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Old October 23rd 04, 08:47 PM
Howard Kveck
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In article ,
"k.j.papai" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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Choke on this Liberal Socialists............


Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this Stevie
poo.

-Ken


Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was kind
of funny, ya know?

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Old October 23rd 04, 08:53 PM
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On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
, "Howard Kveck"
wrote:

In article ,
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS wrote:

Steve wrote:

Choke on this Liberal Socialists............



http://washington.news.designerz.com...steeper-tax-cu
ts-in-us.html

"Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"


AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File

Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
bigger



OTOH:

http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dorn...oad.php?ids=16

and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r..._krugman.shtml

Steve


Or:
http://openlettertothepresident.org/


It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......
Including the link to UC Berkeley (ha..ha!!) posted by Bornfield

A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
WHAT THE ****?!?!?!





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Old October 23rd 04, 09:18 PM
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"Howard Kveck" .comcast.net...
"k.j.papai" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
.. .
Choke on this Liberal Socialists............


Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this
Stevie
poo.

-Ken


Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was
kind
of funny, ya know?


I guess... which one?
Was I easier on someone like a fattie Stevie?

Brand New Nine:
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Old October 23rd 04, 09:56 PM
Howard Kveck
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In article ,
"k.j.papai" wrote:

"Howard Kveck" .comcast.net...
"k.j.papai" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
.. .
Choke on this Liberal Socialists............


Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this
Stevie
poo.

-Ken


Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was
kind of funny, ya know?


I guess... which one?
Was I easier on someone like a fattie Stevie?


That was the one I had in mind.

--
tanx,
Howard

"It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
where he keeps his nuts."

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Old October 23rd 04, 09:56 PM
Howard Kveck
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In article ,
Steve wrote:

On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
, "Howard Kveck"
wrote:


http://openlettertothepresident.org/

It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......


Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said? Just
the fact that you think they might be liberals because they're part of
academia isn't really an argument, you know. After all, isn't Prescott, the
guy originally cited by you, a member of academia? Why does his opinion
carry more weight than those others?

By the way, I knnow that the Bush admin. has stated that the massive
federal deficit is overwhelmingly due to the war on terror and homeland
security spending increases, but the Congressional Budget Office released
figures recently that plainly showed that over 60% of the deficit was due
to the tax cuts.

A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
WHAT THE ****?!?!?!


Wow. Cites, please?

--
tanx,
Howard

"It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
where he keeps his nuts."

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Old October 24th 04, 12:37 AM
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"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
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Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said?


You mean besides that fact that it was written pre-911?


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Old October 24th 04, 02:14 AM
Tom Young
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Howard Kveck wrote in message ...
In article ,
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS wrote:

Steve wrote:

Choke on this Liberal Socialists............



http://washington.news.designerz.com...steeper-tax-cu
ts-in-us.html

"Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"


AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File

Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
bigger



OTOH:

http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dorn...oad.php?ids=16

and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r..._krugman.shtml

Steve


Or:
http://openlettertothepresident.org/


And then there's this way of viewing things:

Taxes Explained

Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the
rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really
mean?

Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, we hope the
following will help.

Tax Cuts -- A Simple Lesson In Economics

This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that
every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to
$100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go
something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh $7.

The eighth $12.

The ninth $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, the ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed
quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them
a curve.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily meal by $20."

So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to
pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free.
But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they
divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the
sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal. So, the
restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's
bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the
amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).

The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings)

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He
pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back
when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine
sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money
between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The ones who get the most money back from a
reduction are those who paid in the most. Tax them too much, attack
them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table
anymore.
There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.
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Old October 24th 04, 02:55 AM
Howard Kveck
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In article . net,
"Tom Kunich" wrote:

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
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Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said?


You mean besides that fact that it was written pre-911?


Oh? Better check those dates again, Tom. Try 4 October, 2004 for the
Open Letter to the President, and 26 September 2003 for the Krugman piece
supplied by Steve Bornfeld.

--
tanx,
Howard

"It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
where he keeps his nuts."

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Old October 24th 04, 04:08 AM
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Steve wrote:
On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
, "Howard Kveck"
wrote:


In article ,
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS wrote:


Steve wrote:


Choke on this Liberal Socialists............



http://washington.news.designerz.com...steeper-tax-cu
ts-in-us.html

"Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"


AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File

Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
bigger



OTOH:

http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dorn...oad.php?ids=16

and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r..._krugman.shtml

Steve


Or:
http://openlettertothepresident.org/



It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......
Including the link to UC Berkeley (ha..ha!!) posted by Bornfield

A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
WHAT THE ****?!?!?!


Name's Bornfeld.
We really weren't discussing Castro, were we? Quite a tumble he took
on camera though.

Steve

 




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