$2,000,000,000,000 nightmare

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/op...on&oref=slogin

Jobst Brandt

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and the relevance to cycling is......?

pk

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and the relevance to cycling is......?

pk

Cyclists ride bikes, not start wars for oil conglomerates?

On Mar 4, 1:22 pm, wrote:
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Jobst Brandt

I thought it was gonna be $50b, tops?

Don't forget the near million dead and the 3m displaced! But what's a
trill here or there when Iran is finally starting to play footsie?
More tea? Fig? Blood sausage?

Someone afraid of revealing his identity sniped:


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and the relevance to cycling is......?

You may stick your head in the sane, so to speak, but the effect on
the earth on which we live is formed by this situation. The whole
world! Your quip is an indication that you don't see the effect on
the welfare of your country, the countries of the world, and in the
long run everything anyone might want to do in life.

Jobst Brandt

On Mar 4, 7:44*pm, wrote:
Someone afraid of revealing his identity sniped:

*http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/op...l?_r=1&ref=opi...

and the relevance to cycling is......?

You may stick your head in the sane, so to speak, but the effect on
the earth on which we live is formed by this situation. *The whole
world! *Your quip is an indication that you don't see the effect on
the welfare of your country, the countries of the world, and in the
long run everything anyone might want to do in life.

Jobst Brandt

Oh, my goodness, Jobst!

I disagree with you about Iraq, but that disagreement is dwarfed by my
disagreement with the apocalyptic importance you attach to it, or any
other political issue, for that matter. Luke 21:5-19 says it all. I
know it seems so unglaublich: e.g. "......some of you will be put to
death.........yet not a hair of your head will be harmed...." What
seeming non-sense! But yet exactly such mysteries provide the
strength to look with equanimity (but not indiffference) at wars and
rumors of wars, and all the injustices that surround us on every
side. I have my problems with Islam, but a bumper sticker I saw on a
car with a license plate that read "Hajj _" was one I could certainly
relate to: "God is in charge.....believe it or not". When you can be
bumped off any minute by the next car that goes past your bike, why
worry about political threats?

One benefit of our long bike rides is the great opportunity it gives
to see the brighter side of things, as you have so readily shared in
your many reports!

aka Jobst Brandt wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/op...on&oref=slogin

I thought the estimate had been recently revised to be on the order of
$3x10^12?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Ron Wallenfang wrote:
On Mar 4, 7:44 pm, wrote:
Someone afraid of revealing his identity sniped:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/op...l?_r=1&ref=opi...

and the relevance to cycling is......?
You may stick your head in the sane, so to speak, but the effect on
the earth on which we live is formed by this situation. The whole
world! Your quip is an indication that you don't see the effect on
the welfare of your country, the countries of the world, and in the
long run everything anyone might want to do in life.

Jobst Brandt

Oh, my goodness, Jobst!

I disagree with you about Iraq, but that disagreement is dwarfed by my
disagreement with the apocalyptic importance you attach to it, or any
other political issue, for that matter. Luke 21:5-19 says it all. I
know it seems so unglaublich: e.g. "......some of you will be put to
death.........yet not a hair of your head will be harmed...." What
seeming non-sense! But yet exactly such mysteries provide the
strength to look with equanimity (but not indiffference) at wars and
rumors of wars, and all the injustices that surround us on every
side. I have my problems with Islam, but a bumper sticker I saw on a
car with a license plate that read "Hajj _" was one I could certainly
relate to: "God is in charge.....believe it or not". When you can be
bumped off any minute by the next car that goes past your bike, why
worry about political threats?

One benefit of our long bike rides is the great opportunity it gives
to see the brighter side of things, as you have so readily shared in
your many reports!

On the other hand, the money could be put to good use in repairing the
US infrastructure - I saw some potholes near the Sun/Hayes/Wheelsmith
manufacturing facility that would swallow a Surley Pugsley (bicycle
content).

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 4, 2:22*pm, wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/op...l?_r=1&ref=opi....

Jobst Brandt

I think it's important; I get my news in snippets and completely
missed that article. I have to admit that I am pro-war, but this
article is compelling in itself. thanks jobst

Jobst, when are you going to accept the fact that, just because you
know how to build a bicycle wheel, it does not make you an expert in
politics?

Nobody cares about your political beliefs. You are an idiot. Get a
clue.