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cfsmtb wrote:
Freight? Logistics? Unless there is a immediate shift to returning Australia's freight requirements back to rolling stock, we could be potentially in for a very rude shock regarding food prices. So why don't food producers grow stuff closer to the population centers?? How about your back yard? Or your front yard for that matter. My wife has been studying nutrition as part her master's in ed. One of the factors leading to high levels of obesity is the high cost of fresh food vs cheap processed foods. Then the quality of the fresh fruit and veg is deteriorating too, and we can't afford to buy all organic. So last week I finally got around to laying out a vege garden. Rhubarb, cucumber, capsicum and silverbeet to start with We already have various herbs and lettuce in with the flowers. It craps me when people with V8s complain about the cost of fuel. Now I am beginning to think that people with gardens who whinge about the cost of food are much the same. |
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On 2006-08-15, Donga (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Bleve wrote: If we get a little smart about transport, and anticipate the consequences of the (all too foreseable, alas ... but people *are* stupid) choices made re where we live, how we get to places we want to go, where we send our kids to school etc, then it's actually not so bad. The kids can ride their bikes to wherever they want to go, unless it's stupidly far away, in which case, the consequences of unsustainable choices are going to smack the people that have made those choices, and they have no-one to blame but themselves. Unfortunately houses within cooee of the kids' school start at $1 million for a dump. Why go to that school then? Public schools could really do with some investment, and the best way to do that would be if more students attended them (figures released last week was the trends showed there would be no more students left in pulic schools in a year that I can't remember because I was too sleepy, but seem to recall being 2012). The best way to do that would be if everyone who didn't live within 2km of a rich private school actually sent their children to their local school instead of ferrying their precious spawn all over the place. I live 12 minutes drive away on a good run. I can ride it in 18 and do when it's just me and I don't need to be 'dressed'. It's not a safe ride for my kids, nor could they do it practically with the varying hours and the gear they need. Sorry, but I don't think the world has changed that fundamentally in the past 15 years. I could do it 15 years ago, why not your kids? Sure there are choices in all this. I could use the local high and primary schools, for demonstrably worse educational outcomes. They wouldn't be worse if there weren't so many people thinking like you. You are demonstrably quite happy paying the premium on a good education -- send them to the local school and donate it some money ontop of their regular fees (with the condition that they do not look more favourably upon your kids through rose tinted glasses when it comes time to giving end of year reports). -- TimC -o) /\\ The penguins are coming... _\_v the penguins are coming... |
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On 2006-08-15, alison_b (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Donga Wrote: Bleve wrote: When it hits $10 a litre, what will you do? Seriously, this problem is not going to go away. The world *will* change. That's obvious enough. Wishing for it to happen is still mean and nasty. Like many people we are economising to afford what is important, and some of the changes will get less and less fun. My hope is that the kids' sports will become better organised... currently the travel involved in getting kids to games is ridiculous, sometimes driving for twice the time the game actually takes It's not a good use of resources, and means instead of the youngsters having, say, 3 hours of possible activity, they spend 2 hours sitting in a car. Bring back local leagues!!! Why send them to aggressive contact sports by car at all? Allow them to count cycling towards their school sport outcomes (god I wish I didn't have to play basketball and football against my wishes), and then the act of cycling is both sport, and commute to sporting "facility"! -- TimC Vodka, barbeque, pizza, beer - which is essential for the post-modern coder? "You are forgettink caffeine, comrade." -- Pitr Dubovich/User Friendly |
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Wrote: cfsmtb wrote: Freight? Logistics? Unless there is a immediate shift to returning Australia's freight requirements back to rolling stock, we could be potentially in for a very rude shock regarding food prices. So why don't food producers grow stuff closer to the population centers?? How about your back yard? Or your front yard for that matter. Been doing that, here's last summer effort: http://www.flickr.com/photos/5103553...ardenpixjan06/ This early spring, the front yard looks like a broadbean & rocket factory. Other stuff: shallots, lime & apricot trees, lettuce, endives, peas, broccoli, spinach, chard, early potatoes. Up the back: carrots, bok choy, garlic, parsley, chicory, more spinach, peas & various herbs. More stuff to be planted soon for spring/summer. -- cfsmtb |
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"cfsmtb" wrote in message ... Been doing that, here's last summer effort: http://www.flickr.com/photos/5103553...ardenpixjan06/ ****, that IS impressive |
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BrettS Wrote: The nerd/mechanic/inventor/tinkerer in me still thinks that a HPV/electric hybrid is the go. Battery charged by a wind turbine (I live near the coast), or a solar farm in my tornado ravaged back yard. The cost to run an electric vehicle is not the cost of the electricity to charge the batteries, it is the cost of replacing the batteries every 1-5 years. The cost of manufacturing / recycling the batteries is probably linked to the price of the diesel fuel used to transport them around. -- ghostgum |
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TimC Wrote: Why send them to aggressive contact sports by car at all? Allow them to count cycling towards their school sport outcomes (god I wish I didn't have to play basketball and football against my wishes), and then the act of cycling is both sport, and commute to sporting "facility"! -- TimC Vodka, barbeque, pizza, beer - which is essential for the post-modern coder? "You are forgettink caffeine, comrade." -- Pitr Dubovich/User FriendlyGood point. I remember hating basketball in PE class to the point of intentionally screwing up layup drills so the ball rebounded thirty metres down court. I eventually did play it for a season or two at school, but I agree that more focus on activity rather than sport may have a positive effect on both general activity levels of young adults as well as sport participation. -- deejbah |
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"TimC" wrote in message ... On 2006-08-15, (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: It craps me when people with V8s complain about the cost of fuel. Now I am beginning to think that people with gardens who whinge about the cost of food are much the same. Did you mean "without" there? Sentence parses but doesn't compile, otherwise. Er, he's saying that people who have large yards, but don't use them to grow veges and fruit, **** him off when they complain about the cost of food (?) |
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Claude wrote: Er, he's saying that people who have large yards, but don't use them to grow veges and fruit, **** him off when they complain about the cost of food (?) Umm, yeah. What he said. I should have said "yard" rather than "garden". |
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