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Old August 16th 08, 07:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
David Lowther
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle on ?

I guess the answer is going to be "It depends. The only way to be sure is
check the definitive map", but I thought I'd ask anyway.

One I'm interested in starts at ST 657 349. I think it's part of the Wyke's
cheese farm / factory near Castle Cary in Somerset.

TIA

Dave.



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Old August 16th 08, 09:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Aug 16, 3:23 pm, "David Lowther"
wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle on ?

I guess the answer is going to be "It depends. The only way to be sure is
check the definitive map", but I thought I'd ask anyway.

One I'm interested in starts at ST 657 349. I think it's part of the Wyke's
cheese farm / factory near Castle Cary in Somerset.


Almost always ok IME. And even if not legal, no-one is going to
complain on a "white road" route like that - it is not like you could
be doing any damage.

It's a long time since I was involved, but IIRC these sort of routes
were widely used in trailquest events. Of course in that case the
organisers will have specific knowledge...but my point is that they
generally seem to be OK and well-used by cyclists (when the organisers
had arranged specific permission for a route just for the event, that
was highlighted as a special case).

James
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Old August 16th 08, 09:38 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
David Hansen
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:23:58 +0100 someone who may be "David
Lowther" wrote this:-

Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle on ?


I guess that the key is the words "with public access". You are a
member of the public and you are accessing it.

In Scotland it would not come up, because the freedom to roam law is
stronger here.




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Old August 16th 08, 11:33 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Andy Pike
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wrote in message
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On Aug 16, 3:23 pm, "David Lowther"
wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle on
?

I guess the answer is going to be "It depends. The only way to be sure is
check the definitive map", but I thought I'd ask anyway.

One I'm interested in starts at ST 657 349. I think it's part of the
Wyke's
cheese farm / factory near Castle Cary in Somerset.


Almost always ok IME. And even if not legal, no-one is going to
complain on a "white road" route like that - it is not like you could
be doing any damage.




Yep - even if illegal, then it's OK for a cyclist not to have to worry about
that.



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Old August 16th 08, 02:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Paul Boyd[_4_]
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

On 16/08/2008 11:33, Andy Pike said,

Uh-oh. Are you judith in disguise or do we have our very own new troll?

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Old August 16th 08, 04:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
judith
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:06:29 +0100, Paul Boyd
wrote:

On 16/08/2008 11:33, Andy Pike said,

Uh-oh. Are you judith in disguise or do we have our very own new troll?


No - it must be me - there can't be more that one person drawing
attention for ****wits.




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Old August 17th 08, 09:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:23:58 +0100, David Lowther
wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle
on ?


Firstly, AIUI, it would not be illegal, in the sense of being a criminal
offence, to cycle on them. Where a footpath runs across a field you have a
right to walk on it, but no right to cycle on it. The landowner must keep
it clear to walk on, but can make it difficult to cycle on.

The "other routes with public access" that I've seen have all had signs at
each end saying what's allowed. I've seen two variations to normal rights
of way: time dependent access e.g. "motor vehicles allowed 1 May - 3 Sep";
and access rights that don't fit the normal categories, specifically
"horse drawn vehicles allowed".

I've never seen one that banned cyclists, so I'm pretty sure you'll be all
right.

Rob
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Old August 19th 08, 01:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Jon
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Default Bikes on OS "Other route with public access" ?

On 16 Aug, 07:23, "David Lowther"
wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of whether the tracks / roads shown on OS
Landranger maps as "Other route with public access" are legal to cycle on ?

I guess the answer is going to be "It depends.


Most of them are little-used or unused county roads and so in theory
are open to all traffic.

In practice many of these are roads which fell out of use when motor
vehicles became common (often because alternative routes were
surfaced) and because they were not marked on OS maps until recently
were not much used a paths by ramblers. In consequence some have been
unused for years and some may be in very poor condition or may not be
visible on the ground.

Jon
 




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