How fast was Cancellara?

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On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
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Oops.

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On Jul 7, 9:35 pm, wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:

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Oops.

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O'Grady didn't do too bad either. I take it that's him in the bottom
right.

Joseph

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On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
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Oops.

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How fast? Suspiciously fast.

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Michael Press

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You know, the Flemish commentators actually called him
"extraterrestrial"...

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E. Dronkert

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What interests me is that none of the commentators rate him as even an
outside bet for GC - the ITV4 team were describing him as a 'prologue
specialist'. Excuse me? For what is Paris-Roubaix the prologue?

Excellent time triallist, seems to do well in classics (PR, Ghent -
Wevelgem); won GC in the Tour of Denmark last year, and second on GC in
the Tour of Luxembourd the year before, but they're all flat and the
opposition wasn't first class.

However, he's got a lot of decent places in non-CLM stages in grand tours:

2007
4eme de la 6eme etape du Tour of California (Solvang CLM Ind)
3eme de la 2eme etape du Tour de Suisse (Olten - Luzern)
12eme de la 3eme etape du Tour de Suisse (Brunnen - Nauders (A))
2006

2005
7eme de la 1ere etape du Tour de France (Fromentine - ÃŽle de Noirmoutier
CLM Ind)
6eme de la 7eme etape du Tour de France (Lunéville - Karlsruhe)
3eme de la 21eme etape du Tour de France (Corbeil-Essonnes - Paris
Champs-Élysées)
6eme de la 5eme etape du Tour d'Allemagne (Sölden – Friedrichshafen)
3eme de la 9eme etape du Tour d'Allemagne (Bad Kreuznach – Bonn)

I know it's a joke that a Dane riding for a Dutch team gets to be King of
the Mountains with monotonous regularity, so there's no reason in
principle why there can't be a Swiss rider who's hopeless in the
mountains. In the 2005 mountain stages, his results were as follows:

9 145 at 19.06
10 139 at 38.11
11 120 at 39.46
12 151 at 11.13
14 120 at 35.50
15 101 at 37.57
16 92 at 20.16
(finished 128th on GC, took the white jersey)

.... which is crap. He basically came home in the bus every day. In 2006 he
wasn't on the start list for the Tour, but he rode the Vuelta. Mountain
stages:

5 137 at 27.59
7 136 at 20.49
9 129 at 29.45
(abandoned after stage 15 to prepare for ITT world champs)

.... again, no sign of climbing ability. However, stage 3 of this years Tour
de Suisse was this one:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007...ages/suisse073
which is not the least bit flat, and he finished 12th, just 7 seconds
behind the stage winner. He gave credit for his performance to the team:

"It is clear that the goal was to defend the jersey. The work my team did
today was extraordinary," he said with a smile. "Carlos and Frank are
capable of fighting for the general classification but when we have the
jersey on our shoulders, we are responsible for the chase."

So: he's the best time triallist in the world, he's won the white jersey,
he's shown he has the stamina to finish a grand tour; and he's shown he
can climb.

Fabian Cancellara is going to be a GC contender - if not this year, then
soon.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other
;; languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their
;; pockets for new vocabulary -- James D. Nicoll

On Jul 7, 2:13 pm, Michael Press wrote:
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On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
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Oops.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png

How fast? Suspiciously fast.

--
Michael Press





Dumbasses -


Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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On Jul 7, 9:35 pm, wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf-prologue.png

Oops.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png

O'Grady didn't do too bad either. I take it that's him in the bottom
right.

No, that was Ruben Lobato Elvira. Who looks to be as far off everyone else as
Cancellara, only in the opposite direction.

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tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

On Jul 7, 12:35 pm, wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:

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Oops.

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Needs to show the Millar line.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:22:08 +0100, Simon Brooke
wrote:

in message om,
(' ') wrote:

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What interests me is that none of the commentators rate him as even an
outside bet for GC - the ITV4 team were describing him as a 'prologue
specialist'. Excuse me? For what is Paris-Roubaix the prologue?


So: he's the best time triallist in the world, he's won the white jersey,
he's shown he has the stamina to finish a grand tour; and he's shown he
can climb.

Fabian Cancellara is going to be a GC contender - if not this year, then
soon.

Great guy, but that was not much of a mountain stage in the TDS when
he finished 7" down, a rolling climb at the end of the stage and he
was actually dropped and caught up by going flat out.

Commentators seem to think he is too heavy to climb, we shall see...