Remember to help out your fellow cyclists that use CO2 cartridges.

On Nov 30, 1:15*pm, "PatTX" wrote:

You missed his point. He was saying, more or less "What do you do after you
use up all of your CO2 cartridges and then get another flat?" *I carry CO2,
but I also carry a Topeak pump. It's the Boy Scout motto: *"Be Prepared!"


The only flat I had on this summer's tour was somewhere west of Val
d'Or, Quebec, in the rain. I changed out the tube quickly enough, only
to find the "new" tube had, apparently, been pinch flatted and
returned to the store.

I was ****ed about the tube but happy I had my Road Morph pump and not
a CO2 inflator. (And that I had yet another new tube.)

Jorg Lueke wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:09*am, SMS wrote:

After he was done with the pump he thanked me, and I said something like
"how come you don't carry a pump?" (since he had spare tubes and patches
and tire levers), and he said 'I use CO2, but I got two flats and I
didn't have enough.' I guess I never understood the logic of carrying
CO2 versus carrying an infinite supply of air via a tiny pump like the
Topeak Micro Rocket, which weighs 65 gm versus two 16 gram CO2
cartridges (117 grams), since you still need the CO2 inflater.

The logic is pretty simple. The CO2 will work a lot faster than a
little hand pump.
The hand pumps can be quite frustrating to properly fill a tube.

That's why you get the Topeak Road Morph and not one of the cheap ****e
pumps.

Now the logic on measuring things to the gram is something that
escapes me.

As long as their not measuring they're input and output the same way, it
doesn't seem very useful.

--
Dane Buson -
When in trouble or in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shout.

Chalo wrote:

The other day, I topped up all 32 wheelbarrow tires on the 80-foot
pedal-powered rattlesnake parked at my house.
^^^^^^^^^
This is a sentence I never expected to see in my lifetime.

I counted approximately 1000 full length strokes from my Zefal Husky
floor pump, and I got some blistery spots on the palms of my hands
that itched for days afterwards.

So while generally speaking I figure human-powered tire inflation is a
good companion to human-powered transportation, I can appreciate why
some folks might want to avoid pumping when it's easy to do so.

When pumping the tires on the car, I have considered the merits of
getting an electric pump I'll admit.

--
Dane Buson -
Most rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who
can't talk for people who can't read.
-- Frank Zappa

Chalo wrote:

The other day, I topped up all 32 wheelbarrow tires on the 80-foot
pedal-powered rattlesnake parked at my house. I counted approximately
1000 full length strokes from my Zefal Husky floor pump, and I got
some blistery spots on the palms of my hands that itched for days
afterwards.

No one would think any worse of you if you had used a compressor.

PatTX wrote:


You missed his point. He was saying, more or less "What do you do after you
use up all of your CO2 cartridges and then get another flat?" I carry CO2,
but I also carry a Topeak pump. It's the Boy Scout motto: "Be Prepared!"

The guy did say to me 'I may have to rethink my strategy,' so there is
hope. I guess since I'm not into super-light, I never considered
carrying a pump a problem, even when I used the big old Zefal frame
pumps. I get flats so rarely (knock on wood) with the use of kevlar
belted tires, and/or anti-flat strips that I don't need to save 60
seconds inflating a tire with a pump versus CO2.

I remember riding in Russia on a tandem tour. I told everyone to get
decent tires for crappy roads, not racing tires, but of course some
people showed up with 700x19 tires. They were endlessly fixing flats. I
got one flat in 800 km on my 700x35 kevlar belted tires (somehow a thorn
came in from the side, bypassing the Mr. Tuffy). We were slower, due to
a heavier Trek tandem with heavier tires, but we more than made up for
it with fewer stops for repairs.

::
:: I hoped, in the future, never to have as many flats as I did. Why
:: didn't I buy a small pump instead? Simple - I didn't know they
:: existed.

Topeak Road Morph.

On Dec 1, 3:17*pm, SMS wrote:

The guy did say to me 'I may have to rethink my strategy,' so there is
hope. I guess since I'm not into super-light, I never considered
carrying a pump a problem, even when I used the big old Zefal frame
pumps. I get flats so rarely (knock on wood) with the use of kevlar
belted tires, and/or anti-flat strips that I don't need to save 60
seconds inflating a tire with a pump versus CO2.

I have to agree with Mr. Scharf on this one. I have never considered
carrying a pump to be a problem.

In fact, the way I'd give the most help someone who is carrying CO2
cartridges is to tell them "Carry a pump."

- Frank Krygowski

Frank Krygowski wrote:

I have to agree with Mr. Scharf on this one.[...]

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

Any of those pumps with hoses will do the trick, the hose being the
killer featu enabling you to stick one end of the pump against the
earth and use the whole weight of the planet as a counter rather than
trying to squeeze your two hands together.
Topeak is the only manufacturer that I've seen offering pumps like
this, and they have several models so equipped. One thing is certain;
once you've had that hose nothing else will satisfy you.

On Nov 30, 12:15*pm, "PatTX" wrote:
:: After he was done with the pump he thanked me, and I said something
:: like "how come you don't carry a pump?" (since he had spare tubes
:: and patches and tire levers), and he said 'I use CO2, but I got two
:: flats and I didn't have enough.' I guess I never understood the
:: logic of carrying CO2 versus carrying an infinite supply of air via
:: a tiny pump like the Topeak Micro Rocket, which weighs 65 gm versus
:: two 16 gram CO2 cartridges (117 grams), since you still need the CO2
:: inflater.

SMS
:
: The logic is pretty simple. *The CO2 will work a lot faster than a
: little hand pump.
: The hand pumps can be quite frustrating to properly fill a tube.
:
: Now the logic on measuring things to the gram is something that
: escapes me.

Jorg

You missed his point. He was saying, more or less "What do you do after you
use up all of your CO2 cartridges and then get another flat?" *I carry CO2,
but I also carry a Topeak pump. It's the Boy Scout motto: *"Be Prepared!"

Pat in TX

I've never had more than one flat at a time. I can see it if you run
into some nasty debris. That's when you call your wife I don't
see any issue in carrying both.