Big Sur Update

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...xed-by-summer/

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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:46:45 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...xed-by-summer/

Wow, are they going to fill the gap with spray foam? $11.5M seems pretty cheap for replacing a mountainside and roadway.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:57:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:46:45 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...xed-by-summer/

Wow, are they going to fill the gap with spray foam? $11.5M seems pretty cheap for replacing a mountainside and roadway.

You're not up on highway construction methods. We had the same thing on Redwood Rd. And they drilled sideways into the mountain side then put concrete pillars both horizontal and vertical and lade a VERY heavy concrete roadway. I expected to see movement around this area but while on either side within 300 yards there is motion, there is absolutely no movement at all at what used to be a total washout. And STILL they are taking no actions about the heavy trucks using that road which is a "no trucks" road which caused the original failure. They did the same thing on Palomares road though it wasn't as difficult since the road there washed out above the road and they only had to build the road up down to the creek bed 30 feet below and strengthen the slide area above. Wonderful stuff reinforced concrete.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:15:36 -0800, Tom Kunich scribed:

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:57:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:46:45 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...-near-big-sur-
expected-to-be-fixed-by-summer/

Wow, are they going to fill the gap with spray foam? $11.5M seems
pretty cheap for replacing a mountainside and roadway.

You're not up on highway construction methods. We had the same thing on
Redwood Rd. And they drilled sideways into the mountain side then put
concrete pillars both horizontal and vertical and lade a VERY heavy
concrete roadway. I expected to see movement around this area but while
on either side within 300 yards there is motion, there is absolutely no
movement at all at what used to be a total washout. And STILL they are
taking no actions about the heavy trucks using that road which is a "no
trucks" road which caused the original failure. They did the same thing
on Palomares road though it wasn't as difficult since the road there
washed out above the road and they only had to build the road up down to
the creek bed 30 feet below and strengthen the slide area above.
Wonderful stuff reinforced concrete.

Only if it is used the right way.

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:15:38 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:57:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:46:45 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...xed-by-summer/

Wow, are they going to fill the gap with spray foam? $11.5M seems pretty cheap for replacing a mountainside and roadway.
You're not up on highway construction methods. We had the same thing on Redwood Rd. And they drilled sideways into the mountain side then put concrete pillars both horizontal and vertical and lade a VERY heavy concrete roadway. I expected to see movement around this area but while on either side within 300 yards there is motion, there is absolutely no movement at all at what used to be a total washout. And STILL they are taking no actions about the heavy trucks using that road which is a "no trucks" road which caused the original failure. They did the same thing on Palomares road though it wasn't as difficult since the road there washed out above the road and they only had to build the road up down to the creek bed 30 feet below and strengthen the slide area above. Wonderful stuff reinforced concrete.

You can spend $2M on an EIS. Or $6M on a bike bridge, e.g. https://www.portland.gov/sites/defau...lity_study.pdf. $11M for that project seems like wishful thinking.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 2/25/2021 7:43 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 4:15:38 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:57:11 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:46:45 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/hig...xed-by-summer/

Wow, are they going to fill the gap with spray foam? $11.5M seems pretty cheap for replacing a mountainside and roadway.
You're not up on highway construction methods. We had the same thing on Redwood Rd. And they drilled sideways into the mountain side then put concrete pillars both horizontal and vertical and lade a VERY heavy concrete roadway. I expected to see movement around this area but while on either side within 300 yards there is motion, there is absolutely no movement at all at what used to be a total washout. And STILL they are taking no actions about the heavy trucks using that road which is a "no trucks" road which caused the original failure. They did the same thing on Palomares road though it wasn't as difficult since the road there washed out above the road and they only had to build the road up down to the creek bed 30 feet below and strengthen the slide area above. Wonderful stuff reinforced concrete.

You can spend $2M on an EIS. Or $6M on a bike bridge, e.g. https://www.portland.gov/sites/defau...lity_study.pdf. $11M for that project seems like wishful thinking.

-- Jay Beattie.


Real US Dollars or 'California Dollars'?

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ts-for-project

"...insisted that they are on pace to meet a preliminary
2022 federal deadline for laying track along the first
segment..."

First segment? Wow, 'starting to lay track' after only $80.3
billion over six years is pathetic.

Out here in the real world, $80,300,000,000.00 is real
money. In California it's merely a 'demonstration project'
with no use, benefit or even any functional aspect. I note
also that even at this late date no one is claiming any plan
to actually connect to SF or to LA which was the original
scheme.



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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:24:22 -0600, AMuzi scribed:


First segment? Wow, 'starting to lay track' after only $80.3 billion
over six years is pathetic.

Not is that has been spent on land acquisition or right to.


Out here in the real world, $80,300,000,000.00 is real money. In
California it's merely a 'demonstration project'

That is pretty much anywhere built up.