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  #81  
Old January 24th 20, 04:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
SMS
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On 1/23/2020 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 9:10:56 PM UTC+1, sms wrote:
On 1/22/2020 11:40 PM,
wrote:

snip

No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV.


A battery light with 4-5 AA cells is not a "normal" battery powered
light. A Duracell Alkaline AA cell at 1.0A discharge rate is rated at
about 500mAH. You do better with AA NiMH batteries, three Eneloop 2550
mAH batteries in series would give you 2250mAH at 3.6V.

The Oculus light uses a user-replaceable 4500mAH 26650/3.6V battery.

The GACIRON V9D-1800 uses two non-user replaceable 3350mAH 18650
batteries for 6700mAH at 3.6V.

The Lezyne Megadrive 1800i has two non-user replaceable 18650 batteries,
not sure of the capacity (actually you can replace them yourself if
you're willing to solder a connector onto a replacement pack).

All will put out far more elight than your EdeluxII, for a lot longer
than 90 minutes. If you run them on maximum power you'd only get around
1.5 hours, but maximum brightness is only necessary under certain
circumstances.


I must be trying the wrong ones then. I tried the Garmin Varia UT800 from a friend of mine. Because it has a GoPro interface it would be a promising option. After using it for an hour in freezing temperatures the light output was pathetic so I will stay with my dynohub solution and don't have to worry about the batteries run out of power or forgetting to charge them. YMMV.


The reviews of that light are not great. They don't specify the battery,
but I'd guess from the shape that it's a single 18650 cell. Without
knowing the specs, I'd guess that based on the price that they're not
using the highest capacity 18650 cells available, likely a 2600-3000mAH
cell.

This would be my choice for a sub-$100 all-in-one rechargeable Li-Ion
light: https://www.ebay.com/p/26025385144. First saw these at the
manufacturer's booth at Interbike in 2018 and bought the demo unit on
the last day of the show (the older 1600 lumen model). Besides the high
capacity battery, I like that the DRL operates in "breath mode" rather
than "flash mode."

Barry Beam's Oculus was also very good but a little more expensive.
That's the light that Frank bought, apparently when he finally realized
that he needed a higher-power light than what his dynamo light could
provide. Not sure if Oculus is still around. When I try to go to his
site https://www.barrybeams.com I get a "Certificate Error, This Site
is Not Secure." If I just use http://www.barrybeams.com I can get to
the site but under "Buy Now" it shows only two items, and they are both
for 2018 RAAM participants.
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  #82  
Old January 24th 20, 05:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, 24 January 2020 10:27:56 UTC-5, sms wrote:
On 1/23/2020 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 9:10:56 PM UTC+1, sms wrote:
On 1/22/2020 11:40 PM,
wrote:

snip

No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV.

A battery light with 4-5 AA cells is not a "normal" battery powered
light. A Duracell Alkaline AA cell at 1.0A discharge rate is rated at
about 500mAH. You do better with AA NiMH batteries, three Eneloop 2550
mAH batteries in series would give you 2250mAH at 3.6V.

The Oculus light uses a user-replaceable 4500mAH 26650/3.6V battery.

The GACIRON V9D-1800 uses two non-user replaceable 3350mAH 18650
batteries for 6700mAH at 3.6V.

The Lezyne Megadrive 1800i has two non-user replaceable 18650 batteries,
not sure of the capacity (actually you can replace them yourself if
you're willing to solder a connector onto a replacement pack).

All will put out far more elight than your EdeluxII, for a lot longer
than 90 minutes. If you run them on maximum power you'd only get around
1.5 hours, but maximum brightness is only necessary under certain
circumstances.


I must be trying the wrong ones then. I tried the Garmin Varia UT800 from a friend of mine. Because it has a GoPro interface it would be a promising option. After using it for an hour in freezing temperatures the light output was pathetic so I will stay with my dynohub solution and don't have to worry about the batteries run out of power or forgetting to charge them. YMMV.


The reviews of that light are not great. They don't specify the battery,
but I'd guess from the shape that it's a single 18650 cell. Without
knowing the specs, I'd guess that based on the price that they're not
using the highest capacity 18650 cells available, likely a 2600-3000mAH
cell.

This would be my choice for a sub-$100 all-in-one rechargeable Li-Ion
light: https://www.ebay.com/p/26025385144. First saw these at the
manufacturer's booth at Interbike in 2018 and bought the demo unit on
the last day of the show (the older 1600 lumen model). Besides the high
capacity battery, I like that the DRL operates in "breath mode" rather
than "flash mode."

Barry Beam's Oculus was also very good but a little more expensive.
That's the light that Frank bought, apparently when he finally realized
that he needed a higher-power light than what his dynamo light could
provide. Not sure if Oculus is still around. When I try to go to his
site https://www.barrybeams.com I get a "Certificate Error, This Site
is Not Secure." If I just use http://www.barrybeams.com I can get to
the site but under "Buy Now" it shows only two items, and they are both
for 2018 RAAM participants.


Ah but Frank does NOT USE his Oculus light. In fact he's offered to sell or trade it.

Cheers
  #83  
Old January 24th 20, 06:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 1/24/2020 11:08 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, 24 January 2020 10:27:56 UTC-5, sms wrote:

Barry Beam's Oculus was also very good but a little more expensive.
That's the light that Frank bought, apparently when he finally realized
that he needed a higher-power light than what his dynamo light could
provide.


Nope. I bought it specifically to review it, and posted the review here.
I figured I'd be able to sell it afterwards, but so far no takers. I'd
be more than happy to trade for a high end B&M light.

Ah but Frank does NOT USE his Oculus light. In fact he's offered to sell or trade it.


Yes, many times.

--
- Frank Krygowski
  #84  
Old January 24th 20, 07:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 1/24/2020 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote:

snip

In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system
that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called
out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was
unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one
would think to praise a cyclists using them.

I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the
personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own
garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per
capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles
owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city.

So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement
of dyno lighting and its users?

Why would he do that?

If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools,
ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno.


Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk

But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus??

--
- Frank Krygowski

I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg

"Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely
nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen


--
- Frank Krygowski

Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews.


I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ


Don't you think you're taking a chance in the extreme left wing communist inspired people on this group? Jay has a career as one of the great capitalists in this country and will STILL mouth communist homilies as often as he can fit them in.

No matter how often the failures of the leftist policies of Democrats he continues to think, "next time it will work."



Communist totalitarianism can work:
https://tinyurl.com/w4qdgg3

For various subsets of 'Work for whom?'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #85  
Old January 24th 20, 07:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:17:50 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/24/2020 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote:

snip

In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system
that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called
out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was
unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one
would think to praise a cyclists using them.

I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the
personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own
garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per
capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles
owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city.

So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement
of dyno lighting and its users?

Why would he do that?

If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools,
ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno.


Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk

But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus??

--
- Frank Krygowski

I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg

"Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely
nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen


--
- Frank Krygowski

Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews.

I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ


Don't you think you're taking a chance in the extreme left wing communist inspired people on this group? Jay has a career as one of the great capitalists in this country and will STILL mouth communist homilies as often as he can fit them in.

No matter how often the failures of the leftist policies of Democrats he continues to think, "next time it will work."



Communist totalitarianism can work:
https://tinyurl.com/w4qdgg3

For various subsets of 'Work for whom?'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


The estimate of the numbers of people that Stalin murdered for not wanting totalitarianism is 20 million. To listen to the Democrats they seem to think that an acceptable number here.

Mao's "cultural revolution" immediately murdered about 3 million. However, those were the 3 million who knew how to run the country - farmers, etc. and that was followed by a great famine that killed another 40 million.

It is not possible to have a "democratic socialism" because people will not willingly give up their money, their incomes and their businesses so the government takes it by force of arms. The trouble is as Frank fears most - the "gun nuts FAR outnumber any government bent on a dictatorship and they would wipe out a socialist government down to the last living being. Unlike Russia or China or Venezuela, the military would NOT side with the government for a full bowl of rice. They obey the Constitution and would NOT interfere in a war between the population of this country and a government bent on socialism.

This makes Frank feel awful and that is why he is so anti-gun.
  #86  
Old January 24th 20, 10:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 6:39:40 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:17:50 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/24/2020 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote:

snip

In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system
that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called
out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was
unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one
would think to praise a cyclists using them.

I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the
personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own
garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per
capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles
owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city.

So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement
of dyno lighting and its users?

Why would he do that?

If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools,
ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno.


Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk

But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus??

--
- Frank Krygowski

I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg

"Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely
nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen


--
- Frank Krygowski

Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews.

I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ

Don't you think you're taking a chance in the extreme left wing communist inspired people on this group? Jay has a career as one of the great capitalists in this country and will STILL mouth communist homilies as often as he can fit them in.

No matter how often the failures of the leftist policies of Democrats he continues to think, "next time it will work."



Communist totalitarianism can work:
https://tinyurl.com/w4qdgg3

For various subsets of 'Work for whom?'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


The estimate of the numbers of people that Stalin murdered for not wanting totalitarianism is 20 million. To listen to the Democrats they seem to think that an acceptable number here.

Mao's "cultural revolution" immediately murdered about 3 million. However, those were the 3 million who knew how to run the country - farmers, etc. and that was followed by a great famine that killed another 40 million.


It wasn't a revolution in the culture, it was a revolution against the cultured, meaning in the main the educated, who grasped that Mao was running their country into the ground, and whom he wanted removed. Smashing the fingers of pianists was incidental to the murder of every leading economist in the country.

It is not possible to have a "democratic socialism" because people will not willingly give up their money, their incomes and their businesses so the government takes it by force of arms. The trouble is as Frank fears most - the "gun nuts FAR outnumber any government bent on a dictatorship and they would wipe out a socialist government down to the last living being. Unlike Russia or China or Venezuela, the military would NOT side with the government for a full bowl of rice. They obey the Constitution and would NOT interfere in a war between the population of this country and a government bent on socialism.

This makes Frank feel awful and that is why he is so anti-gun.


Quite. Dictatorships fall when they lose control of the forces of oppression. The Afghanistan war ruined the Russian Army, and the pressures of Mr Reagan's SDI, commonly known as Star Wars Initiative, turned the "guns or butter" equation which had so long ruled Russian economics, and kept the Army and other forces of oppression happy at the expense of the populace, adversely against the Army because the most ruthless men in the Soviet Union were dead or sick and the latest Party Boss was an agriculturalist, so the populace got butter and the Army didn't guns, with predictable results.

I should also point out that Stalin was wildly popular, especially at times when we in the West think he was at his most evil. For instance, his 1937 Purge included in the lists* of those shot over 3000 KGB men of the rank of Colonel and higher, and the populace applauded. When Stalin died, Beria used trucks and tanks to control the grieving people who wanted to touch his corpse. The tank and truck sides ran with the blood of sorrowing Russians being crushed against the barriers. This is all true.

"Stalin used to stand at a lectern in his small office high up in the Kremlin and "seal" each page of the lists of those to be executed by a red tick from a wax pencil, sometimes without reading the list, sometimes commenting on names that caught his eye, along the lines of, "He was with me in the 1905 Revolution. How did he go so bad?" Then he would laugh and use his red wax pencil to seal the man's life and that of everyone else on the sheet.
  #87  
Old January 25th 20, 12:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:39:38 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:17:50 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/24/2020 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote:

snip

In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system
that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called
out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was
unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one
would think to praise a cyclists using them.

I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the
personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own
garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per
capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles
owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city.

So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement
of dyno lighting and its users?

Why would he do that?

If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools,
ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno.


Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk

But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus??

--
- Frank Krygowski

I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg

"Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely
nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen


--
- Frank Krygowski

Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews.

I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ

Don't you think you're taking a chance in the extreme left wing communist inspired people on this group? Jay has a career as one of the great capitalists in this country and will STILL mouth communist homilies as often as he can fit them in.

No matter how often the failures of the leftist policies of Democrats he continues to think, "next time it will work."



Communist totalitarianism can work:
https://tinyurl.com/w4qdgg3

For various subsets of 'Work for whom?'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


The estimate of the numbers of people that Stalin murdered for not wanting totalitarianism is 20 million. To listen to the Democrats they seem to think that an acceptable number here.

Mao's "cultural revolution" immediately murdered about 3 million. However, those were the 3 million who knew how to run the country - farmers, etc. and that was followed by a great famine that killed another 40 million.

It is not possible to have a "democratic socialism" because people will not willingly give up their money, their incomes and their businesses so the government takes it by force of arms. The trouble is as Frank fears most - the "gun nuts FAR outnumber any government bent on a dictatorship and they would wipe out a socialist government down to the last living being. Unlike Russia or China or Venezuela, the military would NOT side with the government for a full bowl of rice. They obey the Constitution and would NOT interfere in a war between the population of this country and a government bent on socialism.

This makes Frank feel awful and that is why he is so anti-gun.


Ah but you already are we4ll on the way on the road to socialism there
in the U.S. aren't you.

In 2012, roughly one-fifth of the U.S. population, or 52.2 million
people, received some kind of means-tested public assistance every
month. About 15% of the population was receiving Medicaid and 13% were
on food stamps and 1% were getting cash benefits through TANF or
General Assistance.

In addition
In 2012, an average of 41.6% of African Americans received
means-tested benefits each month. About 18% of Asians or Pacific
Islanders and 13% of whites received benefits each month. Thirty-six
percent of Hispanics of any race received government assistance.
https://tinyurl.com/snrebbs

Another study showed that
109,631,000 are stated by the Census Bureau as the number of Americans
receiving benefits from means-tested federal programs.
and
the Bureau of Labor Statistics figure for full-time workers
105,862,000 for 2013.
https://tinyurl.com/uautfuu
--
cheers,

John B.

  #88  
Old January 25th 20, 02:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 1/24/2020 5:35 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:39:38 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:17:50 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/24/2020 12:06 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote:

snip

In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system
that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called
out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was
unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one
would think to praise a cyclists using them.

I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the
personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own
garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per
capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles
owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city.

So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement
of dyno lighting and its users?

Why would he do that?

If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools,
ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno.


Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk

But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus??

--
- Frank Krygowski

I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg

"Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely
nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen


--
- Frank Krygowski

Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews.

I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ

Don't you think you're taking a chance in the extreme left wing communist inspired people on this group? Jay has a career as one of the great capitalists in this country and will STILL mouth communist homilies as often as he can fit them in.

No matter how often the failures of the leftist policies of Democrats he continues to think, "next time it will work."



Communist totalitarianism can work:
https://tinyurl.com/w4qdgg3

For various subsets of 'Work for whom?'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


The estimate of the numbers of people that Stalin murdered for not wanting totalitarianism is 20 million. To listen to the Democrats they seem to think that an acceptable number here.

Mao's "cultural revolution" immediately murdered about 3 million. However, those were the 3 million who knew how to run the country - farmers, etc. and that was followed by a great famine that killed another 40 million.

It is not possible to have a "democratic socialism" because people will not willingly give up their money, their incomes and their businesses so the government takes it by force of arms. The trouble is as Frank fears most - the "gun nuts FAR outnumber any government bent on a dictatorship and they would wipe out a socialist government down to the last living being. Unlike Russia or China or Venezuela, the military would NOT side with the government for a full bowl of rice. They obey the Constitution and would NOT interfere in a war between the population of this country and a government bent on socialism.

This makes Frank feel awful and that is why he is so anti-gun.


Ah but you already are we4ll on the way on the road to socialism there
in the U.S. aren't you.

In 2012, roughly one-fifth of the U.S. population, or 52.2 million
people, received some kind of means-tested public assistance every
month. About 15% of the population was receiving Medicaid and 13% were
on food stamps and 1% were getting cash benefits through TANF or
General Assistance.

In addition
In 2012, an average of 41.6% of African Americans received
means-tested benefits each month. About 18% of Asians or Pacific
Islanders and 13% of whites received benefits each month. Thirty-six
percent of Hispanics of any race received government assistance.
https://tinyurl.com/snrebbs

Another study showed that
109,631,000 are stated by the Census Bureau as the number of Americans
receiving benefits from means-tested federal programs.
and
the Bureau of Labor Statistics figure for full-time workers
105,862,000 for 2013.
https://tinyurl.com/uautfuu



Agreed, 2012 sucked. One might suggest that establishment
politicians were all, each and in the whole, of both major
filthy parties, inadequate to reverse those trends.

Hence our glorious day 8 November, 2016 when USAians had
simply had enough and took a giant leap of faith (or perhaps
desperation) into the unknown. Which worked out marvelously
only because there was no other way:
https://tinyurl.com/ss8kafy


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old January 25th 20, 08:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
news18
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 13:56:24 -0800, Andre Jute wrote:


Quite. Dictatorships fall when they lose control of the forces of
oppression. The Afghanistan war ruined the Russian Army, and the
pressures of Mr Reagan's SDI,


Anyone frightned of Stars wars must have been illiterate or did I miss
the meo that the USSr had put beacons on the nose of their rockets.
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Old January 25th 20, 11:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 7:35:44 AM UTC, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 13:56:24 -0800, Andre Jute wrote:


Quite. Dictatorships fall when they lose control of the forces of
oppression. The Afghanistan war ruined the Russian Army, and the
pressures of Mr Reagan's SDI,


Anyone frightned of Stars wars must have been illiterate or did I miss
the meo that the USSr had put beacons on the nose of their rockets.


You're so sharp, Little Peter, you should beware of cutting yourself on your foolish lip.

Andre Jute
The difference between a wit and dumbass buffoon is the the wit makes it look easy and natural, and the dumbass buffoon strains as if he were constipated.
 




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