OT Is anyone really surprised?

On Jan 16, 1:07*pm, William Asher wrote:
Donald Munro wrote:
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
As a start, know that just because I don't attach smiley faces and
"just kidding" onto the more "ranty rhetoric" posts that I
occasionally make, doesn't mean you shouldn't consider the tone and
style when you wish to be more sober about my less sober moments.

Actually I put your more "ranty rhetoric" posts through babelfish
into French and then back into English. It increases the entertainment
value although it doesn't do much for the sobriety moments.

That is so weird because I do a similar thing: *I read posts using a phony
French accent. *


lol

"It might just as well be French." -- BF

Mark Fennell wrote:

William Asher wrote:
Robert said:
People would like you better if you told them what they want to hear.
Just
in case you care.

That sounds familiar. Is that another one of Franklin's?

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about. And the earlier part about the lady
giving you the sexual-harassment talk was good too.



I try to stay on message even when I am off topic.

--
Bill Asher

Bill C wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:27 am, "Sandy" wrote:
Dans le message ,
Bill C a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :





On Jan 16, 8:04 am, Bill C wrote:
Hey Howard
Here are my primary news sources, then let's have yours.
Desktop RSS
NOAA Weather
Weather Channel
BBC
Agence France Press
Foxnews
Guardian (UK)
FoxSports
CBC (CA)
CNN
first off the bench:
CNews (CA)
(local stuff)
Arabnews.com
AlJazeera.net (.com is something else again. Really everything
Aljazeera is accused of, but not connected to the big one)
Reason
NYT
MoveOn.org
HuffingtonPost
WeeklyStandard
National Review
Cyclingnews.com
Velonews.com
ESPN.com
SI.com
BBC Sport
http://bostondirtdogs.com(This connects to a Red Sox front that
links to the Boston Globe, Herald, Providence and Hartford papers. I
usually read only the Boston stuff)
and various I use to a lesser extent.
DailyKos
and other stuff
Newsletters from:
(all the NE cycling groups)
Military.com
HonestReporting
Obama
Edwards
Clinton
several right wing nutcase groups (You can't make that stuff up, it's
priceless)
I get tons of non news magazines; outdoor, sporting, and computer
stuff.
I realize this is a totally unbalanced, and questionable group that
must be why I'm so uninformed. One thing that both sucks, and is great
about being broken is you get to sit here and read everything in
sight, and follow stories up in a bunch of different sources.
Please feel free to suggest more,though I probably get to them
occasionally already.
Bill C
Does the list shrink when you get on a bike? You do get on a bike, right?
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
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Sandy I've actually only ridden a couple of times in months. It really
boils down to a choice of doing the job I enjoy which is a lot of hard
physical labor, unfortunately not aerobic, and riding. Doing any
physical activity these days is a serious tradeoff/balancing act
between, pain, pain meds, and functionality. Just walking around the
house, first thing in the AM is a project most days, especially if
I've been working fairly hard.
Riding actually set off the latest batch of headaches. After I had
the left knee done again, and left shoulder I felt pretty good, got in
a few good months of riding, and the right knee and my back which is a
chronic mess that I haven't let them fuse yet both went to ****. Been
fighting that, and other injuries since then. Should've had the knee
done months ago and gotten back at it. Dr. wanted to try "resting" it.
Don't know how I'm supposed to rest it while building houses though.
Gonna get thimgs back on the MRI/Surgery track again on the 29th.
I'd say on a good day I might make 50%, most are in the 20-30% range,
even with meds.
Even when I'm pretty busy I'll still squeeze in an hour or two of
internet time, and read until I fall asleep every night. Lots of
nights I'm up at 3:30 am for the day 'cause I can't sleep.
Not much fun with a body that's junk. Need to take off a hundred
pounds too, but the only options really are swimming, and water-
aerobics. I really don't like either much. I'd lost 20 this spring and
it's all back.
Bill C


I haven't been following your travails, Bill. I remember you were
having problems, but didn't realize just how bad they've become.
Hope the docs can get you back in reasonable shape.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

On Jan 15, 3:46*pm, Bill C wrote:


I STILL have a problem with the people we are currently supporting
over there, even if the methods they use are traditional, common, and
accepted for that region.


Dumbass -


We should not be trying to dictate to other countries what their
values should be. Just as they should not dictate to us.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Jan 16, 3:30*pm, SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:


As a start, know that just because I don't attach smiley faces and
"just kidding" onto the more "ranty rhetoric" posts that I
occasionally make, doesn't mean you shouldn't consider the tone and
style when you wish to be more sober about my less sober moments.
Failure to do so puts you in a class with french lawyers. *Don't do it
for me -- do it for yourself.

There're some people I almost alway miss the humor with. I've got NO
problem with thinking good things about people like you and Howard do.
I think the vast mass of people are pretty much blank, or in the
middle just waiting to be led. This can either be really good as in
the civil rights fight here and Dr. King, or a disaster, as it seems
to be most of the time. It's a whole lot easier to see the immediate
benefit to yourself when taking things from people, not so much when
giving. Makes it much easier for leaders to grab and take, and lead
the mob to do it.
That's what I see as the flaw in what I think you want. Same flaw I
see in the lefts program, except part of their program is to destroy
anyone successful and take what they have. There's absolutely no
incentive in their system to do anything but the minimum, or at best
the average. It's dragging everyone to the lowest common denominator
and calling it success.
That pretty much sums up history IMO, everything revovles around that
and the fear of death in the long run.
I don't think it's the best way towards progress, but I have no
problem at all with the socialism as practiced in western Europe, it's
worked fairly well, at least where there's resources to create wealth
to support it. That should be what's happening in Venezuela under
Chavez, but he's doing what most of the other scum have and is using
fine sounding rhetoric as propaganda while ****ing the country's
wealth away. How about living up to Venezuela's resources for their
people. That I could live with. What he's really doing is the same
thing every petty tyrant in history has done. Him, Castro, and the
rest have a hell of alot more in common with people like Baby Doc,
Marcos, and Stalin.
Bill C

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
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On Jan 15, 3:46 pm, Bill C wrote:

We should not be trying to dictate to other countries what their
values should be. Just as they should not dictate to us.

And yet you support the UN......

On Jan 16, 2:46*pm, Bill C wrote:

*... I have no problem at all with the socialism as practiced
in western Europe, it's worked fairly well, at least where
there's resources to create wealth to support it.


The mores I was taught included not taking things that don't belong to
you. I believe there are practical/pragmatic reasons for such
mores.

But make sure not to put such a concept in stone at a public
courthouse -- it might have a restraining influence on judges.

On Jan 16, 5:41*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jan 15, 3:46*pm, Bill C wrote:



I STILL have a problem with the people we are currently supporting
over there, even if the methods they use are traditional, common, and
accepted for that region.

Dumbass -

We should not be trying to dictate to other countries what their
values should be. Just as they should not dictate to us.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

I guess I'm more warm and fuzzy than you. Ramming it down their throat
is useless, and counterproductive. Trying to convince people that
genocide, wholesale torture, brutal human rights violations are bad is
a good thing. The only chance we've got is education. Slow and steady
with positive rewards for good behavior, and in the absolute worst
cases intervention.
I'd toss Rhwanda, and Sudan in that category and not much else.
Bill C

On Jan 16, 4:44*pm, Bill C wrote:
On Jan 16, 5:41*pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:





On Jan 15, 3:46*pm, Bill C wrote:

I STILL have a problem with the people we are currently supporting
over there, even if the methods they use are traditional, common, and
accepted for that region.

Dumbass -

We should not be trying to dictate to other countries what their
values should be. Just as they should not dictate to us.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

I guess I'm more warm and fuzzy than you. Ramming it down their throat
is useless, and counterproductive.



Dumbass -


We're ramming it down their throat.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

William Asher wrote:

Last post on this since I have lost interest and I don't care if you
understand what I am saying anymore.


Thank you! Now I finally understand why I post so little. I usually
reach this state before I finish reading most posts.