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  #71  
Old June 2nd 09, 09:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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Tom Kunich wrote:
Perhaps you ought to read "A Dog in a Hat".


ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
Perhaps you ought to read "The Cat in The Hat".


Tom Kunich wrote:
Thanks for telling us that you can't read.


Scott wrote:
The TK version of "I know you are, but what am I?"


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  #72  
Old June 3rd 09, 07:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Amit Ghosh" wrote in message
...

there are probably a dozen 18 yr olds (aussies, kazakhs, italians,
belgians ...) who are as good as phinney, the only reason we hear so
much about him is because he is american.


Because he's the son of Davis Phinney. Because he's the son of two world
champion level riders he's been trained to a very high level for his age.
Perhaps he will continue to approve but the fact is that at his age and
level he hasn't proven anything except that he's a very knowledgeable racer.

It would be nice if he could succeed but because of his size I don't see him
being successful in the pro peloton.


Define successful.

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  #73  
Old June 3rd 09, 07:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article
,
" wrote:

On May 31, 6:42Â*pm, ronaldo_jeremiah
wrote:
On May 31, 4:53Â*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message


...


This is just nuts. Â*First, wins Jr World TT. Â*Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. Â*National pursuit and kilo titles. Â*Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. Â*What's next for Mini Phinney? Â*I
mean, he's only 18!! Â*When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


****in' priceless. Â*This might be as good as John Hansen assuming
Shaun Wallace hadn't ever ridden a fixed gear.


You can't make that comparison. At that point in John Hansen's
career, he hadn't ever competed against as big an idiot as
Tom Kunich. In fact, if you look at their subsequent careers,
it's clear that Hansen, despite his youthful promise, never had
the talent or motivation to be memorialized as the
campionissimo of RBR idiocy. In pro cycling one can always
debate - Merckx or Coppi, van Looy or de Vlaeminck? But
in RBR, there can be only one.


But its a small field.

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  #74  
Old June 3rd 09, 08:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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On Jun 2, 11:51*pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,





" wrote:
On May 31, 6:42*pm, ronaldo_jeremiah
wrote:
On May 31, 4:53*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


"Scott" wrote in message


...


This is just nuts. *First, wins Jr World TT. *Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. *National pursuit and kilo titles. *Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. *What's next for Mini Phinney? *I
mean, he's only 18!! *When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.

  #76  
Old June 3rd 09, 02:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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On Jun 3, 2:49*am, Michael Press wrote:
*"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

It would be nice if he could succeed but because of his size I don't see him
being successful in the pro peloton.


Define successful.


Unanimous adulation on RBR.

Merckx comes very close to being considered successful.

R
  #77  
Old June 3rd 09, 03:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Michael Press" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

It would be nice if he could succeed but because of his size I don't see
him
being successful in the pro peloton.


Define successful.


Winning several races a year.

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Old June 3rd 09, 04:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Amit Ghosh
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On Jun 3, 2:49*am, Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
*"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Amit Ghosh" wrote in message
....


there are probably a dozen 18 yr olds (aussies, kazakhs, italians,
belgians ...) who are as good as phinney, the only reason we hear so
much about him is because he is american.


Because he's the son of Davis Phinney. Because he's the son of two world
champion level riders he's been trained to a very high level for his age.
Perhaps he will continue to approve but the fact is that at his age and
level he hasn't proven anything except that he's a very knowledgeable racer.


It would be nice if he could succeed but because of his size I don't see him
being successful in the pro peloton.


Define successful.


dumbass,

some would define success as simply having a protour career lasting
several years, like say andreu.

hincapie has won GW, KBK, plouay and several euro stages, but people
are expecting a lot more from phinney.

i would say a "star: is someone who has won a GT or multiple
monuments. i would also relax the definition of monuments and include
worlds and a few other important races.
  #79  
Old June 3rd 09, 05:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article
,
"Kurgan. presented by Gringioni." wrote:

On Jun 2, 11:51Â*pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,





" wrote:
On May 31, 6:42Â*pm, ronaldo_jeremiah
wrote:
On May 31, 4:53Â*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


"Scott" wrote in message


...


This is just nuts. Â*First, wins Jr World TT. Â*Follows it up with World
Cup pursuit wins, a ride in the Olympics, AND World Championship
pursuit title. Â*National pursuit and kilo titles. Â*Now he goes and
pulls off the U23 Paris Roubaix win. Â*What's next for Mini Phinney? Â*I
mean, he's only 18!! Â*When he figures out what he's really best at,
it's gonna be amazing.


Not really. Let's remember that in his age category he isn't meeting the
best possible racers. So a good racer looks like a spectacular racer.


****in' priceless. Â*This might be as good as John Hansen assuming
Shaun Wallace hadn't ever ridden a fixed gear.


You can't make that comparison. Â*At that point in John Hansen's
career, he hadn't ever competed against as big an idiot as
Tom Kunich. Â*In fact, if you look at their subsequent careers,
it's clear that Hansen, despite his youthful promise, never had
the talent or motivation to be memorialized as the
campionissimo of RBR idiocy. Â*In pro cycling one can always
debate - Merckx or Coppi, van Looy or de Vlaeminck? Â*But
in RBR, there can be only one.


But its a small field.




Dumbass -

Maybe regular posters, but there have been thousands of Dumbasses who
have posted here over the years and TK has outidioted them all.


You do not get out much.

James Harris
Robert McElwain
Wilhelm Muckenheim
Half of sci.physics

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Michael Press
  #80  
Old June 3rd 09, 10:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Amit Ghosh" wrote in message
...

i would say a "star: is someone who has won a GT or multiple
monuments. i would also relax the definition of monuments and include
worlds and a few other important races.


That's a good racer. A "star" can be relied upon to win fairly regularly.

 




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