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  #31  
Old March 23rd 09, 03:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:22*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:


* * *McDonough said Sparks was brought on even though his hiring
* * *broke a USOC rule prohibiting coaches from engaging in
* * *ěsexual/romantic relationships with athletes or other
* * *participants over whom the coach has evaluative, direct or
* * *indirect authority.î


dumbass,


a very large percentage of female riders are romantically linked to
their coaches. i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing,
but it is a reality.


gov. bodies have to acknowledge it and design their policies
accordingly.


USOC policy supersedes NGB policy.

Magilla


dumbass,

i was talking about gov. bodies in general.

if operations (say team selection or allocation of resources) can be
corrupted by personal relationship (it could be parent-child
relationship too) the policy should be changed to fix it.


The policy already exists in the U.S., but is simply not being enforced
and violations are covered up. The arbitrator in the Becky Quinn case -
Michael A. Williams - got it wrong because he failed to see the USOC
policy that forbids coaches from having relationships with their riders
would have precluded Andy Sparks from being the coach of a team in which
his wife was on, since this would presumably lead to sabotaging other
riders who are in competition with Sarah Hammer to make the Olympic team.

Luckily karma retaliated against Andy Sparks and Sarah Hammer via
Mask-Gate.

Please note that USA Cycling did not change its policy after being sued by
Becky Quinn. What does that tell you about the ethics of Steve Johnson
and Sean Petty?


Thanks,

Magilla

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  #32  
Old March 23rd 09, 08:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:22*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

* * *McDonough said Sparks was brought on even though his hiring
* * *broke a USOC rule prohibiting coaches from engaging in
* * *ěsexual/romantic relationships with athletes or other
* * *participants over whom the coach has evaluative, direct or
* * *indirect authority.î

dumbass,

a very large percentage of female riders are romantically linked to
their coaches. i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing,
but it is a reality.

gov. bodies have to acknowledge it and design their policies
accordingly.

USOC policy supersedes NGB policy.

Magilla


dumbass,

i was talking about gov. bodies in general.

if operations (say team selection or allocation of resources) can be
corrupted by personal relationship (it could be parent-child
relationship too) the policy should be changed to fix it.


The policy already exists in the U.S., but is simply not being enforced
and violations are covered up. The arbitrator in the Becky Quinn case -
Michael A. Williams - got it wrong because he failed to see the USOC
policy that forbids coaches from having relationships with their riders
would have precluded Andy Sparks from being the coach of a team in which
his wife was on, since this would presumably lead to sabotaging other
riders who are in competition with Sarah Hammer to make the Olympic team.

Luckily karma retaliated against Andy Sparks and Sarah Hammer via
Mask-Gate.

Please note that USA Cycling did not change its policy after being sued by
Becky Quinn. What does that tell you about the ethics of Steve Johnson
and Sean Petty?


Minor quibble. Implicitly acknowledging that SJ an SP have
ethics weakens your argument. I have no opinion on the matter.

--
Michael Press
  #33  
Old March 23rd 09, 08:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:22*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

* * *McDonough said Sparks was brought on even though his hiring
* * *broke a USOC rule prohibiting coaches from engaging in
* * *ěsexual/romantic relationships with athletes or other
* * *participants over whom the coach has evaluative, direct or
* * *indirect authority.î

dumbass,

a very large percentage of female riders are romantically linked to
their coaches. i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing,
but it is a reality.

gov. bodies have to acknowledge it and design their policies
accordingly.

USOC policy supersedes NGB policy.

Magilla

dumbass,

i was talking about gov. bodies in general.

if operations (say team selection or allocation of resources) can be
corrupted by personal relationship (it could be parent-child
relationship too) the policy should be changed to fix it.


The policy already exists in the U.S., but is simply not being enforced
and violations are covered up. The arbitrator in the Becky Quinn case -
Michael A. Williams - got it wrong because he failed to see the USOC
policy that forbids coaches from having relationships with their riders
would have precluded Andy Sparks from being the coach of a team in which
his wife was on, since this would presumably lead to sabotaging other
riders who are in competition with Sarah Hammer to make the Olympic team.

Luckily karma retaliated against Andy Sparks and Sarah Hammer via
Mask-Gate.

Please note that USA Cycling did not change its policy after being sued by
Becky Quinn. What does that tell you about the ethics of Steve Johnson
and Sean Petty?


Minor quibble. Implicitly acknowledging that SJ an SP have
ethics weakens your argument. I have no opinion on the matter.

--
Michael Press


Are you saying that Steve Johnson and Sean Petty are crooks? Because they are.

Magilla

  #34  
Old March 23rd 09, 09:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Are you saying that Steve Johnson and Sean Petty are crooks? Because they
are.


One mans crook is another mans banker.
  #35  
Old March 24th 09, 04:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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Posts: 9,202
Default Vanderkitten

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:22*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

* * *McDonough said Sparks was brought on even though his hiring
* * *broke a USOC rule prohibiting coaches from engaging in
* * *ěsexual/romantic relationships with athletes or other
* * *participants over whom the coach has evaluative, direct or
* * *indirect authority.î

dumbass,

a very large percentage of female riders are romantically linked to
their coaches. i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing,
but it is a reality.

gov. bodies have to acknowledge it and design their policies
accordingly.

USOC policy supersedes NGB policy.

Magilla

dumbass,

i was talking about gov. bodies in general.

if operations (say team selection or allocation of resources) can be
corrupted by personal relationship (it could be parent-child
relationship too) the policy should be changed to fix it.

The policy already exists in the U.S., but is simply not being enforced
and violations are covered up. The arbitrator in the Becky Quinn case -
Michael A. Williams - got it wrong because he failed to see the USOC
policy that forbids coaches from having relationships with their riders
would have precluded Andy Sparks from being the coach of a team in which
his wife was on, since this would presumably lead to sabotaging other
riders who are in competition with Sarah Hammer to make the Olympic team.

Luckily karma retaliated against Andy Sparks and Sarah Hammer via
Mask-Gate.

Please note that USA Cycling did not change its policy after being sued by
Becky Quinn. What does that tell you about the ethics of Steve Johnson
and Sean Petty?


Minor quibble. Implicitly acknowledging that SJ an SP have
ethics weakens your argument. I have no opinion on the matter.


Are you saying that Steve Johnson and Sean Petty are crooks? Because they are.


Let me put it in the form of a story.

Upon seeing an elderly lady for the drafting of her will,
the attorney charged her $100. She gave him a $100 bill,
not noticing that stuck to it was a second $100 bill.

Immediatedly the ethical question arose in the attorney's
mind: "Do I tell my partner?"


I am also saying that you slow down in turns.

--
Michael Press
  #36  
Old March 24th 09, 04:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Posts: 2,668
Default Vanderkitten

Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:22*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

* * *McDonough said Sparks was brought on even though his hiring
* * *broke a USOC rule prohibiting coaches from engaging in
* * *ěsexual/romantic relationships with athletes or other
* * *participants over whom the coach has evaluative, direct or
* * *indirect authority.î

dumbass,

a very large percentage of female riders are romantically linked to
their coaches. i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing,
but it is a reality.

gov. bodies have to acknowledge it and design their policies
accordingly.

USOC policy supersedes NGB policy.

Magilla

dumbass,

i was talking about gov. bodies in general.

if operations (say team selection or allocation of resources) can be
corrupted by personal relationship (it could be parent-child
relationship too) the policy should be changed to fix it.

The policy already exists in the U.S., but is simply not being enforced
and violations are covered up. The arbitrator in the Becky Quinn case -
Michael A. Williams - got it wrong because he failed to see the USOC
policy that forbids coaches from having relationships with their riders
would have precluded Andy Sparks from being the coach of a team in which
his wife was on, since this would presumably lead to sabotaging other
riders who are in competition with Sarah Hammer to make the Olympic team.

Luckily karma retaliated against Andy Sparks and Sarah Hammer via
Mask-Gate.

Please note that USA Cycling did not change its policy after being sued by
Becky Quinn. What does that tell you about the ethics of Steve Johnson
and Sean Petty?

Minor quibble. Implicitly acknowledging that SJ an SP have
ethics weakens your argument. I have no opinion on the matter.


Are you saying that Steve Johnson and Sean Petty are crooks? Because they are.


Let me put it in the form of a story.

Upon seeing an elderly lady for the drafting of her will,
the attorney charged her $100. She gave him a $100 bill,
not noticing that stuck to it was a second $100 bill.

Immediatedly the ethical question arose in the attorney's
mind: "Do I tell my partner?"

I am also saying that you slow down in turns.

--
Michael Press


It's good to know I have another foot soldier in my Holy velodrome jihad against the
Dark Side.

Magilla

 




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