French Get A Dose Of The New Lance Armstrong

Bob Martin wrote:
in 516805 20060724 093657 Simon Brooke wrote:

What's an Englishment?

It's a spelling error - the sort one makes when typing and trying not to use the
fingers with honey on them.


Now you're just trying to be nice. It wasn't honey, he was picking his
nose.

Fred

On 07/24/2006 08:33 AM, in article
, "RonSonic"
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:03:10 -0500, "David L. Johnson"
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:44:51 +0000, Bill Sornson wrote:

I agree with everything you say. HOWEVER, the fact that they can't "get
over it" is manifested in the overt (as well as covert) undermining of
the Bush Administration /and/ the US military and intelligence agencies
in "really important ways" (think life and death...literally).

Such as exposing a CIA agent?

If you're speaking of Valerie Plame, the word "agent" is an extraordinary
stretch. She had for years been going to meetings with congress and was
otherwise a very public part of the CIA. There was no secret that she was
employed by the CIA.

You'll notice that a very extensive investigation of that whole affair found
that allegation completely baseless.


http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/do...t_28102005.pdf

Yep ... Completely baseless.

Donald Munro wrote:
And for those dumbasses who think the Internet and HTTP protocol are the
same thing, HTTP was invented by a brit working in Switzerland.

Bob Martin wrote:
Have you seen that tv clip where Jeremy Clarkson walks around Washington DC,
wearing sandwich boards listing British inventions, until he gets arrested?
It was an impressive list.

Why did he get arrested ? He wasn't wearing an anti-iraq T shirt in a
veterans medical centre was he a la Chung's link from a while ago:
http://www.selvesandothers.org/article14755.html ?

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:04:39 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:

On 07/24/2006 08:33 AM, in article
, "RonSonic"
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:03:10 -0500, "David L. Johnson"
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:44:51 +0000, Bill Sornson wrote:

I agree with everything you say. HOWEVER, the fact that they can't "get
over it" is manifested in the overt (as well as covert) undermining of
the Bush Administration /and/ the US military and intelligence agencies
in "really important ways" (think life and death...literally).

Such as exposing a CIA agent?

If you're speaking of Valerie Plame, the word "agent" is an extraordinary
stretch. She had for years been going to meetings with congress and was
otherwise a very public part of the CIA. There was no secret that she was
employed by the CIA.

You'll notice that a very extensive investigation of that whole affair found
that allegation completely baseless.


http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/do...t_28102005.pdf

Yep ... Completely baseless.

The indictment outlines he-said, they-said discrepancies in his testimony and
charges him with obstructing an investigation and false testimony. It does not
say anything about "exposing a CIA agent." Standard prosecutorial practice. You
don't find evidence of the original allegation, so you come up with something,
anything to justify your existence and expense account.

Ron

In article ,
Bob Martin wrote:

in 516808 20060724 101954 Donald Munro wrote:

And for those dumbasses who think the Internet and HTTP protocol are the
same thing, HTTP was invented by a brit working in Switzerland.

Have you seen that tv clip where Jeremy Clarkson walks around Washington DC,
wearing sandwich boards listing British inventions, until he gets arrested?
It was an impressive list.

What, you mean the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution was a hotbed
of invention? Shock!

You're beginning to sound like some Canadians: "we invented insulin! A
Canadian created basketball! We have a tenuous claim to the invention of
the telephone! We burned the White House*! Love us! LOVE US!"

It's entirely reasonable to recall and be proud of one's national
history without being a complete twit. Marching through DC with a
sandwich board of British inventions is rather like marching through
Paris with a sandwich board listing great moments in British cuisine:
they exist, certainly, but the French may have rather more to mention in
such a context.

*Yes, it's amusing that during the War of 1812 troops sallied forth from
Canada and burned the White House. Of course, at the time Canada was a
half-century away from existing as an independent dominion.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

"need more sun" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey guys, guess what? Given that there were no weapons of mass
destruction after all (convenient lies by Bush etc) and that Iraq has
turned out to be such a bloody mess, maybe the French were right after
all... So it's time you stopped bashing them for saying no to a
'can't-wait-to-get-in-there, even-if-many-countries-are-against-it'
Illegal war.

Your bias against them is very narrow-minded and poor.


What are you talking about?

David L. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:44:51 +0000, Bill Sornson wrote:

I agree with everything you say. HOWEVER, the fact that they can't
"get over it" is manifested in the overt (as well as covert)
undermining of the Bush Administration /and/ the US military and
intelligence agencies in "really important ways" (think life and
death...literally).

Such as exposing a CIA agent?

First of all, a President can unclassify anything he or she chooses.

Second of all, Flame was not a covert agent. If she had been, then
Fitzgerald would have found SOME underlying crime in his almost three years
of exhaustive investigations. He got bupkiss.

Lastly, Novak got her /name/ from "Who's Who", /and/ she'd been "outed"
previously by Alger anyway.

She's been "ruined", of course -- what with book deals, magazine covers and
now a ridiculous lawsuit -- while her lying-through-his-teeth husband gets
feted by the media.

Alas, the poor Wilsons...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:37:34 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

David L. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:44:51 +0000, Bill Sornson wrote:

I agree with everything you say. HOWEVER, the fact that they can't
"get over it" is manifested in the overt (as well as covert)
undermining of the Bush Administration /and/ the US military and
intelligence agencies in "really important ways" (think life and
death...literally).

Such as exposing a CIA agent?

First of all, a President can unclassify anything he or she chooses.

Second of all, Flame was not a covert agent. If she had been, then
Fitzgerald would have found SOME underlying crime in his almost three years
of exhaustive investigations. He got bupkiss.

What a pleasant surprise on RBR today -- I learn Sorni is a neocon
douche.

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:37:34 GMT, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

David L. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:44:51 +0000, Bill Sornson wrote:

I agree with everything you say. HOWEVER, the fact that they can't
"get over it" is manifested in the overt (as well as covert)
undermining of the Bush Administration /and/ the US military and
intelligence agencies in "really important ways" (think life and
death...literally).

Such as exposing a CIA agent?

First of all, a President can unclassify anything he or she chooses.

Second of all, Flame was not a covert agent. If she had been, then
Fitzgerald would have found SOME underlying crime in his almost
three years of exhaustive investigations. He got bupkiss.

What a pleasant surprise on RBR today -- I learn Sorni is a neocon
douche.

Because I don't drink the Kool-aid? LOL

In article ,
Bob Martin wrote:

in 516808 20060724 101954 Donald Munro wrote:

And for those dumbasses who think the Internet and HTTP protocol are the
same thing, HTTP was invented by a brit working in Switzerland.

Have you seen that tv clip where Jeremy Clarkson walks around Washington DC,
wearing sandwich boards listing British inventions, until he gets arrested?
It was an impressive list.

What was the charge?
Was he taken to a police station?
Was he put in jail?
Was he arraigned? What charge?
Did the case go to trial?
What was the disposition?

Was he trying to get arrested?

--
Michael Press