Cyclist :0 Lamppost: 1

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439

On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439

The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).

On 17/07/2015 17:59, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439


The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).


A CTC survey in Nov. 2013 found that 19 percent of cyclists were over
the drink drive limit.

On 17/07/2015 18:45, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 17/07/2015 17:59, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439



The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).


A CTC survey in Nov. 2013 found that 19 percent of cyclists were over
the drink drive limit.

What, 24/7?

On 17/07/2015 20:52, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 18:45, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 17/07/2015 17:59, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439




The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).


A CTC survey in Nov. 2013 found that 19 percent of cyclists were over
the drink drive limit.

What, 24/7?

Presumably.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:45:05 +0100, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439

The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.
Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Or a filler.

--
A child is for life, not just for benefits.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:45:29 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:

On 17/07/2015 17:59, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439


The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).


A CTC survey in Nov. 2013 found that 19 percent of cyclists were over
the drink drive limit.

The drink drive limit is way too low.

--
Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 00:09:06 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:

On 17/07/2015 20:52, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 18:45, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 17/07/2015 17:59, JNugent wrote:
On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439




The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian? They're all just local colour and
background, helping to boost the word count of the story to the length
wanted by the sub-editor.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident (which, incidentally, is
estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for intoxication).


A CTC survey in Nov. 2013 found that 19 percent of cyclists were over
the drink drive limit.

What, 24/7?

Presumably.

It's a requirement to operate the momentum effect with the wheels.
--
Where would we be without rhetorical questions?

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:35:07 +0100, Adia wrote:

JNugent wrote:

On 17/07/2015 09:45, Adia wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...t-dies-9670439

The young man, in his 20's, who has sadly died after crashing his
bicycle into a lamppost is reported to have "frequented the Holly Tree
pub in Addlestone". What young guy doesn't frequent a local pub?
Unless he had frequented the pub just prior to this incident, that
information is about as relevant as us being told about his habits
regarding visits to Tesco and any other retail business in the
locality.

Unless it is an established fact that the cyclist was under the
influence of alcohol when the fatal accident occured, reporting
details of a pub that he was known to have drunk in is nothing but a
shameful, snide remark.

Is there a difference between reporting his frequenting of the pub and
(say) reporting that he was a keen and active member of the Ramblers'
Association or a dedicated Rotarian?

Local pub drinker cycles into a lamppost. Keen and active member of
the Ramblers' Association cycles into a lamppost. Dedicated Rotarian
cycles into a lamppost. Doesn't one of those reportings sound as
though it may possibly be more self-inflicted than the other two?

They're all just local colour and background, helping to boost the word
count of the story to the length wanted by the sub-editor.

If his family and friends see it that way then everything is fine.

I can't see that the report even implies that the cyclist was the worse
for alcohol at the time of the incident...

But a snide remark would be derogatory or mocking in an indirect way.

...(which, incidentally, is estimated at 19:20 - hardly the peak hour for
intoxication).

That is what I thought. Then I thought why bring up that he frequents
a local pub, as though that was something out of the ordinary and
worthy of mention? Mentioning it at all just seems a bit unnecessary
to me.

But, then again, I have read the repeated postings in this group of
what a large percentage of cyclists are over the drink drive limit and
maybe I am just being over sensitive in my wish to see that the
cyclist in this case is treated fairly.

yes, after all it could be the lamppost's fault.

--
If you mated a bulldog and a ****su, would it be called a bull****?

On Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:48:33 UTC+1, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

The drink drive limit is way too low.

The DD limit in England and Wales is the highest in the world - think again.