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Old January 16th 20, 05:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Default Girl, 4, died after bike helmet got caught on branch

A four-year-old girl died after her bike helmet got caught on a branch,
an inquest has heard.

Freya Thorpe "potentially slipped" as she climbed a tree after setting
her bike aside while playing with a friend in Upper Heyford, Bicester.

The court heard she was suspended from the branch and the helmet strap
became "tight against her throat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-51139789

A heartbreaking story.
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Old January 16th 20, 06:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Girl, 4, died after bike helmet got caught on branch

On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 4:45:13 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
A four-year-old girl died after her bike helmet got caught on a branch,
an inquest has heard.

Freya Thorpe "potentially slipped" as she climbed a tree after setting
her bike aside while playing with a friend in Upper Heyford, Bicester.

The court heard she was suspended from the branch and the helmet strap
became "tight against her throat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-51139789

A heartbreaking story.
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Not that uncommon.

QUOTE:
Across the world the deaths of a number of young children have been attributed to their wearing of cycle helmets. The most usual cause of death has been strangulation.The children were not cycling when the tragedies occurred, but it is common for children at play to swap between activities without changing what they wear.

Four pathologists writing in The Medical Journal of Australia say that "Accidental hanging is still occurring among young children who wear bicycle helmets while engaging in activities other than bicycle riding. … Although such deaths are rare, it is important for parents and child carers to ensure that bicycle helmets are only worn by children for their intended purpose." (Byard, Cala, Ritchey and Woodford, 2011)

In absolute terms, the risk of death through wearing a helmet is very small.. The information is significant mainly in the context that it is the only unambiguous evidence showing any relationship between fatalities and cycle helmet use. Fatalities are recorded comprehensively and accurately in most countries, but there is no statistically reliable evidence across any population of fewer deaths as helmet use has increased. A doctor in Sweden lamented, with regard to strangulations in that country and its child helmet law,


****"We know we have killed, but we can't show we have saved anyone". (Sweden, 1)****** (MY EMPHASIS)

https://www.cyclehelmets.org/1227.html
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Old January 16th 20, 06:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Girl, 4, died after bike helmet got caught on branch

On 16/01/2020 17:23, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 4:45:13 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
A four-year-old girl died after her bike helmet got caught on a branch,
an inquest has heard.

Freya Thorpe "potentially slipped" as she climbed a tree after setting
her bike aside while playing with a friend in Upper Heyford, Bicester.

The court heard she was suspended from the branch and the helmet strap
became "tight against her throat".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-51139789

A heartbreaking story.
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Bod


Not that uncommon.

QUOTE:
Across the world the deaths of a number of young children have been attributed to their wearing of cycle helmets. The most usual cause of death has been strangulation.The children were not cycling when the tragedies occurred, but it is common for children at play to swap between activities without changing what they wear.

Four pathologists writing in The Medical Journal of Australia say that "Accidental hanging is still occurring among young children who wear bicycle helmets while engaging in activities other than bicycle riding. … Although such deaths are rare, it is important for parents and child carers to ensure that bicycle helmets are only worn by children for their intended purpose." (Byard, Cala, Ritchey and Woodford, 2011)

In absolute terms, the risk of death through wearing a helmet is very small. The information is significant mainly in the context that it is the only unambiguous evidence showing any relationship between fatalities and cycle helmet use. Fatalities are recorded comprehensively and accurately in most countries, but there is no statistically reliable evidence across any population of fewer deaths as helmet use has increased. A doctor in Sweden lamented, with regard to strangulations in that country and its child helmet law,


****"We know we have killed, but we can't show we have saved anyone". (Sweden, 1)****** (MY EMPHASIS)

https://www.cyclehelmets.org/1227.html


So, is the correct inference:
a) Children should not wear cycle helmets, or
b) They should only wear them when cycling?


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Old January 16th 20, 06:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Girl, 4, died after bike helmet got caught on branch

On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:35:11 +0000, GB wrote:
On 16/01/2020 17:23, Simon Mason wrote:

In absolute terms, the risk of death through wearing a helmet is
very small. The information is significant mainly in the context
that it is the only unambiguous evidence showing any relationship
between fatalities and cycle helmet use.


So, is the correct inference:
a) Children should not wear cycle helmets, or
b) They should only wear them when cycling?


We don't even know that it's one of them.

We know children have been killed by their helmets when not cycling,
but we don't know how many others have been accidentally protected by
them. They might even be a net benefit when climbing trees, despite
this case.

That the fundamental problem - and the reason why most of the argument
against mandating helmet use is not saying they kill and injure but
rather that we don't know that they protect.

The concern is that politicians love to do something, even if it's
useless - so we get situations like the tower crane register that was
made law with much fanfare after a handful of crane collapses (which
killed a whole one member of the public in a decade) and quietly
revoked a couple of years later. That at least affected only a small
part of an industry that was already used to dealing with similar
requirements.

regards, Ian SMith
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