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On 1/22/2020 8:34 PM, jbeattie wrote:
snip Ah Frank, if that is one of your usual put-downs, I have a battery light -- like I said. I have a dyno light and a battery light. Best of both worlds. I used both of them tonight. The hub drag is making me super-strong, too. For the one or two years after getting my no hole in crown fork, I just used my all-in-one battery light -- which was fine, but a few times I forgot to charge and had to make my way home with a blinky. I changed my situation by drilling my crown, tapping it and wiring up the mood light and reliving the same disappointment I experienced years ago. I changed my situation by getting back-up light which is useless as a primary light in many places I ride in my village. Your behavior constitutes a silent vote for batteries. |
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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:40:10 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:01:48 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk -- Jay Beattie. Jay I rode last night what I considered in the most challenging weather conditions concerning lights. Dark (of course), overcast, with drizzle and a a bit foggy. The weather condition where the light is scattered before it hits the wet shiny light absorbing black pavement. I put in my contacts instead of my prescription cycling glasses and it is flat here of course. I admit it is not the ideal situation but I still manage with my dynolight. I had to reduce my speed in some places but I still got an average of 27 km/hr over 36 km (10 km shorter than normal). My new gravel bike which I will use for winter evening rides will have through axles and my current dyno wheel is not suited for that, so I did some research and tried some battery lights lately. I did not found any battery light without the need to use a big bottle battery that could satify me. No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV. Dyno lights are particularly good for fog, actually, because a really bright light just bounces back at you -- same in snow. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:40:10 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:01:48 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk -- Jay Beattie. Jay I rode last night what I considered in the most challenging weather conditions concerning lights. Dark (of course), overcast, with drizzle and a a bit foggy. The weather condition where the light is scattered before it hits the wet shiny light absorbing black pavement. I put in my contacts instead of my prescription cycling glasses and it is flat here of course. I admit it is not the ideal situation but I still manage with my dynolight. I had to reduce my speed in some places but I still got an average of 27 km/hr over 36 km (10 km shorter than normal). My new gravel bike which I will use for winter evening rides will have through axles and my current dyno wheel is not suited for that, so I did some research and tried some battery lights lately. I did not found any battery light without the need to use a big bottle battery that could satify me. No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV. Lou My LUXOS B is particularly good in fog because a bright light just bounces back at me -- same in snow, and in snow, a little light on the ground goes a long way. The light is also good enough in no-light or moonlight flat terrain or well lighted city streets. It is terrible in heavy rain or wet roads with point-light pollution like head lights or strong building lights, and it is terrible on trail, broken pavement slow climbs and descending at more than 15mph. My L&M Urban 800 -- a $35 sale table all-in-one -- puts out more light on its lowest setting and far more light on the nominal 800 lumen setting, but battery life is short on maximum output. I use that on my trail segment home which is now over rip-rap (sharp road base rock) from a nearby road project. That segment also goes straight up hill -- next to 65 wide spaced steps up a dirt hillside under a highway off ramp. There is lots of urban trail in Portland. https://tinyurl.com/uvcez5w Count the steps, that trail drops off after the bench and is a dirt wall. The best I've done on that with a 34/28 is about 15 steps before I stall or spin out. It looks so forlorn in winter. It's like a jungle in spring. I like the battery light walking the last 40-50 steps. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:25:10 UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:40:10 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:01:48 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk -- Jay Beattie. Jay I rode last night what I considered in the most challenging weather conditions concerning lights. Dark (of course), overcast, with drizzle and a a bit foggy. The weather condition where the light is scattered before it hits the wet shiny light absorbing black pavement. I put in my contacts instead of my prescription cycling glasses and it is flat here of course. I admit it is not the ideal situation but I still manage with my dynolight. I had to reduce my speed in some places but I still got an average of 27 km/hr over 36 km (10 km shorter than normal). My new gravel bike which I will use for winter evening rides will have through axles and my current dyno wheel is not suited for that, so I did some research and tried some battery lights lately. I did not found any battery light without the need to use a big bottle battery that could satify me. No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV. Dyno lights are particularly good for fog, actually, because a really bright light just bounces back at you -- same in snow. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:40:10 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:01:48 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk -- Jay Beattie. Jay I rode last night what I considered in the most challenging weather conditions concerning lights. Dark (of course), overcast, with drizzle and a a bit foggy. The weather condition where the light is scattered before it hits the wet shiny light absorbing black pavement. I put in my contacts instead of my prescription cycling glasses and it is flat here of course. I admit it is not the ideal situation but I still manage with my dynolight. I had to reduce my speed in some places but I still got an average of 27 km/hr over 36 km (10 km shorter than normal). My new gravel bike which I will use for winter evening rides will have through axles and my current dyno wheel is not suited for that, so I did some research and tried some battery lights lately. I did not found any battery light without the need to use a big bottle battery that could satify me. No battery light with the normal 4-5 AA penlights batteries put on as much light on the road after 1.5 hour (!) than my current EdeluxII headlight with my SONdelux dynohub so I decided I will sell my current dynohub wheel and buy one with a dynohub for through axle before the next winter. Bummer. As always YMMV. Lou My LUXOS B is particularly good in fog because a bright light just bounces back at me -- same in snow, and in snow, a little light on the ground goes a long way. The light is also good enough in no-light or moonlight flat terrain or well lighted city streets. It is terrible in heavy rain or wet roads with point-light pollution like head lights or strong building lights, and it is terrible on trail, broken pavement slow climbs and descending at more than 15mph. My L&M Urban 800 -- a $35 sale table all-in-one -- puts out more light on its lowest setting and far more light on the nominal 800 lumen setting, but battery life is short on maximum output. I use that on my trail segment home which is now over rip-rap (sharp road base rock) from a nearby road project. That segment also goes straight up hill -- next to 65 wide spaced steps up a dirt hillside under a highway off ramp. There is lots of urban trail in Portland. https://tinyurl.com/uvcez5w Count the steps, that trail drops off after the bench and is a dirt wall. The best I've done on that with a 34/28 is about 15 steps before I stall or spin out. It looks so forlorn in winter. It's like a jungle in spring. I like the battery light walking the last 40-50 steps. -- Jay Beattie. In fog I put an amber cover on my battery powered bicycle front light. That stops the bounce back. When it's really cold I put the battery under my jacket and my body heat keeps the battery warm. Cheers |
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On 1/22/2020 11:34 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools, ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno. Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl.com/tblfewk But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus?? -- - Frank Krygowski I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg "Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen Ah Frank, if that is one of your usual put-downs, I have a battery light -- like I said. I have a dyno light and a battery light. Best of both worlds. I used both of them tonight. The hub drag is making me super-strong, too. For the one or two years after getting my no hole in crown fork, I just used my all-in-one battery light -- which was fine, but a few times I forgot to charge and had to make my way home with a blinky. I changed my situation by drilling my crown, tapping it and wiring up the mood light and reliving the same disappointment I experienced years ago. I changed my situation by getting back-up light which is useless as a primary light in many places I ride in my village. Jay, every time this comes up you tell us how bad your dyno light is. You've said it's too dim, you've called it a "mood light," you've said it "sucks," you've talked about it not shining on those dangerous leaves... ISTM the problem is fixable. If your hub or headlamp are defective, measurements should show that and we could discuss. (Did we ever get measurement results?) If your wiring is defective, we should be able to help you fix that. Maybe there's some other physical or technical problem with your setup we could discuss. Or maybe your riding style and night vision mean you're never going to be happy with even a fairly high end dyno and lamp. If that's the situation, well, you have a system that I would probably like. I have a headlight I almost never use, that you would probably like. The solution is obvious. One way or other, the problem seems to be fixable. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 1/23/2020 10:25 AM, jbeattie wrote:
Dyno lights are particularly good for fog, actually, because a really bright light just bounces back at you -- same in snow. I don't think the problem of light bouncing back to you is because they're "really bright." The problem is, high beams (or bike lights with primitive optic design) directed light upward (nearly) in front of your face. Those are the lumens that reflect off fog and snow to blind you. Proper, genuine fog lights on motor vehicles have a very strict upward cutoff for that reason. Bike lights with decent (StVZO) optics are somewhat similar. If you bought a battery light with either fog light optics or StVZO optics, I think it would be as good as your dyno light. My LUXOS B is particularly good in fog because a bright light just bounces back at me -- same in snow, and in snow, a little light on the ground goes a long way. The light is also good enough in no-light or moonlight flat terrain or well lighted city streets. It is terrible in heavy rain or wet roads with point-light pollution like head lights or strong building lights, and it is terrible on trail, broken pavement slow climbs and descending at more than 15mph. Funny thing. On the night ride I took around town last week, I was over 25mph on at least one downhill with no problem. Probably on two of them. I wasn't sure of my speed on the one because just as I hit my top speed, my cap blew off. I braked and pulled over, then went back to fetch it. It reminded me that I should have worn a cycling cap, instead of a ball cap with a much larger bill. My L&M Urban 800 -- a $35 sale table all-in-one -- puts out more light on its lowest setting and far more light on the nominal 800 lumen setting, but battery life is short on maximum output. I use that on my trail segment home which is now over rip-rap (sharp road base rock) from a nearby road project. That segment also goes straight up hill -- next to 65 wide spaced steps up a dirt hillside under a highway off ramp. There is lots of urban trail in Portland. https://tinyurl.com/uvcez5w Count the steps, that trail drops off after the bench and is a dirt wall. The best I've done on that with a 34/28 is about 15 steps before I stall or spin out. It looks so forlorn in winter. It's like a jungle in spring. I like the battery light walking the last 40-50 steps. I don't recall anyone here ever saying dyno lights were the best for off-road trail use, riding on rip-rap, absolute zero speed or anything similar. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/23/2020 10:25 AM, jbeattie wrote: Dyno lights are particularly good for fog, actually, because a really bright light just bounces back at you -- same in snow. I don't think the problem of light bouncing back to you is because they're "really bright." The problem is, high beams (or bike lights with primitive optic design) directed light upward (nearly) in front of your face. Those are the lumens that reflect off fog and snow to blind you. Proper, genuine fog lights on motor vehicles have a very strict upward cutoff for that reason. Bike lights with decent (StVZO) optics are somewhat similar. If you bought a battery light with either fog light optics or StVZO optics, I think it would be as good as your dyno light. My LUXOS B is particularly good in fog because a bright light just bounces back at me -- same in snow, and in snow, a little light on the ground goes a long way. The light is also good enough in no-light or moonlight flat terrain or well lighted city streets. It is terrible in heavy rain or wet roads with point-light pollution like head lights or strong building lights, and it is terrible on trail, broken pavement slow climbs and descending at more than 15mph. Funny thing. On the night ride I took around town last week, I was over 25mph on at least one downhill with no problem. Probably on two of them. Were you descending Campbell Hill? I found this interesting picture which shows the optional way home instead of the goat road(s) (there are two roads that wind up the hill toward my neighborhood on the second flattest route). https://tinyurl.com/wkopjsq Probably a third mile of stairs and cement ramps. Here is a picture of one of the ramp sections. https://tinyurl.com/uvoznuz I ride that section -- you have to be quick into your clips. I don't ride down it. Just digressing. Commuting gets so boring if you don't mix it up. I wasn't sure of my speed on the one because just as I hit my top speed, my cap blew off. I braked and pulled over, then went back to fetch it. It reminded me that I should have worn a cycling cap, instead of a ball cap with a much larger bill. My L&M Urban 800 -- a $35 sale table all-in-one -- puts out more light on its lowest setting and far more light on the nominal 800 lumen setting, but battery life is short on maximum output. I use that on my trail segment home which is now over rip-rap (sharp road base rock) from a nearby road project. That segment also goes straight up hill -- next to 65 wide spaced steps up a dirt hillside under a highway off ramp. There is lots of urban trail in Portland. https://tinyurl.com/uvcez5w Count the steps, that trail drops off after the bench and is a dirt wall. The best I've done on that with a 34/28 is about 15 steps before I stall or spin out. It looks so forlorn in winter. It's like a jungle in spring. I like the battery light walking the last 40-50 steps. I don't recall anyone here ever saying dyno lights were the best for off-road trail use, riding on rip-rap, absolute zero speed or anything similar. So what does a dyno user do? Answer: switch on the battery light, which is what I do. Like I said, the whole world is not like your village. I creep up hills, fly down hills, ride trail and generally spend most nights these days on light-sopping wet pavement. But the dyno is pretty good on the flats through the neighborhoods, although it doesn't keep people from trying to squash me -- even when I'm riding position one (because there is only one position on those narrow roads). It makes me long for the punishment flasher on my Seca 1400 (visible from outer space). -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 1/23/2020 3:03 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: I don't recall anyone here ever saying dyno lights were the best for off-road trail use, riding on rip-rap, absolute zero speed or anything similar. So what does a dyno user do? Answer: switch on the battery light, which is what I do. Which is fine. But if you bought your dyno system expecting it to be ideal for those conditions, you were misinformed. If you had described them in detail beforehand, several people here could have warned you. As it is, you're complaints sound like Joerg's. It's sad, but a low end mountain bike will not have tires and chains that last forever, it may break spokes if it's asked to carry 50 pounds of delicate electronic equipment over boulder fields while evading mountain lions. Similarly, a dyno system needs to move at least a few miles per hour to produce light, and an StVZO light is not designed to shine up into the trees. Although tilting a headlight upward is not impossible. Like I said, the whole world is not like your village. But it's not just my village. I use these lights in the city, in nearby suburbs, on country roads, on bike paths, and on trips to other cities, states and occasionally countries. I creep up hills, fly down hills, ride trail and generally spend most nights these days on light-sopping wet pavement. But the dyno is pretty good on the flats through the neighborhoods, although it doesn't keep people from trying to squash me ... Again, funny thing. On that same ride last week, I had the right-of-way on a residential street where an oncoming driver was going to turn left across my path. I was, oh, three hundred feet from him when he slowed and put on his turn signal. And he waited. And waited. And waited at least ten seconds until I was past him before he turned. Ten seconds is near infinity in "motorist waiting" time. Yet that experience has not been the least unusual for me. My dyno lights work so well that I have no need of battery lights, except to loan to friends whose batteries die. That's why I want to trade. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 4:34:59 AM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 4:40 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:17:17 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, sms wrote: On 1/17/2020 7:36 AM, sms wrote: snip In 2003 I was riding home from work with my homebrew lighting system that used two 14 watt 12V sealed beam halogen lamps and a kid called out "nice lights." Does that count as "congratulations?" It was unsolicited praise. These days good lights are so common that no one would think to praise a cyclists using them. I guess that I should also point out that besides probably 25% of the personally owned dyno lighting systems in my city being in my own garage, my city also probably has the most dyno equipped bicycles per capita of any city in the United States; this is due to the bicycles owned by a very large fruit company with its world headquarters in my city. So, have you stripped your websites of all your previous disparagement of dyno lighting and its users? Why would he do that? If a person spends ten years or more implying that dyno users are fools, ISTM he should say _something_ when he begins using a dyno. Dyno lights suck compared to decent LED battery lights except for the fact that you don't have to recharge them. I regard my dyno light as a novelty item or a back-up. But I must say that the dyno was almost acceptable on Monday when riding home on a rare dry night -- on a flattish part of my route. I thought "this is what it must be like for Frank." And then I started up the broken-up goat road and turned on my battery light. https://tinyurl.com/v8mod75 And yes, low tree branches are a thing. https://tinyurl..com/tblfewk But you don't want to trade for a brighter-than-the-sun Oculus?? -- - Frank Krygowski I already have a battery light -- in fact, three battery lights. I don't need four. And after drilling and tapping my thick-as-a-brick fork crown, I'm going to use the Luxos even if the light sucks -- sort of like a glowing hood ornament. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/30...19a3721acc.jpg "Some people keep complaining about their lives, but do absolutely nothing to change their situation". - Frederica Ehimen -- - Frank Krygowski Has your education fallen to such a low that you're now quoting radio hosts? Tell you what - should I quote Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or would you prefer Ben Shapiro who would probably make a marvelous President though people like you do not vote for Jews. I vote for Sean Hannity. He goes for the jugular, every time. -- AJ |
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