Jef D'Hont

Tonight a program on doping in cycling on Belgian TV. Not very good - Pound
got the opportunity to say all his half-truth with nobody conradicting him -
and almost nothing new (Emma O'Reilly, Landis, etc.). The only news was what
ex-soigneur Jef D'Hont was saying about his Telekom-years (1996-97). For
instance he said that Erik Zabel refused to take EPO (I think he was the
only one). Bjarne Riis was the exact opposite (surprise, sursprise), but
D'Hond also told that once Riis had a hematocrite level of 64 %! Apparently
the nickname "Mister 60 %" doesn't give Riis his due. D'Hond also said that
Riis was suffering from terrible side effects, like some kind of rheumatism,
which was so serious and painful that he hardly move his hands. I think we
all agree that a rider who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was
willing to suffer like that, risking his life and his health simultaneously,
really deserved to win.

Benjo

On Mar 25, 6:29 pm, "benjo maso" wrote:
I think we
all agree that a rider who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was
willing to suffer like that, risking his life and his health simultaneously,
really deserved to win.

Benjo

With all due respect Benjo, I disagree. The rider who would have been
best if they were all clean deserved to win. Do you respect Zabel less
because he took a different path and didn't risk his health in the
same way? (I'm not saying Zabel was a GC contendor)

Bret

"benjo maso" wrote in message
...
Tonight a program on doping in cycling on Belgian TV. Not very good -
Pound
got the opportunity to say all his half-truth with nobody conradicting
him -
and almost nothing new (Emma O'Reilly, Landis, etc.). The only news was
what
ex-soigneur Jef D'Hont was saying about his Telekom-years (1996-97). For
instance he said that Erik Zabel refused to take EPO (I think he was the
only one). Bjarne Riis was the exact opposite (surprise, sursprise), but
D'Hond also told that once Riis had a hematocrite level of 64 %!
Apparently
the nickname "Mister 60 %" doesn't give Riis his due. D'Hond also said
that
Riis was suffering from terrible side effects, like some kind of
rheumatism,
which was so serious and painful that he hardly move his hands. I think we
all agree that a rider who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was
willing to suffer like that, risking his life and his health
simultaneously,
really deserved to win.

Benjo


Thats it, Zabel is my hero. I hope that he rides the Sixes for a few more
years so that I may have a chance to see him in action.

Tonight a program on doping in cycling on Belgian TV. Not very good -
Pound got the opportunity to say all his half-truth with nobody
conradicting him - and almost nothing new (Emma O'Reilly, Landis, etc.).
The only news was what ex-soigneur Jef D'Hont was saying about his
Telekom-years (1996-97). For instance he said that Erik Zabel refused to
take EPO (I think he was the only one). Bjarne Riis was the exact opposite
(surprise, sursprise), but D'Hond also told that once Riis had a
hematocrite level of 64 %! Apparently the nickname "Mister 60 %" doesn't
give Riis his due. D'Hond also said that Riis was suffering from terrible
side effects, like some kind of rheumatism, which was so serious and
painful that he hardly move his hands. I think we all agree that a rider
who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was willing to suffer like
that, risking his life and his health simultaneously, really deserved to
win.

Benjo


The more I read and hear about Zabel, the more I like the guy.

Riis? Nothing new there. I assume you're being sarcastic.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
et...
Tonight a program on doping in cycling on Belgian TV. Not very good -
Pound got the opportunity to say all his half-truth with nobody
conradicting him - and almost nothing new (Emma O'Reilly, Landis, etc.).
The only news was what ex-soigneur Jef D'Hont was saying about his
Telekom-years (1996-97). For instance he said that Erik Zabel refused to
take EPO (I think he was the only one). Bjarne Riis was the exact
opposite (surprise, sursprise), but D'Hond also told that once Riis had a
hematocrite level of 64 %! Apparently the nickname "Mister 60 %" doesn't
give Riis his due. D'Hond also said that Riis was suffering from terrible
side effects, like some kind of rheumatism, which was so serious and
painful that he hardly move his hands. I think we all agree that a rider
who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was willing to suffer like
that, risking his life and his health simultaneously, really deserved to
win.

Benjo


The more I read and hear about Zabel, the more I like the guy.

Riis? Nothing new there. I assume you're being sarcastic.

Yes, of course, but not quite. I have some grudging admiration for such a
burning detremination. Besides, I understand better Riis' uncompromising
attitude to everything connected to doping in his own team. I always thought
it was rather hypocrite.But it probably isn't. Nobody knows better how
dagnerous and destructive the use of products like epo can be.

Benjo

"Bret" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 25, 6:29 pm, "benjo maso" wrote:
I think we
all agree that a rider who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was
willing to suffer like that, risking his life and his health
simultaneously,
really deserved to win.

Benjo

With all due respect Benjo, I disagree. The rider who would have been
best if they were all clean deserved to win. Do you respect Zabel less
because he took a different path and didn't risk his health in the
same way? (I'm not saying Zabel was a GC contendor)


Of course, I was a little sarcastic.

Benjo

What channel was this on? Is this program available online somewhere?







J. Spaceman




On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:29:34 +0200, "benjo maso"
wrote:

Tonight a program on doping in cycling on Belgian TV. Not very good - Pound
got the opportunity to say all his half-truth with nobody conradicting him -
and almost nothing new (Emma O'Reilly, Landis, etc.). The only news was what
ex-soigneur Jef D'Hont was saying about his Telekom-years (1996-97). For
instance he said that Erik Zabel refused to take EPO (I think he was the
only one). Bjarne Riis was the exact opposite (surprise, sursprise), but
D'Hond also told that once Riis had a hematocrite level of 64 %! Apparently
the nickname "Mister 60 %" doesn't give Riis his due. D'Hond also said that
Riis was suffering from terrible side effects, like some kind of rheumatism,
which was so serious and painful that he hardly move his hands. I think we
all agree that a rider who wanted to win the Tour so badly that he was
willing to suffer like that, risking his life and his health simultaneously,
really deserved to win.

Benjo

On Mar 25, 8:29 pm, "benjo maso" wrote:
D'Hond also said that
Riis was suffering from terrible side effects, like some kind of rheumatism,
which was so serious and painful that he hardly move his hands.
Benjo

Joint pain is a side effect of human growth hormone. When it's used
in patient or study populations this is often the reason people
discontinue it's use.

"Jason Spaceman" wrote in message
...
What channel was this on? Is this program available online somewhere?


I dont know if it's available online. I haven't found it. It was on Canvas
and it was called "Een positief verhaal" ("A Positive Story"). The
`positive' part of the story was that the programme makers demonstrated that
Belgian riders in general and Flemish riders in particular are as "clean" as
can be.

Benjo

benjo maso wrote:
I dont know if it's available online. I haven't found it. It was on Canvas
and it was called "Een positief verhaal" ("A Positive Story"). The
`positive' part of the story was that the programme makers demonstrated that
Belgian riders in general and Flemish riders in particular are as "clean" as
can be.

Now all they need do is clean up the dogs.