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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
colwyn wrote:
On 17/05/2018 16:11, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 14:33, colwyn wrote: On 17/05/2018 14:08, colwyn wrote: On 17/05/2018 13:08, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 11:35, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands The number of cyclists being injured on British roads could be almost seven times higher than previously thought. Huge under-reporting of cycling injuries, often involving minor collisions with cars and other vehicles, has been found by researchers. About a third of incidents did "not involve anyone else", suggesting that they were linked to potholes in the road or other obstacles such as bollards. The report by Rachel Aldred, a reader in transport at Westminster University, will fuel demands for an increase in the number of segregated cycle lanes. She said that British cyclists were four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands, where cycle lanes are far more common. The study also unearthed great under-reporting in the number of people injured while walking, with pedestrians three times more likely to be hurt than official police accident figures show. It revealed that people with disabilities and those from poorer homes, who are less likely to be able to afford their own car or public transport, were more likely to be injured than the national average. Dr Aldred analysed feedback from the National Travel Survey, an annual poll of the transport habits of 147,000 people. She compared this with road accident figures based on police reports, which recorded 18,477 cycling casualties on roads in 2016, including 14,978 slight injuries and 3,499 people who were killed or seriously injured. Analysis of the National Travel Survey showed that the risk of cycling injuries was much higher, although most of these additional injuries were likely to be slight, Dr Aldred said, suggesting that the true scale of injuries could exceed 125,000. Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s. The government has launched a review of cycle safety to increase the use of bicycles. It is likely to consider imposing mandatory passing distances to prevent motorists overtaking too close to cyclists on busy roads. It could also investigate the possibility of fines for "car dooring", when motorists or car passengers negligently swing open doors and hit passing cyclists. Cyclists do not use segregated cycle lanes in the UK There are no figures to show how she has arrived at her conclusions. Eh? This is a newspaper article analysing responses form 147,000 people! 18,477 cycling casualties in 2016 etc - I suggest you read the article or why not contact Dr Aldred? Cycling in the UK overall is actually declining. And again, read the article. Here it is again: "Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s." If it is, then it is high time government does something something about it! Also in the press- Maybe this will help: Brussels slaps Britain with LAWSUIT: Germany and France also targeted over pollution BRITAIN is being sued by the European Commission over its failure to meet air quality targets in dozens of towns and cities across the country. What does that have to do with the price of fish? Pollution is damaging and kills - diesel and petrol fumes are not healthy for cycling. Then do proper road users a favour and don't cycle. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/2018 16:50, colwyn wrote:
On 17/05/2018 16:11, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 14:33, colwyn wrote: On 17/05/2018 14:08, colwyn wrote: On 17/05/2018 13:08, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 11:35, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands The number of cyclists being injured on British roads could be almost seven times higher than previously thought. Huge under-reporting of cycling injuries, often involving minor collisions with cars and other vehicles, has been found by researchers. About a third of incidents did “not involve anyone else”, suggesting that they were linked to potholes in the road or other obstacles such as bollards. The report by Rachel Aldred, a reader in transport at Westminster University, will fuel demands for an increase in the number of segregated cycle lanes. She said that British cyclists were four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands, where cycle lanes are far more common. The study also unearthed great under-reporting in the number of people injured while walking, with pedestrians three times more likely to be hurt than official police accident figures show. It revealed that people with disabilities and those from poorer homes, who are less likely to be able to afford their own car or public transport, were more likely to be injured than the national average. Dr Aldred analysed feedback from the National Travel Survey, an annual poll of the transport habits of 147,000 people. She compared this with road accident figures based on police reports, which recorded 18,477 cycling casualties on roads in 2016, including 14,978 slight injuries and 3,499 people who were killed or seriously injured. Analysis of the National Travel Survey showed that the risk of cycling injuries was much higher, although most of these additional injuries were likely to be slight, Dr Aldred said, suggesting that the true scale of injuries could exceed 125,000. Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s. The government has launched a review of cycle safety to increase the use of bicycles. It is likely to consider imposing mandatory passing distances to prevent motorists overtaking too close to cyclists on busy roads. It could also investigate the possibility of fines for “car dooring”, when motorists or car passengers negligently swing open doors and hit passing cyclists. Cyclists do not use segregated cycle lanes in the UK There are no figures to show how she has arrived at her conclusions. Eh? This is a newspaper article analysing responses form 147,000 people! 18,477 cycling casualties in 2016 etc - I suggest you read the article or why not contact Dr Aldred? Cycling in the UK overall is actually declining. And again, read the article. Here it is again: "Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s." If it is, then it is high time government does something something about it! Also in the press- Maybe this will help: Brussels slaps Britain with LAWSUIT: Germany and France also targeted over pollution BRITAIN is being sued by the European Commission over its failure to meet air quality targets in dozens of towns and cities across the country. What does that have to do with the price of fish? Pollution is damaging and kills - diesel and petrol fumes are not healthy for cycling. You have an easy remedy. You don't even have to go to the trouble of trying to persuade anyone. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/2018 16:47, colwyn wrote:
On 17/05/2018 16:16, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 11:35, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands Netherlands 17 million people total* 200 cyclists a year dead UK 65 million people about a hundred cyclists a year dead How does that mean UK cyclists are 4 times as likely to get killed? Try this calculation; The average cycling distance per person cycled in the UK is 52 miles per annum, whilst a person in the Netherlands cycles 1000 km a year. Then we are only a little over half again as likely to die (1 1/2 x), not 4 times. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On Thu, 17 May 2018 10:35:40 GMT, colwyn
wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands The number of cyclists being injured on British roads could be almost seven times higher than previously thought. Huge under-reporting of cycling injuries, often involving minor collisions with cars and other vehicles, has been found by researchers. About a third of incidents did “not involve anyone else”, suggesting that they were linked to potholes in the road or other obstacles such as bollards. The report by Rachel Aldred, a reader in transport at Westminster University, will fuel demands for an increase in the number of segregated cycle lanes. She said that British cyclists were four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands, where cycle lanes are far more common. The study also unearthed great under-reporting in the number of people injured while walking, with pedestrians three times more likely to be hurt than official police accident figures show. It revealed that people with disabilities and those from poorer homes, who are less likely to be able to afford their own car or public transport, were more likely to be injured than the national average. Dr Aldred analysed feedback from the National Travel Survey, an annual poll of the transport habits of 147,000 people. She compared this with road accident figures based on police reports, which recorded 18,477 cycling casualties on roads in 2016, including 14,978 slight injuries and 3,499 people who were killed or seriously injured. Analysis of the National Travel Survey showed that the risk of cycling injuries was much higher, although most of these additional injuries were likely to be slight, Dr Aldred said, suggesting that the true scale of injuries could exceed 125,000. Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s. The government has launched a review of cycle safety to increase the use of bicycles. It is likely to consider imposing mandatory passing distances to prevent motorists overtaking too close to cyclists on busy roads. It could also investigate the possibility of fines for “car dooring”, when motorists or car passengers negligently swing open doors and hit passing cyclists. This is, of course, diabolical. Sadly the usual rejects will be whining about not enough being spent on roads (for cars). -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On Thu, 17 May 2018 15:53:46 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote: colwyn wrote: [] Pollution is damaging and kills - diesel and petrol fumes are not healthy for cycling. Then do proper road users a favour and don't cycle. I don't think Mr "Rational Thought" that you've quite managed to understand Cause and Effect. Do keep up the studies though. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/2018 17:37, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 10:35:40 GMT, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands The number of cyclists being injured on British roads could be almost seven times higher than previously thought. Huge under-reporting of cycling injuries, often involving minor collisions with cars and other vehicles, has been found by researchers. About a third of incidents did “not involve anyone elseâ€, suggesting that they were linked to potholes in the road or other obstacles such as bollards. The report by Rachel Aldred, a reader in transport at Westminster University, will fuel demands for an increase in the number of segregated cycle lanes. She said that British cyclists were four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands, where cycle lanes are far more common. The study also unearthed great under-reporting in the number of people injured while walking, with pedestrians three times more likely to be hurt than official police accident figures show. It revealed that people with disabilities and those from poorer homes, who are less likely to be able to afford their own car or public transport, were more likely to be injured than the national average. Dr Aldred analysed feedback from the National Travel Survey, an annual poll of the transport habits of 147,000 people. She compared this with road accident figures based on police reports, which recorded 18,477 cycling casualties on roads in 2016, including 14,978 slight injuries and 3,499 people who were killed or seriously injured. Analysis of the National Travel Survey showed that the risk of cycling injuries was much higher, although most of these additional injuries were likely to be slight, Dr Aldred said, suggesting that the true scale of injuries could exceed 125,000. Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s. The government has launched a review of cycle safety to increase the use of bicycles. It is likely to consider imposing mandatory passing distances to prevent motorists overtaking too close to cyclists on busy roads. It could also investigate the possibility of fines for “car dooringâ€, when motorists or car passengers negligently swing open doors and hit passing cyclists. This is, of course, diabolical. Sadly the usual rejects will be whining about not enough being spent on roads (for cars). It is annoying that everybody's money is thrown in the wrong direction all the time. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/2018 16:11, MrCheerful wrote:
On 17/05/2018 14:08, colwyn wrote: On 17/05/2018 13:08, MrCheerful wrote: On 17/05/2018 11:35, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands The number of cyclists being injured on British roads could be almost seven times higher than previously thought. Huge under-reporting of cycling injuries, often involving minor collisions with cars and other vehicles, has been found by researchers. About a third of incidents did “not involve anyone else”, suggesting that they were linked to potholes in the road or other obstacles such as bollards. The report by Rachel Aldred, a reader in transport at Westminster University, will fuel demands for an increase in the number of segregated cycle lanes. She said that British cyclists were four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands, where cycle lanes are far more common. The study also unearthed great under-reporting in the number of people injured while walking, with pedestrians three times more likely to be hurt than official police accident figures show. It revealed that people with disabilities and those from poorer homes, who are less likely to be able to afford their own car or public transport, were more likely to be injured than the national average. Dr Aldred analysed feedback from the National Travel Survey, an annual poll of the transport habits of 147,000 people. She compared this with road accident figures based on police reports, which recorded 18,477 cycling casualties on roads in 2016, including 14,978 slight injuries and 3,499 people who were killed or seriously injured. Analysis of the National Travel Survey showed that the risk of cycling injuries was much higher, although most of these additional injuries were likely to be slight, Dr Aldred said, suggesting that the true scale of injuries could exceed 125,000. Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s. The government has launched a review of cycle safety to increase the use of bicycles. It is likely to consider imposing mandatory passing distances to prevent motorists overtaking too close to cyclists on busy roads. It could also investigate the possibility of fines for “car dooring”, when motorists or car passengers negligently swing open doors and hit passing cyclists. Cyclists do not use segregated cycle lanes in the UK There are no figures to show how she has arrived at her conclusions. Eh? This is a newspaper article analysing responses form 147,000 people! 18,477 cycling casualties in 2016 etc - I suggest you read the article or why not contact Dr Aldred? Cycling in the UK overall is actually declining. And again, read the article. Here it is again: "Figures published by the Department for Transport at the start of the year showed that the number of people cycling has flatlined over the past decade as traffic has risen steeply. The average adult made 15 journeys by bicycle in 2016, two fewer than ten years earlier. The number has fluctuated between 14 and 18 trips since the mid-1990s." If it is, then it is high time government does something something about it! So you agree, cycling is declining. There is no link for me to follow, in order to read and analyse the figures she gives. Here you a http://rachelaldred.org/ I am sure she'll be able to explain. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/18 16:16, MrCheerful wrote:
On 17/05/2018 11:35, colwyn wrote: Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show Graeme Paton, Transport Correspondent May 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times British cyclists are four times as likely to be killed as those in the Netherlands Netherlands 17 million people total* 200 cyclists a year dead UK 65 million people about a hundred cyclists a year dead How does that mean UK cyclists are 4 times as likely to get killed? For someone that likes to think that pedestrian casualties per vehicle-distance is meaningful, it is obviously something that goes way over your head. |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On 17/05/18 17:48, MrCheerful wrote:
It is annoying that everybody's money is thrown in the wrong direction all the time. The money comes from a minority. I repeat my post of 21:52 on the 14th. [quote] This article is a few years old:- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-get-back.html It is estimated that 60% of households are net beneficiaries of the tax system, getting back more in benefits than they contribute. The neutral point is a gross income of between £35,000 and £38,000. So, many motorists are paying their vehicle taxes with one hand what they receive from taxpayers with the other. If I am a beneficiary, then by cycling I am doing taxpayers a favour. If I am a taxpayer then by cycling I am not giving away as much to a bunch of freeloaders. [Unquote] |
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Cyclists hurt seven times more often than figures show
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 7:45:45 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
For someone that likes to think that pedestrian casualties per vehicle-distance is meaningful, it is obviously something that goes way over your head. Here a driver on 12 points (an automatic ban), bombs through a red light, does double the speed limit, kills a pedestrian and then gets a paltry six years. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...MW-driver.html |
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