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  #51  
Old July 23rd 14, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Unwise to try to damage wingmirrors of cars

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to replace.


Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.


If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.


Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark which
the car owner asked for.


Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door mirror and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?



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  #52  
Old July 23rd 14, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Unwise to try to damage wingmirrors of cars

On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.


Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark which
the car owner asked for.


Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door mirror and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?





Your opinion means such a lot to me.
  #53  
Old July 23rd 14, 12:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Unwise to try to damage wingmirrors of cars

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark which
the car owner asked for.


Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?


Your opinion means such a lot to me.


Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.


  #54  
Old July 23rd 14, 01:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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Default Unwise to try to damage wingmirrors of cars

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
Bret Cahill wrote:

Any wing mirror -- good term BTW --


It's British English[1], this is a British group

that costs more that $5 is a rip off.

We don't do dollars - see above


[1] Although mostly inaccurate - modern vehicles usually have door
mirrors, not wing mirrors.

  #55  
Old July 23rd 14, 02:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Unwise to try to damage wingmirrors of cars

On 23/07/2014 12:46, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark which
the car owner asked for.

Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?


Your opinion means such a lot to me.


Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.



I wonder why the car driver would have thought that the mirror was
damaged and that the cyclist should pay following the incident, if the
damage was not caused by the cyclist? Seems unlikely (to me and most
sane people) that the damage was caused by accidental hand impact during
an overtake.
  #56  
Old July 23rd 14, 03:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
On 23/07/2014 12:46, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to
replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark
which
the car owner asked for.

Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door
mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?

Your opinion means such a lot to me.


Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.


I wonder why the car driver would have thought that the mirror was damaged
and that the cyclist should pay following the incident, if the damage was
not caused by the cyclist?


Perhaps the driver thought incorrectly.

Seems unlikely (to me and most sane people) that the damage was caused by
accidental hand impact during an overtake.


Alleged damage. At least you have changed to "accidental".


  #57  
Old July 23rd 14, 04:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 23/07/2014 15:34, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
On 23/07/2014 12:46, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to
replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark
which
the car owner asked for.

Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door
mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?

Your opinion means such a lot to me.

Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.


I wonder why the car driver would have thought that the mirror was damaged
and that the cyclist should pay following the incident, if the damage was
not caused by the cyclist?


Perhaps the driver thought incorrectly.

Seems unlikely (to me and most sane people) that the damage was caused by
accidental hand impact during an overtake.


Alleged damage. At least you have changed to "accidental".



No, my stance remains the same, the claim by the cyclist is that the
contact was accidental, I believe the contact was deliberate on the part
of the cyclist.
  #58  
Old July 23rd 14, 04:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
On 23/07/2014 15:34, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
On 23/07/2014 12:46, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to
replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent
bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting
the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're
just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark
which
the car owner asked for.

Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door
mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?

Your opinion means such a lot to me.

Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.

I wonder why the car driver would have thought that the mirror was
damaged
and that the cyclist should pay following the incident, if the damage
was
not caused by the cyclist?


Perhaps the driver thought incorrectly.

Seems unlikely (to me and most sane people) that the damage was caused
by accidental hand impact during an overtake.


Alleged damage. At least you have changed to "accidental".


No, my stance remains the same, the claim by the cyclist is that the
contact was accidental, I believe the contact was deliberate on the part
of the cyclist.


Yes it appears there was some form of contact. Now, which person is being
charged for a crime?


  #59  
Old July 23rd 14, 05:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 23/07/2014 16:49, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
On 23/07/2014 15:34, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
On 23/07/2014 12:46, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 11:43, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 23/07/2014 10:33, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote

Many top end door mirrors cost over a thousand pounds each to
replace.

Yes, it is ridiculous for a mirror to cost more than a decent
bicycle
and
fall apart when touched instead of folding.

In the case in question it does sound as though the damage was
deliberately caused.

If a cyclist could damage the mirror of a moving car from a moving
bicycle
with his fist, he should be given a medal. Not just from getting
the
aim
but
to get any energy into a swing. Since it is so unlikely, you're
just
showing
your usual cluelessness.

Glass breaks very easily, and would cost around the 50 pound mark
which
the car owner asked for.

Then it seems you haven't a clue about the construction of a door
mirror
and
how the cyclist could possibly deliver a destructive blow while being
overtaken.

And you claim to be a competent mechanic?

Your opinion means such a lot to me.

Then we can take it that you have dropped your charge of "deliberate"
damage. Unless you want to suggest a credible mechanism.

I wonder why the car driver would have thought that the mirror was
damaged
and that the cyclist should pay following the incident, if the damage
was
not caused by the cyclist?

Perhaps the driver thought incorrectly.

Seems unlikely (to me and most sane people) that the damage was caused
by accidental hand impact during an overtake.

Alleged damage. At least you have changed to "accidental".


No, my stance remains the same, the claim by the cyclist is that the
contact was accidental, I believe the contact was deliberate on the part
of the cyclist.


Yes it appears there was some form of contact. Now, which person is being
charged for a crime?


That is not relevant to whether the event happened.
  #60  
Old July 23rd 14, 07:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.tech
John Kennerson[_2_]
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:56:09 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:


No, my stance remains the same, the claim by the cyclist is that the
contact was accidental, I believe the contact was deliberate on the part
of the cyclist.


Yes it appears there was some form of contact. Now, which person is being
charged for a crime?


That is not relevant to whether the event happened.



It's a helluva lot more relevant what the investigating officer and the Crown Prosecution Service
(and the judge; the car-driver was *convicted*, after all) thought, than some anonymous
cyclist-hating whacko on usenet.
 




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