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How Much Difference Do Shoes Make?
landotter wrote:
I never tightened my straps when I rode slot cleats, and never pulled out. If such shoes were still readily available, I'd likely still ride clips and straps. I like the positive feel. My 105 platforms from circa '90 were the pinnacle of feel and comfort. I wouldn't go back for love or money. I find clipless pedals/cleats to be much more comfortable. I also sometimes walk, and walking with slotted cleats (they were metal, back in the day, not plastic) was very awkward and slippery on many surfaces. Mountain-bike style clipless pedals (mine are Speedplay Frogs) allow you to walk without walking like a duck, and without damaging floors. -- David L. Johnson "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." --Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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How Much Difference Do Shoes Make?
On Jun 11, 1:51 am, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article , writes: Jorg Lueke writes: I use the regular strap in peddles that came with my bike and regular sneakers. They're not running shoes, pretty flat bottom and sturdy, but obviously not cycling shoes. Do the shoes make much difference? Would I notice an increase in efficiency over an hour or two of riding? I don't think you could detect efficiency but if you ride forcefully, you will notice that you can do things that are not possible with unattached shoes or even ones with straps and clips. Anything that can be done with ski-like cleated pedal/shoe combinations can be done with toeclips & straps. And that's a down-to-earth fact. It's also a fact that plastic-y toeclips such as Mt Zephals or Christophes along with slidy cordura straps on cage pedals with enough platform, are lovely. They allow the use of almost any sort of shoe, and the toeclips provide an armature around which to surround with pieces of inner tube rubber attached to the pedals with zip ties so as to protect shoes from rain. Cheaper and better than neoprene booties. The generic toeclip/strap sets at REI work pretty well. Plenty of toe box for my size 46 feet in Blundstone boots. I do prefer leather straps, as they don't fray and hold their shape better. The new chrome Soma double clips look to be the business as well. http://www.somafab.com/toeclip.html Okay, I don't like the Christophe toeclips as much. I'm not terribly enthusiastic about those three-bolt Shimano 105 thingies after all, either. Not enough toe box. The pedals are pretty, though. They were my favorite pedal with slot cleats, but pretty awful in any sort of street shoe. I think you were supposed to use a special cleat with them that not only had a slot, but a pointy bit up front that engaged a couple lips for super positive fee. I rode them with stock Diadora cleats and they were just wonderful. I suspect a lot of people shine on toeclips because they get a new bike with them installed as shop floor placeholders, find it difficult to stick their feet in them, and then move on to clipless pedals in the hopes that they're easier to use. Now you're talking about external cleats along with clips & straps. I'm talking about using clips & straps without the external, bolt-on, clackety cleats. Those things are to be reserved for the velodrome, along with double-strap toeclips. Mountain bike toeclips are a completely different system, designed with impromptu foot extractions in mind. Because there are no external cleats involved, all one needs to do to extract from them is to pull the feet backward and out. No lifting. Which I think is more intuitive than doing the Shimano, Chubby Checker Twist thing. I like spds and their clones. Simple and cheap. Lots of shoes you can mount them to. However, I do miss riding slots, as I could go for a training ride on the same bike that I used to buy post workout recovery beer. ;-) When I wear out my current spds, I might indeed mount up the ole MKS quills and have A. Muzi send me some of those nifty two bolt slot cleats they sell: http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html The price is a bit of a shocker for a wee bit of nylon. |
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