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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists
can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. (OK - so it's trollish wording, but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.) |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
Tom Crispin wrote:
New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. (OK - so it's trollish wording, but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.) You are Dugh AICMFP! |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On 25 Apr, 15:07, Tom Crispin
wrote: New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. No, it doesn't say that in these terms:- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Met ignore minor driving breaches Police will not charge drivers going through no entry signs Police officers in London have been told they no longer have powers to enforce the law when drivers flout basic rules of the road. Motorists caught making "minor errors of judgment" should face no more than words of advice, new Metropolitan Police (Met) guidelines said. But drivers could be prosecuted if caught on street cameras owned by local authorities in the capital. And police can still act if the driving puts other road users at risk. The new guidelines say officers should not act if they spot drivers ignoring no entry signs, turning restrictions, traffic direction signs, flow priority, no u-turns and vehicle restrictions. This is purely about getting the cash in to the council's coffers Anti-camera campaigner Captain Gatso A memo circulated to officers this week read: "Where officers witness offences in circumstances that amount to minor errors of judgment, drivers may continue to be stopped and words of advice given, however, no formal warning may be given or reporting action taken. "Officers must not tell drivers that no proceedings will be brought as a local authority civil enforcement notice could still be issued, for example where the authority has captured the offence on camera." A Met spokesman said: "Following a review of police powers after the introduction of the Traffic Management Act 2004 and the Transport for London Act 2003 police no longer have legal power to enforce certain moving traffic offences involving non compliance with signs. "The power for enforcement now lies with Transport for London and local councils. "Where officers see driving that is blatantly of a poor standard or that endangers other road users police will still intervene and take action under their general powers to tackle dangerous or careless driving." Anti-camera campaigner Captain Gatso said: "This is purely about getting the cash in to the council's coffers." A Transport for London spokesman said: "We would rather motorists understood and complied with the rules rather than issue a high number of penalty charge notices. "Any money raised from traffic enforcement is put back into improving London's roads and traffic control." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Toom |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On Apr 25, 3:07*pm, Tom Crispin
wrote: New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. (OK - so it's trollish wording, but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.) Are these cyclists going to be persecuted for other 'minor' infringements such as ignoring red lights, cycling across pedestrian crossings while said pedestrians are crossing, cycling the wrong way down one way streets, ignoring no entry signs, cycling on pedestrian footways & in pedestrian areas. Because 'but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.' Francis |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On Apr 25, 3:07*pm, Tom Crispin
wrote: New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. You know perfectly well that it's nothing like that. Motorists will nearly always now be fined for every little infringement, however minor and with no discretion whatsoever, due to the presence of council cameras. Like with parking, the whole thing will now be about taking as much money from motorists as possible, and the original aims of the laws (keeping traffic moving and road users safe) will be of no concern whatsoever to the councils. Additionally, uninsured, unlicensed and drunk drivers will now get away with it *even more* than they already do because the police will be stopping even fewer people. As usual with remote enforcement, only those who register their cars and use their own cars will have anything to worry about. It's a bloody disgrace. This is yet more bad news for mainly law-abiding motorists, and yet another stealth tax (how nice during this economic climate), and doubtless the car-haters here are jumping for joy, even while pretending to be indignant that motorists will now have it "easier". |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On 2009-04-25, Tom Crispin wrote:
New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. (OK - so it's trollish wording, but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.) It doesn't say they can legally flout rules, just that enforcement becomes the responsibility of local council and TfL thugs rather than of the (considerably more competent and qualified) police. Expect more fines and less safety. |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
wrote: New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. You know perfectly well that it's nothing like that. Motorists will nearly always now be fined for every little infringement, however minor and with no discretion whatsoever, due to the presence of council cameras. In that case, the guidelines have my full support. |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:07:09 +0100
Tom Crispin wrote: New guidelines issued to the Metropolitan police means that motorists can openly flout many highway code rules without risk of the police taking any action other than a word in their ear. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7874363.stm In contrast, cyclists will still be persecuted for minor infringements, such as mounting a kerb to avoid the mortal perils of left turning lorries encroaching on ASLs. (OK - so it's trollish wording, but that's about the position of things in London at the moment.) Do those "certain moving traffic offences involving non compliance with signs" not apply in the same way to cyclists too? |
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Motorists can legally flout the rules of the road
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:24:24 GMT,
wrote: Cyclists, of course, will continue to flout road traffic law and ignore the highway code, as they have always done. Just like drivers, in fact. Your point? Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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