RLJ cyclist hospitalises 81 year old and scarpers

On 12/07/2019 17:39, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 16:53, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

*If* that is what it means in chav-speak, it was a particularly
mystifying response to the sentence "I would expect so. But it isn't
something of which I have ever had experience".

Still... look who "wrote" it.

Did you just say "chav speak"!

Five Ws - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws
The Five Ws (sometimes referred to as Five Ws and How, 5W1H, or Six Ws)
are questions whose answers are considered basic in information
gathering or problem solving. They are often mentioned in journalism
(cf. news style), research and police investigations.

--
Bod

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 3:30:13 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?

Which Was What We Wanted.
AKA QED.

On 12/07/2019 18:02, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 17:39, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 16:53, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

*If* that is what it means in chav-speak, it was a particularly
mystifying response to the sentence "I would expect so. But it isn't
something of which I have ever had experience".

Still... look who "wrote" it.

Did you just say "chav speak"!

Is that an exclamation or a question?

Five Ws - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws
The Five Ws (sometimes referred to as Five Ws and How, 5W1H, or Six Ws)
are questions whose answers are considered basic in information
gathering or problem solving. They are often mentioned in journalism
(cf. news style), research and police investigations.

Never heard of it. I far prefer English. Even the uSA version makes more
intuitive sense than that.

On 12/07/2019 18:26, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 18:02, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 17:39, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 16:53, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual
text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

*If* that is what it means in chav-speak, it was a particularly
mystifying response to the sentence "I would expect so. But it isn't
something of which I have ever had experience".

Still... look who "wrote" it.
Â*
Â* Did you just say "chav speak"!

Is that an exclamation or a question?

Five Ws - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws
The Five Ws (sometimes referred to as Five Ws and How, 5W1H, or Six
Ws) are questions whose answers are considered basic in information
gathering or problem solving. They are often mentioned in journalism
(cf. news style), research and police investigations.

Never heard of it. I far prefer English. Even the uSA version makes more
intuitive sense than that.

The exclamation point is a mark of terminal punctuation. As such, it
should not be followed by a period or question mark. Some writers will
use both a question mark and exclamation point for an exclamatory
question, but only the exclamation point is truly necessary. What in the
world are you doing up there!

Exclamation point | The Punctuation Guide
https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/...ion-point.html

--
Bod

On 12/07/2019 17:39, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 16:53, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

*If* that is what it means in chav-speak, it was a particularly
mystifying response to the sentence "I would expect so. But it isn't
something of which I have ever had experience".

Still... look who "wrote" it.

past tense is writ

JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 16:53, Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual
text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went
green for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police
were lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and
that] the light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward
to reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual
evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever
had experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

*If* that is what it means in chav-speak, it was a particularly
mystifying response to the sentence "I would expect so. But it isn't
something of which I have ever had experience".

Still... look who "wrote" it.

I'm new to this interweb thing and did not know that. Thanks.

Bod wrote:
On 12/07/2019 15:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual
text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green
for her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were
lying when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the
light went green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked
was how they knew the pedestrian light was green. I look forward to
reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who
accused them of lying. That was you.

If you received a NIP through the post accusing you of jumping a
red light would you expect the Police to provide actual evidence?

I would expect so. But it isn't something of which I have ever had
experience.

W5

What does W5 mean?


Who, What, Where, When & Why

Thank you.

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 3:26:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green for
her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were lying
when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the light went
green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked was how they knew the pedestrian light was green.
I look forward to reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who accused
them of lying. That was you.


You still need to provide evidence to support this claim.
I asked how the Police know the pedestrian light was green.
"We have CCTV footage" would be one answer. There are other possibilities but I did not accuse the Police of lying. That is why you owe me an apology.

On 12/07/2019 20:36, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 3:26:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green for
her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were lying
when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the light went
green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked was how they knew the pedestrian light was green.
I look forward to reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who accused
them of lying. That was you.


You still need to provide evidence to support this claim.
I asked how the Police know the pedestrian light was green.

....thereby attempting (though failing) to argue that the light (for the
pedestrian victim of the criminal on the bike) was not green.

"We have CCTV footage" would be one answer. There are other possibilities but I did not accuse the Police of lying. That is why you owe me an apology.

You accused the police of lying. I owe them no apology, not having
accused them of anything.

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 12:00:31 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20:36, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 3:26:15 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:26, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2019 03:22, Simon Jester wrote:

Where did I say the Police were lying? Please cite the actual text.

You quoted this:

"...The police told us she did nothing wrong, the light went green for
her to cross..."

Then you asked:

"If the Police were not on scene how do they know this?"

You can only ask such a question if you think that the police were lying
when they "...told us she did nothing wrong [and that] the light went
green for her to cross...".

Thank you proving I did not say the police were lying. All I asked was how they knew the pedestrian light was green.
I look forward to reading your apology.

I have nothing to apologise to the police for. It was not I who accused
them of lying. That was you.


You still need to provide evidence to support this claim.
I asked how the Police know the pedestrian light was green.

...thereby attempting (though failing) to argue that the light (for the
pedestrian victim of the criminal on the bike) was not green.

No, just asking for evidence that it was.

If this was a court do you think the advocate for the cyclist would ask the testifying officer how he knows for certain the light was green for the pedestrian?


"We have CCTV footage" would be one answer. There are other possibilities but I did not accuse the Police of lying. That is why you owe me an apology.

You accused the police of lying.

A claim you still need to prove.

I owe them no apology, not having
accused them of anything.

Unless you can provide evidence I accused to police of lying you owe me, not the police, an apology.