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Old March 31st 05, 09:54 PM
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Armstrong Aide: I Saw Banned Substance

By JIM VERTUNO
AP Sports Writer
Published March 31, 2005, 2:13 PM CST


AUSTIN, Texas -- A former personal assistant to Lance Armstrong filed
court papers Thursday alleging that he discovered a banned substance in
the six-time Tour de France winner's apartment early last year.

Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over
alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike shop,
made the claim in a brief filed in state district court. The brief does
not say whether Anderson saw Armstrong take any banned substances.

Armstrong, who has won a record six consecutive Tours, has maintained
that he is drug-free. The cancer survivor frequently notes he is one of
the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

A representative for Armstrong referred all questions to the cyclist's
attorney, Timothy Herman, who declined immediate comment because he
hasn't seen the brief. Armstrong is in Europe, where he finished 24th
at the Paris-Camembert race Tuesday.

Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona,
Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in "early 2004" when he
found a white box labeled "like any other prescription drug" but that
did not have a doctor's prescription attached.

Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or something
very close to this," Anderson said.

"He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web
site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a listed
banned substance," Anderson's court brief states, referring to the
World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Anderson said he put the box back where he found it. Fearing he would
be fired, he said he did not confront Armstrong about it. He said he
looked for the box again after Armstrong left Girona to train in the
Canary Islands, but didn't find it.

"He was torn about what to do. He's an honest guy opposed to doping in
sports," said Anderson's attorney, Hal Gillespie. "(But) he was sure
that if he confronted, he would be fired. He's got a wife and young
child, no money and a long way from home."

Gillespie said Anderson did not see Armstrong taking any steroids or
other banned substances.

Anderson's brief also said he and Armstrong had a discussion in 2004
about cyclists who dope and claimed Armstrong told him, "Everyone does
it."

Gillespie said that conversation took place before Anderson allegedly
found the steroid. The lawyer also said he plans to depose Armstrong.

Anderson said he believes Armstrong knew about the alleged discovery
because their relationship began to deteriorate almost immediately.

Anderson said he was working as a mechanic at a local bike store when
he met Armstrong more than four years ago. They became friends, often
riding together, and Anderson regularly worked on Armstrong's bikes
before becoming his personal assistant in November 2002.

Anderson said he was paid about $3,000 a month for duties that ranged
from building bike trails on Armstrong's Hill Country property to doing
his grocery shopping in Spain. He says he developed a close
relationship with Armstrong and his family.

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and
getting, a $500 a month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives
offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued
Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong pay
him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future
endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

Anderson countersued, accusing the cyclist of fraud, breach of contract
and causing him severe emotional distress. Anderson says an e-mail
Armstrong sent to offer him the job promised the help and should be
considered a binding contract.

Anderson said Armstrong also demanded he sign a confidentiality
agreement that would have held him liable for up to $1 million in
damages.

Thursday's filing was because the court wanted more details in support
of Anderson's claim.

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Old March 31st 05, 10:17 PM
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Wow. I know Hal Gillespie. Hal is a very, very good lawyer. Not so sure
what doping has to do with a bike shop. Sounds to me right now like sour
grapes.

I will call Hal and ask for a copy of the brief.
"crit PRO" wrote in message
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Armstrong Aide: I Saw Banned Substance

By JIM VERTUNO
AP Sports Writer
Published March 31, 2005, 2:13 PM CST


AUSTIN, Texas -- A former personal assistant to Lance Armstrong filed
court papers Thursday alleging that he discovered a banned substance in
the six-time Tour de France winner's apartment early last year.

Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over
alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike shop,
made the claim in a brief filed in state district court. The brief does
not say whether Anderson saw Armstrong take any banned substances.

Armstrong, who has won a record six consecutive Tours, has maintained
that he is drug-free. The cancer survivor frequently notes he is one of
the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

A representative for Armstrong referred all questions to the cyclist's
attorney, Timothy Herman, who declined immediate comment because he
hasn't seen the brief. Armstrong is in Europe, where he finished 24th
at the Paris-Camembert race Tuesday.

Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona,
Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in "early 2004" when he
found a white box labeled "like any other prescription drug" but that
did not have a doctor's prescription attached.

Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or something
very close to this," Anderson said.

"He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web
site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a listed
banned substance," Anderson's court brief states, referring to the
World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Anderson said he put the box back where he found it. Fearing he would
be fired, he said he did not confront Armstrong about it. He said he
looked for the box again after Armstrong left Girona to train in the
Canary Islands, but didn't find it.

"He was torn about what to do. He's an honest guy opposed to doping in
sports," said Anderson's attorney, Hal Gillespie. "(But) he was sure
that if he confronted, he would be fired. He's got a wife and young
child, no money and a long way from home."

Gillespie said Anderson did not see Armstrong taking any steroids or
other banned substances.

Anderson's brief also said he and Armstrong had a discussion in 2004
about cyclists who dope and claimed Armstrong told him, "Everyone does
it."

Gillespie said that conversation took place before Anderson allegedly
found the steroid. The lawyer also said he plans to depose Armstrong.

Anderson said he believes Armstrong knew about the alleged discovery
because their relationship began to deteriorate almost immediately.

Anderson said he was working as a mechanic at a local bike store when
he met Armstrong more than four years ago. They became friends, often
riding together, and Anderson regularly worked on Armstrong's bikes
before becoming his personal assistant in November 2002.

Anderson said he was paid about $3,000 a month for duties that ranged
from building bike trails on Armstrong's Hill Country property to doing
his grocery shopping in Spain. He says he developed a close
relationship with Armstrong and his family.

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and
getting, a $500 a month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives
offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued
Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong pay
him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future
endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

Anderson countersued, accusing the cyclist of fraud, breach of contract
and causing him severe emotional distress. Anderson says an e-mail
Armstrong sent to offer him the job promised the help and should be
considered a binding contract.

Anderson said Armstrong also demanded he sign a confidentiality
agreement that would have held him liable for up to $1 million in
damages.

Thursday's filing was because the court wanted more details in support
of Anderson's claim.



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Old March 31st 05, 10:18 PM
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crit PRO wrote:
Armstrong Aide: I Saw Banned Substance

By JIM VERTUNO
AP Sports Writer
Published March 31, 2005, 2:13 PM CST


AUSTIN, Texas -- A former personal assistant to Lance Armstrong filed
court papers Thursday alleging that he discovered a banned substance

in
the six-time Tour de France winner's apartment early last year.

Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over
alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike shop,
made the claim in a brief filed in state district court. The brief

does
not say whether Anderson saw Armstrong take any banned substances.

Armstrong, who has won a record six consecutive Tours, has maintained
that he is drug-free. The cancer survivor frequently notes he is one

of
the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

A representative for Armstrong referred all questions to the

cyclist's
attorney, Timothy Herman, who declined immediate comment because he
hasn't seen the brief. Armstrong is in Europe, where he finished 24th
at the Paris-Camembert race Tuesday.

Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona,
Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in "early 2004" when he
found a white box labeled "like any other prescription drug" but that
did not have a doctor's prescription attached.

Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or something
very close to this," Anderson said.

"He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web
site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a

listed
banned substance," Anderson's court brief states, referring to the
World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Anderson said he put the box back where he found it. Fearing he would
be fired, he said he did not confront Armstrong about it. He said he
looked for the box again after Armstrong left Girona to train in the
Canary Islands, but didn't find it.

"He was torn about what to do. He's an honest guy opposed to doping

in
sports," said Anderson's attorney, Hal Gillespie. "(But) he was sure
that if he confronted, he would be fired. He's got a wife and young
child, no money and a long way from home."

Gillespie said Anderson did not see Armstrong taking any steroids or
other banned substances.

Anderson's brief also said he and Armstrong had a discussion in 2004
about cyclists who dope and claimed Armstrong told him, "Everyone

does
it."

Gillespie said that conversation took place before Anderson allegedly
found the steroid. The lawyer also said he plans to depose Armstrong.

Anderson said he believes Armstrong knew about the alleged discovery
because their relationship began to deteriorate almost immediately.

Anderson said he was working as a mechanic at a local bike store when
he met Armstrong more than four years ago. They became friends, often
riding together, and Anderson regularly worked on Armstrong's bikes
before becoming his personal assistant in November 2002.

Anderson said he was paid about $3,000 a month for duties that ranged
from building bike trails on Armstrong's Hill Country property to

doing
his grocery shopping in Spain. He says he developed a close
relationship with Armstrong and his family.

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and
getting, a $500 a month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives
offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued
Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong

pay
him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future
endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

Anderson countersued, accusing the cyclist of fraud, breach of

contract
and causing him severe emotional distress. Anderson says an e-mail
Armstrong sent to offer him the job promised the help and should be
considered a binding contract.

Anderson said Armstrong also demanded he sign a confidentiality
agreement that would have held him liable for up to $1 million in
damages.

Thursday's filing was because the court wanted more details in

support
of Anderson's claim.


Geez, you gotta be kidding. Talk about your unfounded, unproveable
accusation.

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Old March 31st 05, 10:26 PM
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Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or

something
very close to this," Anderson said.


That isn't even a real drug you retard.

RVD

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Old March 31st 05, 10:28 PM
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By not real I mean it was over the counter bull**** that Mcquire
took..Way to "catch" him.

RVD

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Old March 31st 05, 10:47 PM
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Rik Van Diesel wrote:
By not real I mean it was over the counter bull**** that Mcquire
took..Way to "catch" him.

RVD


Maybe the IRS will look into if Mr Andersons wages had their taxes
removed. They got Capone on taxes

cp

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Old March 31st 05, 10:47 PM
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Steroids are the last thing a tested athlete would take. Most of those
stay in the system way too long compared to efficacy length of the drug
and are easily detectable.

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Old March 31st 05, 11:01 PM
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Ain't know way Lance is/was stupid enough to use 'androstendione' (sp?)
aka 'andro' or even have it in his house in '2004.

Aside from the fact that it's illegal, it's been shown to be
practically worthless as a performance enhancer.

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Old March 31st 05, 11:59 PM
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Scott wrote:
crit PRO wrote:
Armstrong Aide: I Saw Banned Substance

By JIM VERTUNO
AP Sports Writer
Published March 31, 2005, 2:13 PM CST


AUSTIN, Texas -- A former personal assistant to Lance Armstrong

filed
court papers Thursday alleging that he discovered a banned

substance
in
the six-time Tour de France winner's apartment early last year.

Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over
alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike

shop,
made the claim in a brief filed in state district court. The brief

does
not say whether Anderson saw Armstrong take any banned substances.

Armstrong, who has won a record six consecutive Tours, has

maintained
that he is drug-free. The cancer survivor frequently notes he is

one
of
the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

A representative for Armstrong referred all questions to the

cyclist's
attorney, Timothy Herman, who declined immediate comment because he
hasn't seen the brief. Armstrong is in Europe, where he finished

24th
at the Paris-Camembert race Tuesday.

Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona,
Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in "early 2004" when he
found a white box labeled "like any other prescription drug" but

that
did not have a doctor's prescription attached.

Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or

something
very close to this," Anderson said.

"He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web
site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a

listed
banned substance," Anderson's court brief states, referring to the
World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Anderson said he put the box back where he found it. Fearing he

would
be fired, he said he did not confront Armstrong about it. He said

he
looked for the box again after Armstrong left Girona to train in

the
Canary Islands, but didn't find it.

"He was torn about what to do. He's an honest guy opposed to doping

in
sports," said Anderson's attorney, Hal Gillespie. "(But) he was

sure
that if he confronted, he would be fired. He's got a wife and young
child, no money and a long way from home."

Gillespie said Anderson did not see Armstrong taking any steroids

or
other banned substances.

Anderson's brief also said he and Armstrong had a discussion in

2004
about cyclists who dope and claimed Armstrong told him, "Everyone

does
it."

Gillespie said that conversation took place before Anderson

allegedly
found the steroid. The lawyer also said he plans to depose

Armstrong.

Anderson said he believes Armstrong knew about the alleged

discovery
because their relationship began to deteriorate almost immediately.

Anderson said he was working as a mechanic at a local bike store

when
he met Armstrong more than four years ago. They became friends,

often
riding together, and Anderson regularly worked on Armstrong's bikes
before becoming his personal assistant in November 2002.

Anderson said he was paid about $3,000 a month for duties that

ranged
from building bike trails on Armstrong's Hill Country property to

doing
his grocery shopping in Spain. He says he developed a close
relationship with Armstrong and his family.

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and
getting, a $500 a month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives
offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued
Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong

pay
him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future
endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

Anderson countersued, accusing the cyclist of fraud, breach of

contract
and causing him severe emotional distress. Anderson says an e-mail
Armstrong sent to offer him the job promised the help and should be
considered a binding contract.

Anderson said Armstrong also demanded he sign a confidentiality
agreement that would have held him liable for up to $1 million in
damages.

Thursday's filing was because the court wanted more details in

support
of Anderson's claim.


Geez, you gotta be kidding. Talk about your unfounded, unproveable
accusation.


Definitely smells like the old "Give me money and I'll shut up and go
away" lawsuit. He said/she said, can't prove any of it one way or the
other. Reeks of pay me off or I'll make false accusations. Hey Jose's
making big bucks off of it, why not try to grab some for himself. Great
work as long as you have no problem with acting like a scumbag, and a
little extortion.
Bill C

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Old April 1st 05, 12:04 AM
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Scott wrote:
crit PRO wrote:
Armstrong Aide: I Saw Banned Substance

By JIM VERTUNO
AP Sports Writer
Published March 31, 2005, 2:13 PM CST


AUSTIN, Texas -- A former personal assistant to Lance Armstrong

filed
court papers Thursday alleging that he discovered a banned

substance
in
the six-time Tour de France winner's apartment early last year.

Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over
alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike

shop,
made the claim in a brief filed in state district court. The brief

does
not say whether Anderson saw Armstrong take any banned substances.

Armstrong, who has won a record six consecutive Tours, has

maintained
that he is drug-free. The cancer survivor frequently notes he is

one
of
the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

A representative for Armstrong referred all questions to the

cyclist's
attorney, Timothy Herman, who declined immediate comment because he
hasn't seen the brief. Armstrong is in Europe, where he finished

24th
at the Paris-Camembert race Tuesday.

Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona,
Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in "early 2004" when he
found a white box labeled "like any other prescription drug" but

that
did not have a doctor's prescription attached.

Written on the box was the trademark name "Androstenine, or

something
very close to this," Anderson said.

"He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web
site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a

listed
banned substance," Anderson's court brief states, referring to the
World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Anderson said he put the box back where he found it. Fearing he

would
be fired, he said he did not confront Armstrong about it. He said

he
looked for the box again after Armstrong left Girona to train in

the
Canary Islands, but didn't find it.

"He was torn about what to do. He's an honest guy opposed to doping

in
sports," said Anderson's attorney, Hal Gillespie. "(But) he was

sure
that if he confronted, he would be fired. He's got a wife and young
child, no money and a long way from home."

Gillespie said Anderson did not see Armstrong taking any steroids

or
other banned substances.

Anderson's brief also said he and Armstrong had a discussion in

2004
about cyclists who dope and claimed Armstrong told him, "Everyone

does
it."

Gillespie said that conversation took place before Anderson

allegedly
found the steroid. The lawyer also said he plans to depose

Armstrong.

Anderson said he believes Armstrong knew about the alleged

discovery
because their relationship began to deteriorate almost immediately.

Anderson said he was working as a mechanic at a local bike store

when
he met Armstrong more than four years ago. They became friends,

often
riding together, and Anderson regularly worked on Armstrong's bikes
before becoming his personal assistant in November 2002.

Anderson said he was paid about $3,000 a month for duties that

ranged
from building bike trails on Armstrong's Hill Country property to

doing
his grocery shopping in Spain. He says he developed a close
relationship with Armstrong and his family.

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and
getting, a $500 a month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives
offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued
Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong

pay
him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future
endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

Anderson countersued, accusing the cyclist of fraud, breach of

contract
and causing him severe emotional distress. Anderson says an e-mail
Armstrong sent to offer him the job promised the help and should be
considered a binding contract.

Anderson said Armstrong also demanded he sign a confidentiality
agreement that would have held him liable for up to $1 million in
damages.

Thursday's filing was because the court wanted more details in

support
of Anderson's claim.


Geez, you gotta be kidding. Talk about your unfounded, unproveable
accusation.


Definitely smells like the old "Give me money and I'll shut up and go
away" lawsuit. He said/she said, can't prove any of it one way or the
other. Reeks of pay me off or I'll make false accusations. Hey Jose's
making big bucks off of it, why not try to grab some for himself. Great
work as long as you have no problem with acting like a scumbag, and a
little extortion.
Bill C

 




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