-fact-check/ While there are many ifs, ands and buts, the clearly substantiated claims that Fauci and the CDC was profiting on supposed "cures" that were not properly tested is not open to argument.
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#79
May 27th 20, 04:58 PM
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 7:34:32 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? That would be Tom. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...g_policy.html#! https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/...commendations/ Fauci first touts Vitamin C and D theropy and then when Trump suggests it due to hospital evidence that it helps he reverses his own statements. What else is new? Oh, that's right some SOB posting on a bicycle group tells us that Trump doesn't know what he is talking about and that Fauci who has sat on his butt for 37 years now is the world's leading expert. Let's see the results of your elections along with Cruella Pelosi.
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#80
May 27th 20, 05:29 PM
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On 5/27/2020 11:42 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 7:17:19 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:36 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have a very low respect for doctors because so few of them want to be competent. Top of the list in that category is Dr. Fauci of the CDC who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about. Dr Fauci has been director of the NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) since 1984. He does NOT work for the CDC. NIAID is part of the NIH (National Institute of Health). He's has been involved with controlling several previous epidemics, which I presume qualifies as experience: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/anthony-s-fauci-md-bio https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/niaid-history Can you provide the name of someone in the US who is better qualified to discuss pandemics than Dr Fauci? There is a place for those who sit around, think and read papers. I do not deny Fauci that much. But he is not working in the real world as many other epidemiologists are and they often interview them on FOX and they ALL say what I've been saying. There isn't much you can do about a pandemic with a linear growth rate. I see. You want to be advised on how to protect yourself from a viral epidemic by an epidemiologist via Fox News. I don't think that's what you intended to say, but that's what you wrote. You also seem to have changed your position on Dr Fauci from: "Dr. Fauci of the CDC(sic) who has continually acted an expert at things he knows very little about." to: "I do not deny Fauci that much." That's quite a change from calling the leading expert on infectious diseases in the US an incompetent, to not denying him something you didn't bother to specify. Of course, you're entitled to have an opinion about anyone and anything, but I'm also entitled to discount your opinion as rubbish. Anyway, kindly stabilize your opinion about Dr Fauci. If it's critical, please provide the name of someone in the US that is equally or more qualified to advise on how to handle a pandemic. Incidentally, I could probably provide some names in China that are substantially more qualified and equally experienced, but such experts would not be considered as candidates for advising our president, who knows more than any or all of them, Here's one candidate that might have qualified had he not resigned for having is bureau eliminated by the Trump administration: "A top pandemic expert is leaving the Trump administration amid the coronavirus crisis" https://www.businessinsider.com/top-pandemic-expert-leaving-the-trump-administration-amid-coronavirus-2020-5 No bicycle related content this time. Sorry(tm). -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 The leading expert? Jeff, that is about the most foolish thing that you could say. Fauci is NOT an expert. Sitting around in hallowed halls of government does NOT make you an expert. The epidemiologists in the field say the opposite and that you like some sort of moron deny that they know anything for the simple reason that they are interviewed on FOX shows that you are nothing more than some stupid biased punk. Your homework, Tom: !) Find or assemble a CV for Dr. Anthony Fauci. I say that because you obviously know very, very little about him. 2) Find or assemble a CV for the guy you allude to whom Faux News managed to dig up. Analyze and compare those to prove to us that your guy with his predictable complaints is more qualified than Fauci. We'll even give bonus points for a little more work: 3) Give us your own CV. Show us why we should listen to your opinions on epidemiology... and history, genetics, theology, ballistics, human anatomy, politics, engineering, medicine, sociology, geology, meteorology, technology, etc. You know - all the other things about which you, as a high school dropout, claim to be much smarter than hundreds of trained, experienced, and recognized experts. -- - Frank Krygowski
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