How fast was Cancellara?

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Michael Press wrote:

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wrote:

On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf-prologue.png

Oops.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png

How fast? Suspiciously fast.

Heh. Very much so.

Millar Line:

13 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval - Prodir 0.33

33 seconds down, and he's a TT specialist for whom this stage was a
goal? He really must be clean.

Cancellara (and Klodi) just announced that they are here to play.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

On Jul 7, 3:22 pm, Simon Brooke wrote:


Fabian Cancellara is going to be a GC contender - if not this year, then
soon.




Dumbass -


TT-ing is ability to make a high ratio of continuous power vs. frontal
area.

Climbing is a related, but different ability. It's continuous power
vs. mass.

There are many examples of world class TTers who were not able to keep
up with the world class climbers in the big mountain stages of the
Grand Tours.

There are also many examples of world class climbers who can't keep up
with world class TTers.

Which is not to say Cancellara won't be able to do both. I doubt it
though. He hasn't shown anything in the mountains.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

On Jul 7, 2:13 pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
. com,

wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf-prologue.png

Oops.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png

How fast? Suspiciously fast.

Dumbasses -

Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.

More like the integral of a unimodal distribution function.

--
Michael Press

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
ups.com...

Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.

Not to point out the obvious but there shouldn't be those sort of shapes in
a sport that has the best of the best.

On Jul 7, 6:22 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:13 pm, Michael Press wrote:

In article
. com,

wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf-prologue.png

Oops.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png

How fast? Suspiciously fast.

--
Michael Press

Dumbasses -

Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

dumbass,

your "observation" is non-sensical. you aren't looking at a probabilty
distribution. if you binned the riders' times and plotted you would
have a bell-shaped curve centered at about 48 kph

what's notable are the gaps from 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd. in a competitive
TT the chung chart should look sort-of logarithmic, plateauing at the
fastest riders. without the "flip up" at the top.

Tom Kunich wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
ups.com...
Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.

Not to point out the obvious but there shouldn't be those sort of shapes in
a sport that has the best of the best.


Except this isn't a group of riders selected for prologue ability, so a normal distribution makes sense.

Dan

wrote:
On Jul 7, 6:22 pm, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:13 pm, Michael Press wrote:

In article
. com,
wrote:
On Jul 7, 9:34 pm, wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf-prologue.png
Oops.
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf07-prologue.png
How fast? Suspiciously fast.
--
Michael Press
Dumbasses -

Turn the graph on its side and it's half of the classic bell-shaped
curve.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

dumbass,

your "observation" is non-sensical. you aren't looking at a probabilty
distribution. if you binned the riders' times and plotted you would
have a bell-shaped curve centered at about 48 kph

what's notable are the gaps from 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd. in a competitive
TT the chung chart should look sort-of logarithmic, plateauing at the
fastest riders. without the "flip up" at the top.

Log arithmetic WITH the flip up, if you please! When we used "Lincoln
Logs" in our 3rd grade math class you would not BELIEVE the fun we had
making miniscule catapults and flipping "Lincoln Logs" all over the
place! It was COOL!

By the way, doesn't today's Chung chart resemble Steve Carell's nose
just a bit?

Fred Fredburger
RBR Math Advisor

Fred Fredburger wrote:

Log arithmetic WITH the flip up, if you please! When we used "Lincoln
Logs" in our 3rd grade math class you would not BELIEVE the fun we had
making miniscule catapults and flipping "Lincoln Logs" all over the
place! It was COOL!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=lincoln+log

Kyle Legate wrote:
Fred Fredburger wrote:

Log arithmetic WITH the flip up, if you please! When we used "Lincoln
Logs" in our 3rd grade math class you would not BELIEVE the fun we had
making miniscule catapults and flipping "Lincoln Logs" all over the
place! It was COOL!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=lincoln+log

I wasn't aware of that but it's appropriate, given the Steve Carell
reference.

On Jul 7, 11:13 pm, Michael Press wrote:

How fast? Suspiciously fast.

How can you say that? Everyone signed the ProTour pledge so now, of
course, the peloton must be clean. To suggest otherwise would be
saying that the UCI, the WADA, and the ASO are simply promoting
insincere window dressing.