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29er "pedals easier"
I have a friend who just bought a new 29"-wheel Motobecane MTB and swears that, due to the larger-diameter wheels, it "pedals easier" than his old 26"-wheel MTB did.
Have you ever heard anyone say this before? I have. Since the contention does not seem correct to me, I was just curious about how you gentlemen would respond to it? |
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29er "pedals easier"
On 7/15/2018 12:00 PM, wrote:
I have a friend who just bought a new 29"-wheel Motobecane MTB and swears that, due to the larger-diameter wheels, it "pedals easier" than his old 26"-wheel MTB did. Have you ever heard anyone say this before? I have. Since the contention does not seem correct to me, I was just curious about how you gentlemen would respond to it? Depends on the speeds and surface anomalies involved. For a smooth board track a smaller wheel may well be more efficient: http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/wheelsize.html But in typical riding conditions, a big fat 700x54 rolls over depressions, rocks, debris, zombie bodies etc much better than, say, a skateboard wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwROHgPask -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 7:34:25 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
...a big fat 700x54 rolls over .... zombie bodies etc much better than, say, a skateboard wheel: -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 The 29er rider is prepared for all eventualities! AJ Heh-heh! |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 13:34:23 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
But in typical riding conditions, a big fat 700x54 rolls over depressions, rocks, debris, zombie bodies etc much better than, say, a skateboard wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwROHgPask Ever notice that none of the numerous disaster movies show people escaping on bicycles? The crowds are always running away from the chaos either on foot or in various vehicles that eventually are stomped flat by the monster or zapped by an alien flying machine. Also, no motorcycles (except in "Meteor" and "Deep Impact"). I guess the zombies know what they're doing by first destroying all the bicycles. "Bug Out Bike - Apocalypse Bicycle" http://www.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/ I like the paint job. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any advice suggesting that a 29" wheel was in any way superior to smaller wheels for attacking or rolling over zombies. I suspect that the added weight of the survivalist junk might ruin any benefits gained by a few mm larger diameter tire. According to the movies, dead zombies will bleed profusely, which will be too slippery to traverse on slick tires. Instead, I recommend tires with some tread. Or, just build your own 29" zombie crusher from plans: http://www.atomiczombie.com -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 10:36:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 13:34:23 -0500, AMuzi wrote: But in typical riding conditions, a big fat 700x54 rolls over depressions, rocks, debris, zombie bodies etc much better than, say, a skateboard wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwROHgPask Ever notice that none of the numerous disaster movies show people escaping on bicycles? The crowds are always running away from the chaos either on foot or in various vehicles that eventually are stomped flat by the monster or zapped by an alien flying machine. Also, no motorcycles (except in "Meteor" and "Deep Impact"). I think no motorcycles escaping the zombies is simply because motorcycles are really not very prevalent in the USA. And the screen writers are simply reflecting reality in their movie. On the road near my house, I hear about one or two motorcycles per day riding up the road. Compared to about 500 or more cars traversing the same road over 24 hours. 1/500th is about 0.2% I'd guess that is about the percentage of motorcycle ownership in the USA. No one I know owns a motorcycle. But I think they all own two or three or four cars apiece. I guess the zombies know what they're doing by first destroying all the bicycles. "Bug Out Bike - Apocalypse Bicycle" http://www.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/ I like the paint job. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any advice suggesting that a 29" wheel was in any way superior to smaller wheels for attacking or rolling over zombies. I suspect that the added weight of the survivalist junk might ruin any benefits gained by a few mm larger diameter tire. According to the movies, dead zombies will bleed profusely, which will be too slippery to traverse on slick tires. Instead, I recommend tires with some tread. Or, just build your own 29" zombie crusher from plans: http://www.atomiczombie.com -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: I think no motorcycles escaping the zombies is simply because motorcycles are really not very prevalent in the USA. And the screen writers are simply reflecting reality in their movie. On the road near my house, I hear about one or two motorcycles per day riding up the road. Compared to about 500 or more cars traversing the same road over 24 hours. 1/500th is about 0.2% I'd guess that is about the percentage of motorcycle ownership in the USA. No one I know owns a motorcycle. But I think they all own two or three or four cars apiece. Estimates from various web pages: 8.4 million motorcycles registered in the US in 2017. 263.2 million vehicles overall registered in the US in 2017. 66.5 million bicycle riders in 2016. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 7/15/2018 10:36 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
... "Bug Out Bike - Apocalypse Bicycle" http://www.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/ I like the paint job. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any advice suggesting that a 29" wheel was in any way superior to smaller wheels for attacking or rolling over zombies. I suspect that the added weight of the survivalist junk might ruin any benefits gained by a few mm larger diameter tire. According to the movies, dead zombies will bleed profusely, which will be too slippery to traverse on slick tires. Instead, I recommend tires with some tread. Or, just build your own 29" zombie crusher from plans: http://www.atomiczombie.com I don't really think the idea of a "disaster bicycle" is really all that good of an idea--but even ignoring that--running 29" tires would be dumb, since 26" is way more common. |
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On 7/16/2018 11:11 AM, Doug Cimperman wrote:
On 7/15/2018 10:36 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: ... "Bug Out Bike - Apocalypse Bicycle" http://www.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/ I like the paint job. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any advice suggesting that a 29" wheel was in any way superior to smaller wheels for attacking or rolling over zombies. I suspect that the added weight of the survivalist junk might ruin any benefits gained by a few mm larger diameter tire. According to the movies, dead zombies will bleed profusely, which will be too slippery to traverse on slick tires. Instead, I recommend tires with some tread. Or, just build your own 29" zombie crusher from plans: http://www.atomiczombie.com I don't really think the idea of a "disaster bicycle" is really all that good of an idea--but even ignoring that--running 29" tires would be dumb, since 26" is way more common. I changed my mind about that. 26" seemed to me, a medium sized Italian guy, about right for offroad/technical riding; lower to the ground, effectively smaller gearing, shorter top tube and all that. My opinion changed once I saw a full sized (muscular 6'5") rider on a his new 700-54 Gunnar. That said, women just over five feet who ride in with whatever new chinese 29-inch thing the local outlet store foisted on her looks bizarre to me if not dorky. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2018-07-16 09:25, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/16/2018 11:11 AM, Doug Cimperman wrote: On 7/15/2018 10:36 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: ... "Bug Out Bike - Apocalypse Bicycle" http://www.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/ I like the paint job. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any advice suggesting that a 29" wheel was in any way superior to smaller wheels for attacking or rolling over zombies. I suspect that the added weight of the survivalist junk might ruin any benefits gained by a few mm larger diameter tire. According to the movies, dead zombies will bleed profusely, which will be too slippery to traverse on slick tires. Instead, I recommend tires with some tread. Or, just build your own 29" zombie crusher from plans: http://www.atomiczombie.com I don't really think the idea of a "disaster bicycle" is really all that good of an idea--but even ignoring that--running 29" tires would be dumb, since 26" is way more common. 29" tires are very easy to obtain by now. There is a nice selection of low cost Asian tires that hold up very well on rocky trails. I changed my mind about that. 26" seemed to me, a medium sized Italian guy, about right for offroad/technical riding; lower to the ground, effectively smaller gearing, shorter top tube and all that. My opinion changed once I saw a full sized (muscular 6'5") rider on a his new 700-54 Gunnar. That said, women just over five feet who ride in with whatever new chinese 29-inch thing the local outlet store foisted on her looks bizarre to me if not dorky. I am 6'2" and don't feel right on a 26" MTB which I rode before. 29" large frame but with the stem shortened to 80mm feels perfect. On pavement it doesn't matter much but on some trails it does. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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