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Jail Zuckerberg
On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 8:34:47 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:12:26 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 5:54 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:05:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 1:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? Of course everybody has a right to an opinion. But it's nonsense to say that all opinions are equally valid. The astonishing fact here is that Tom routinely portrays himself as having "experience and education" leading to more knowledge than anyone else, whether he's talking about medicine, history, theology, genetics, physics, economics, politics, biology, engineering, bicycles or brake fluid. All that despite dropping out of high school, getting no post-secondary education and being unable to hold any one job for more than three years. I think that perhaps the problem is the definition of "opinion". After all the dictionary has it that "opinion" is "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty". Based on that interpretation then all opinions are equal in the sense that "all men are created equal" Sorry, I can't buy that. For one thing, Jefferson may have written that all men are _created_ equal, in the sense of their inherent rights. But I doubt he would have said that all men have equal wisdom, knowledge, skill, etc. And based on that, I doubt he would say all opinions are equal. I believe there are opinions that ought to be judged erroneous even if absolute disproof is still pending. In fact, isn't the notion that "my" opinions are better then "your" opinions because I went to school, or I ride a bicycle, or I'm a Republican or I'm a Democrat just another way of saying "Well, I'm better than you because..."? But I do believe that certain people are better than certain other people. I'm too conservative to say that what you do or don't do has no effect on your personal value. Well, if you want to get into the foibles of the Constitution it is probably true that when the writers proclaims that "all men are created equally" they meant only white, Protestant, folks and certainly not black folks, nor Catholic folk for that matter :-) And there was enough debate about that to result in actual wording in the constitution the 3/5 compromise. But as I said, opinions are simply "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty" and you are trying to claim that somehow education or knowledge effects them. It most certainly does. Your opinion is framed by your life experience. Your education is an integral component of that. Every opinion is valid, the difference is if you can rationally defend it. To that point, kunich and jute has yet to be able to defend any of their opinions rationally. In that context, their opinions (especially those opinions they incorrectly call facts) are of considerably less value than the vast majority of others appearing in this forum. It isn't due to their level of education, but their individual aggregated life experience. But is it true? I would refer you to the three Abrahamic religions, all of whom claim to worship the same God and all slaughter each other in the name of that God. Again, opinions incorrectly called facts. |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 2:05:43 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/26/2021 1:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? Of course everybody has a right to an opinion. But it's nonsense to say that all opinions are equally valid. The astonishing fact here is that Tom routinely portrays himself as having "experience and education" leading to more knowledge than anyone else, whether he's talking about medicine, history, theology, genetics, physics, economics, politics, biology, engineering, bicycles or brake fluid. All that despite dropping out of high school, getting no post-secondary education and being unable to hold any one job for more than three years. -- - Frank Krygowski +1 |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On 2/26/2021 7:12 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/26/2021 5:54 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:05:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 1:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? Of course everybody has a right to an opinion. But it's nonsense to say that all opinions are equally valid. The astonishing fact here is that Tom routinely portrays himself as having "experience and education" leading to more knowledge than anyone else, whether he's talking about medicine, history, theology, genetics, physics, economics, politics, biology, engineering, bicycles or brake fluid. All that despite dropping out of high school, getting no post-secondary education and being unable to hold any one job for more than three years. I think that perhaps the problem is the definition of "opinion". After all the dictionary has it that "opinion" is "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty". Based on that interpretation then all opinions are equal in the sense that "all men are created equal" Sorry, I can't buy that. For one thing, Jefferson may have written that all men are _created_ equal, in the sense of their inherent rights. But I doubt he would have said that all men have equal wisdom, knowledge, skill, etc. And based on that, I doubt he would say all opinions are equal. I believe there are opinions that ought to be judged erroneous even if absolute disproof is still pending. In fact, isn't the notion that "my" opinions are better then "your" opinions because I went to school, or I ride a bicycle, or I'm a Republican or I'm a Democrat just another way of saying "Well, I'm better than you because..."? But I do believe that certain people are better than certain other people. I'm too conservative to say that what you do or don't do has no effect on your personal value. Better in some ways perhaps, surely lesser in others. There are a gazillion criteria for 'better'. Yes, every man may have his own opinion while you are similarly entitled to your opinion of him and his positions. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On 2/26/2021 8:34 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:12:26 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 5:54 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:05:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 1:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? Of course everybody has a right to an opinion. But it's nonsense to say that all opinions are equally valid. The astonishing fact here is that Tom routinely portrays himself as having "experience and education" leading to more knowledge than anyone else, whether he's talking about medicine, history, theology, genetics, physics, economics, politics, biology, engineering, bicycles or brake fluid. All that despite dropping out of high school, getting no post-secondary education and being unable to hold any one job for more than three years. I think that perhaps the problem is the definition of "opinion". After all the dictionary has it that "opinion" is "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty". Based on that interpretation then all opinions are equal in the sense that "all men are created equal" Sorry, I can't buy that. For one thing, Jefferson may have written that all men are _created_ equal, in the sense of their inherent rights. But I doubt he would have said that all men have equal wisdom, knowledge, skill, etc. And based on that, I doubt he would say all opinions are equal. I believe there are opinions that ought to be judged erroneous even if absolute disproof is still pending. In fact, isn't the notion that "my" opinions are better then "your" opinions because I went to school, or I ride a bicycle, or I'm a Republican or I'm a Democrat just another way of saying "Well, I'm better than you because..."? But I do believe that certain people are better than certain other people. I'm too conservative to say that what you do or don't do has no effect on your personal value. Well, if you want to get into the foibles of the Constitution it is probably true that when the writers proclaims that "all men are created equally" they meant only white, Protestant, folks and certainly not black folks, nor Catholic folk for that matter :-) It's certainly true that the fundamental concepts of American democracy evolved over time. The original idea was not that every Tom, Dick & Harry should get an equal say. (Let alone Thomasina, Rikki and Harriet.) I suppose we could discuss which of those changes were beneficial and which were detrimental. But as I said, opinions are simply "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty" and you are trying to claim that somehow education or knowledge effects them. Of course! As an example, say a new comet is sighted in the sky. An isolated indigenous Amazonian may have an opinion about the comet's source and composition. So may a trained astrophysicist. There may be uncertainty in both opinions, but that doesn't mean each is equally valid. But is it true? I would refer you to the three Abrahamic religions, all of whom claim to worship the same God and all slaughter each other in the name of that God. Even that doesn't prove all opinions are valid. I'd say it better illustrates that there will always be people who get things wrong. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On 2/27/2021 9:04 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/26/2021 7:12 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: But I do believe that certain people are better than certain other people. I'm too conservative to say that what you do or don't do has no effect on your personal value. Better in some ways perhaps, surely lesser in others. There are a gazillion criteria for 'better'. Probably. And I'd say not all criteria are equally valid, or equally valuable. Society seems to agree even while it quibbles over the details. "That dude is better than _anyone_ at breaking into bike shops and stealing bunches of bikes!" -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:05:58 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education. "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." - Harlan Ellison Look at those morons John, Flunky and clueless Newsless. They claim I don't know anything about a subject and then when I reply with my qualification, they say I'm bragging or lying. Please append my name to the list of those who find both your opinions and qualifications to be rather dubious. Your inability to substantiate or corroborate any of you claims or provide sources or references is sufficient to demonstrate the problem. You've been caught contriving numbers to suit your agenda several times. You have never bothered to directly debate these matters. Usually, you just change the subject. 40 acres for the average farm size is one example that comes to mind. Even Jeff who claims to be in the engineering game is saying things so far out of line that I have grave doubts for him. "Out of line"? What line? What things? What doubts? Incidentally, your new resume looks much better but still could use some cleanup: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/ Perhaps fill in some detail on what you did at Diablo Research. Diablo was allegedly purchased by Cadence Design Systems in Jan 1999 according to the link your provided: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/diablo-research-co-llc Yet, the Wikipedia entry for Cadence does not show the aquisition of Diablo. What happened? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadence_Design_Systems#Acquisitions The Jan 1999 date is probably wrong as announcements were released in Nov 1999. Maybe include something about the RF/wireless design stuff that Diablo was doing. https://www.eetimes.com/cadence-to-buy-diablo-research-to-expand-design-services-in-wireless-arena/# Seventeen-year-old Diablo is expected to complement Cadence's services in such areas as Bluetooth and HomeRF (radio-frequency) technology, as well as new capabilities in telemetry, global-positioning satellite (GPS) solutions, and personal wireless products. No need to thank me. -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:30:26 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: Perhaps fill in some detail on what you did at Diablo Research. Diablo was allegedly purchased by Cadence Design Systems in Jan 1999 according to the link your provided: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/diablo-research-co-llc Yet, the Wikipedia entry for Cadence does not show the aquisition of Diablo. What happened? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadence_Design_Systems#Acquisitions The Jan 1999 date is probably wrong as announcements were released in Nov 1999. Maybe include something about the RF/wireless design stuff that Diablo was doing. https://www.eetimes.com/cadence-to-buy-diablo-research-to-expand-design-services-in-wireless-arena/# Seventeen-year-old Diablo is expected to complement Cadence's services in such areas as Bluetooth and HomeRF (radio-frequency) technology, as well as new capabilities in telemetry, global-positioning satellite (GPS) solutions, and personal wireless products. Digging deeper, I find that Diablo was part of Tality at the time of purchase. From the Cadence 2001 annual report: https://www.cadence.com/content/dam/cadence-www/global/en_US/documents/company/investors/annual-reports/annual-report-01.pdf Pg 36: Acquired Intangibles Write-Offs In reaction to the current decline in business conditions generally and the wireless communications industry in particular, Cadence restructured certain of its businesses and realigned resources to focus on profit contribution, high-growth markets and core opportunities. As a result, Cadence recorded a charge of $25.8 million in 2001 related to the impairment of goodwill and acquired intangibles associated with the acquisition of Diablo (a part of Tality). Key factors in this write-off were significant downsizing or reassignment of personnel directly related to these assets and abandonment of most of Diablo's line of business. The charge was determined as the amount by which the carrying value of the intangible assets associated with Diablo's acquisition exceeded the fair value of those assets. Pg 70: Diablo Research Company LLC In December 1999, Cadence acquired all of the outstanding stock of Diablo Research Company LLC for $39.9 million in cash in a transaction accounted for as a purchase. Diablo is a high-technology engineering services company with expertise in wireless communication, global positioning satellite solutions and data transfer and home automation markets. In connection with the acquisition, Cadence acquired intangibles of $40.9 million, which are being amortized over three years. In 2001, Cadence recorded a charge of $25.8 million related to the impairment of acquired intangibles associated with Diablo. See "Restructuring, Asset Impairment and Unusual Items Ì Acquired Intangibles Write-Off." In other words, Cadence bought Diablo for $39.9 million and maybe 1 year later takes a $25.8 million write-off on the purchase. Since the economy was in bad shape in 2001, the write-off and layoffs are not surprising. I can see now why you left Cadence off the resume. I just noticed another duplicate entry. You have Tality listed from Mar 1997 to Dec 2001, as well as Diablo Research 1997 to 2001. Since Tality owned Diablo, you should probably make these one job instead of two. While you're doing damage control, permit me to remind you for the 3rd or 4th time to change "Windows XT" to "Windows XP" in the BioElectroMed section. It may seem trivial but to a computah geek like me, it's sacrilege. Again, no need to thank me, although it is getting to be a bit of a time burner researching your former employers. -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:36:51 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? If your argument cannot convince, it may well be a poor argument or your own technique and manner. It may also be ignorant stubbornness which you just can't help at any rate. Such is life. There is absolutely no way to convince absolute ignorance that they are wrong. Their argument can only be summed in the simple statement "You're wrong". From that point they will spend the next 300 years attacking you for having the temerity of pointing out the truth to them. As to the attacks, I couldn't care less, but they purposely destroy the point of a discussion board with their fruitless and mindless attacks. |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 12:03:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 2/26/2021 8:34 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:12:26 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 5:54 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:05:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/26/2021 1:36 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? Of course everybody has a right to an opinion. But it's nonsense to say that all opinions are equally valid. The astonishing fact here is that Tom routinely portrays himself as having "experience and education" leading to more knowledge than anyone else, whether he's talking about medicine, history, theology, genetics, physics, economics, politics, biology, engineering, bicycles or brake fluid. All that despite dropping out of high school, getting no post-secondary education and being unable to hold any one job for more than three years. I think that perhaps the problem is the definition of "opinion". After all the dictionary has it that "opinion" is "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty". Based on that interpretation then all opinions are equal in the sense that "all men are created equal" Sorry, I can't buy that. For one thing, Jefferson may have written that all men are _created_ equal, in the sense of their inherent rights. But I doubt he would have said that all men have equal wisdom, knowledge, skill, etc. And based on that, I doubt he would say all opinions are equal. I believe there are opinions that ought to be judged erroneous even if absolute disproof is still pending. In fact, isn't the notion that "my" opinions are better then "your" opinions because I went to school, or I ride a bicycle, or I'm a Republican or I'm a Democrat just another way of saying "Well, I'm better than you because..."? But I do believe that certain people are better than certain other people. I'm too conservative to say that what you do or don't do has no effect on your personal value. Well, if you want to get into the foibles of the Constitution it is probably true that when the writers proclaims that "all men are created equally" they meant only white, Protestant, folks and certainly not black folks, nor Catholic folk for that matter :-) It's certainly true that the fundamental concepts of American democracy evolved over time. The original idea was not that every Tom, Dick & Harry should get an equal say. (Let alone Thomasina, Rikki and Harriet.) I suppose we could discuss which of those changes were beneficial and which were detrimental. But as I said, opinions are simply "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty" and you are trying to claim that somehow education or knowledge effects them. Of course! As an example, say a new comet is sighted in the sky. An isolated indigenous Amazonian may have an opinion about the comet's source and composition. So may a trained astrophysicist. There may be uncertainty in both opinions, but that doesn't mean each is equally valid. But is it true? I would refer you to the three Abrahamic religions, all of whom claim to worship the same God and all slaughter each other in the name of that God. Even that doesn't prove all opinions are valid. I'd say it better illustrates that there will always be people who get things wrong. You keep shying away from the definition of opinion which is " "opinion" is "a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty": And your statement that difference in religious belief illustrates that "there will always be people who get things wrong" would be, heresy to a majority of the world's population. -- Cheers, John B. |
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Jail Zuckerberg
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:01:32 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:36:51 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 2/26/2021 12:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: "The major failing of the social media is that people with no experience and no education believe that they have a right to an opinion as valid as those that do have experience and education." Yes, they do indeed. You got a problem with that? If your argument cannot convince, it may well be a poor argument or your own technique and manner. It may also be ignorant stubbornness which you just can't help at any rate. Such is life. There is absolutely no way to convince absolute ignorance that they are wrong. Their argument can only be summed in the simple statement "You're wrong". From that point they will spend the next 300 years attacking you for having the temerity of pointing out the truth to them. As to the attacks, I couldn't care less, but they purposely destroy the point of a discussion board with their fruitless and mindless attacks. You are absolutely right Tommy Boy and people have been demonstrating your absolute ignorance and that you are wrong since you first posted in the Internet.... and yet you continue happily posting ignorant statements and insulting anyone that demonstrates your errors. -- Cheers, John B. |
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