Power drink recommendations?

"Earl Bollinger" wrote in message
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"Tom Keats" wrote in message
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maxo writes:
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:27:58 +0000, saki wrote:
Is there something I could put together at home (ided tea with sugar,
for
instance) or is there something that's really sure-fire for an energy
kick?
I like half Coca-cola, half water. Really.
Cheap, effective, and annoys the health nuts.
This past summer, after a hardworking stint of spreading
crush gravel in a construction site excavation, without
eating anything all day, I was left wondering how the heck
I was going to make it home at the end of the day. I was
too pooped to walk, let alone ride. I had just enough coin
to buy a Coke at the gas station next door to the site.
Boy, that hit the spot! Just remembering that reminds me
of the rendition of the tune 'Survival' by Yes on their
first album. I got home okay.
I also recall how a Coke on an empty stomach can lead to
some gaseously turbulent consequences. I don't blame ya
for steppin' on it with water.
cheers,
Tom

Well actually a number of bike racers use a "flat coke" as a fast recovery
drink after a race.
A flat coke would not have all the carbonated bubbles to cause gas
problems.


Eddy B. used to have his racers carry a shot of espresso for an extra kick
at the end of a long ride.

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 20:43:28 -0000, Jeremy Parker wrote:

"saki" wrote

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Is there something I could put together at home (ided tea with
sugar, for
instance) or is there something that's really sure-fire for an
energy kick?

Well, as people have said, you probably don't ***need*** it at 22
miles. I don't get the bonk until 40 or 50. However, it does no
harm to drink something ahead of time.

While I don't need it I do use Gatorade (powder) mix at 50%. Straight
water makes my stomach queasy. I'm good up to 20 but anything more and
it's my Gatorade Lemon-Lime mix. I won't even start out a century with
straigth Gatorade. Towards the end (after 75 miles) I use straight
Gatorade. In between I'll can take shots of straight water but not for
lang.

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"saki" wrote in message
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If it's not raining Sunday morning I plan to do the 22-mile L.A. Acura
bike
tour prior to the marathon. My training rides are usually 15 miles; I did
twenty last weekend with no trouble.

Because this is a route unfamiliar to me (and because it has some slight
elevation changes) I'm concerned about needing a boost in the latter
stages
of the ride. Normally I just carry water. I'm unfamiliar with all the
modern power drinks (they weren't around thirty years ago when I did my
long-distance riding) and don't know whether they're really helpful.

Is there something I could put together at home (ided tea with sugar, for
instance) or is there something that's really sure-fire for an energy
kick?

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double shot espresso, sugar (or cocoa) & water will add 1.5 mph avg &
subtract 5 miles from the bonk threshold!

"Matt O'Toole" wrote in
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Ken wrote:

"Peter Cole" wrote in
news:1109961757.555452.94160 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

22 miles shouldn't begin to deplete a healthy person's glycogen
reserves.

Most people have about 2 hours of glycogen at a moderate aerobic
pace, so 22 miles will *begin* to deplete the reserves. Plain water
will be fine for most people, but a pint or two of gatorade won't
hurt, especially on a hot day.

That's an hour and a half of riding in the mountains for me, and only
an hour by the beach where it's flat. I'm not particularly fast,
either. I'd say half our bike club would have about the same pace.

I'm not a big sports drink afficianado -- water has always worked fine
for me, with a little food every couple of hours. Sports drinks do go
into your system faster though.

Thanks for all the good advice.

I had a banana and tea before the ride (which started at 5:50am), carried
two bottles, one with water and one with diluted gatorade-type fruity
sucrose drink. This worked out fine. When I was anticipating a climb I'd
take a swig of the sports drink a few miles ahead of time and seemed to
notice an energy boost.

I was amazed at how easy the ride actually was. My training rides are
mostly flat so it surprised me that I was able to take the small hills in
stride. The main challenge was riding with 18,000 other riders, though
most of them were polite.

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Zoot Katz wrote:

4 Mar 2005 11:48:20 -0800,
.com,
"Peter Cole" wrote:


Sports drinks are entirely unnecessary marketing inventions. The
purported goal is to maximize fluid uptake, not provide calories or
electrolytes, as so many are led to believe.


Sports drinks were "designed" for feed-lot cattle.
When in doubt, humans should use honey and drink water.

Moo.

What works for dinosaurs?

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Tom Sherman - Earth

Tue, 08 Mar 2005 01:44:32 -0600, , Tom
Sherman wrote:

Sports drinks were "designed" for feed-lot cattle.
When in doubt, humans should use honey and drink water.

Moo.

What works for dinosaurs?

Oil of Olay, Grecian Formula and Viagra.
Then nobody knows you're a dinosaur
--
zk

Gary Smiley wrote:
I get limes at the produce market really cheap - 10-15 for a dollar.
I
squeeze the juice of 1 lime into a bottle of water. Then I add honey.
The
bees got it right, and they've been making the stuff since way before
human
beings evolved. Then I add a dash of table salt. Costs around 15
cents.
Sometimes I add extra honey when I want a good spike of energy for
the
hills.

Sounds good for a little sugar spritz but for a long ride I fill one
bottle
with rice milk. Make a pot of rice the night before, overcook it, and
put
it in the blender with water and some nestle quik or cocoa powerder and
blend
it up. It's a bit chalky in texture but that's ok.

You can get a serious amount of easily accessible calories in a bottle
that
way, and for dirt cheap.

dkl

wrote:


Sounds good for a little sugar spritz but for a long ride I fill one
bottle
with rice milk. Make a pot of rice the night before, overcook it,
and
put
it in the blender with water and some nestle quik or cocoa powerder
and
blend
it up. It's a bit chalky in texture but that's ok.

You can get a serious amount of easily accessible calories in a
bottle
that
way, and for dirt cheap.

Why does it have to be in a bottle? PB & J has everything you need,
cheap, no cooking, 500 kcal a whack.

Peter Cole wrote:
wrote:


Sounds good for a little sugar spritz but for a long ride I fill
one
bottle
with rice milk. Make a pot of rice the night before, overcook it,
and
put
it in the blender with water and some nestle quik or cocoa powerder
and
blend
it up. It's a bit chalky in texture but that's ok.

You can get a serious amount of easily accessible calories in a
bottle
that
way, and for dirt cheap.

Why does it have to be in a bottle? PB & J has everything you need,
cheap, no cooking, 500 kcal a whack.

Because
a) you cant get to it while riding
b) it's not as readily digested as liquid food
3) You don't want 500 kcal at a whack, you want 30 or 50, and
much more often.
4) PBJ has too much fat and too little carbs. But this is minor
compared to 1,2, and 3.

We are talking about completely different things. You are
completely missing the point.

I have been doing medium-length rides on Sundays (75 miles). They
always start with a 2000 foot climb. I have found that by far the
best way to go about it is to begin sipping liquid food - food, not
gatorade -- within the first 10 minutes. Even though I am not hungry,
and pedalling uphill, and have no desire to eat, the best thing to
do is to sip it anyway. When I get to the top of the mountain I
really feel the difference - I am rarin' to go, just like when I
left the house, not like I usually am after an hour climb. Then
when I get home, I am not weak or famished, and don't need to eat
everything in the fridge or go out for a huge meal.

Try it and learn.

Doug

I use Gatorade all the time. I read an article in Running Room Magazine that
compared several and Gatorade seemed the most balanced.

Tastes good too.

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Peter Cole wrote:
wrote:


Sounds good for a little sugar spritz but for a long ride I fill
one
bottle
with rice milk. Make a pot of rice the night before, overcook it,
and
put
it in the blender with water and some nestle quik or cocoa powerder
and
blend
it up. It's a bit chalky in texture but that's ok.

You can get a serious amount of easily accessible calories in a
bottle
that
way, and for dirt cheap.

Why does it have to be in a bottle? PB & J has everything you need,
cheap, no cooking, 500 kcal a whack.

Because
a) you cant get to it while riding
b) it's not as readily digested as liquid food
3) You don't want 500 kcal at a whack, you want 30 or 50, and
much more often.
4) PBJ has too much fat and too little carbs. But this is minor
compared to 1,2, and 3.

We are talking about completely different things. You are
completely missing the point.

I have been doing medium-length rides on Sundays (75 miles). They
always start with a 2000 foot climb. I have found that by far the
best way to go about it is to begin sipping liquid food - food, not
gatorade -- within the first 10 minutes. Even though I am not hungry,
and pedalling uphill, and have no desire to eat, the best thing to
do is to sip it anyway. When I get to the top of the mountain I
really feel the difference - I am rarin' to go, just like when I
left the house, not like I usually am after an hour climb. Then
when I get home, I am not weak or famished, and don't need to eat
everything in the fridge or go out for a huge meal.

Try it and learn.

Doug