Raged motorist strikes two cyclists

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Either way, I have little sympathy for the driver. I've spent enough time
in the SE Clinton neighborhood to know that many drivers blast right
through there without stopping at stop signs and otherwise making
themselves a hazard to anyone who lives, works, or otherwise occupies
space in that neighborhood.

The reason they put speed bumps and traffic circles on SE Clinton was to
try to slow down idiots so they didn't create such a hazard.

Most likely, it never happened.

But, if his car got fist pounded by someone (and both pedestrians and
bicyclists do that all the time to idiots who deserve it in that area)
most likely it was well deserved.

My thought on a certain recent visit was "If I ever live in this part of
Portland I'll need to carry around a dozen rotten eggs for self defense
against the idiots that drive though here."

A rotten egg as a defense? The only thing hitting a car with a rotten egg
will do is get you in a fight.

Or maybe hit by a car, if you happen to pick a weirdo to throw eggs at.

Curt

On Aug 18, 11:41 pm, Bo Raxo wrote:
On Aug 18, 10:21 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"

On the contrary, we have:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00020531.htm

"Concurrent with the increase in helmet use, declines have occurred in
both the number of compensation claims filed with the Transport
Accident Commission (TAC), the sole motor-vehicle insurer in Victoria,
for severe bicycle injuries (fatal or resulting in hospitalization)
(Figure 2) and the number of cyclists with injuries who were admitted
to public hospitals (Figure 3). Based on comparison of claims
submitted to the TAC during 1989-1990 and 1990-1991, the number of
cyclists killed or hospitalized with head injuries decreased by 51%,
and the number with similarly severe injuries other than to the head
decreased by 24%; for public hospital admissions (Figure 3), these
numbers decreased 37% and 21%, respectively. "

In fairness, it would be neccesary to also know what (if any) decline
in bicycle usage occurred in the same period.

Cycling fatalities have been declining (until very recently) across
the board. Pedestrian fatalities have been declining at a similar
rate. Obviously the decline in pedestrian fatalities has nothing to do
with helmet use.

Robert

In article ,
"Bill Sornson" writes:
Klu Klux Klaners for the GOP wrote:

"KLANERS"??? LOL

I guess it's like the dry klaners.
Maybe they'll iron & press & starch
those pointy pillow-sack hats so the
tips don't droop like nightcaps.

That's gotta take a lotta starch.

A lotta starch.

And I guess smoking under one of those
pointy hats must be pretty hazardous.

It would be most interesting to witness
the Grand Dragon being taken out by his
own Camel[tm] filter cigarette. I suppose
the eye holes in his pointy pillow sack
would vent some of the smoke.

The Doobie Brothers' "Wind Driven Snow"
would make a good bg track for such a scene.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

On Aug 19, 1:36 am, "Curt" wrote:
"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in s.com...





Lobby Dosser wrote:
fred wrote:

Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Paul Berg wrote:
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The cyclists, 25-year-old Ben Ramsdell and 41-year-old Timothy
Mastne, were taken to OHSU. Their injuries were not
life-threatening. Neither cyclist was wearing a helmet.
Why is h*lm*t non-use always reported, when a foam bicycle hat
provides little more than bump and scrape protection?

And, perhaps more to the point, why don't they mention what the
injuries were? If the cyclists suffered head injuries, the helmet
thingy might be relevant. If they suffered broken limbs and no head
injuries, the helmet thingy would be shown to be irrelevant. By not
mentioning the type of injuries, they imply that they were head
injuries and that helmets might have made a difference.

Nope. They're just letting the public know that they are a couple of
morons.

I see that "Lobby Dosser" has uncritically accepted the bicycle helmet
propaganda designed primarily to drive the sales of foam bicycle hats.

ER docs and trauma nurses believe in bike helmets. Dunno why you wouldn't.

If I'm that bad off I wish to let the undertaker and the maggots have
their turn.

On Aug 19, 1:45 am, "Curt" wrote:
"Zoot Katz" wrote in message

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:47:47 -0700, cager scum, Klu Klux Klaners for
the GOP felt safe enough to spew:
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You guys ride 2 a piece in the bike lane, cars should give you 5 feet!!!
20-40 of you take up the whole car lane, I will have no sympathy when
some psycho loses it and mows you all down!! Cyclists are inconsiderate
assholes!!!!!!!!!!

And caged scud monkeys are filthy, stinking, noisey, petulant brats
intolerant of _anything_ in their way of attaining maximum speed.

You chicken**** thugs just wouldn't dare attack a backhoe with your
widdle cars is all.

Give your stinking car back to the bank.
You're obviously too immature to be trusted with it on the roads.

You know what I don't understand? Why do we put the bicycle lanes on the big
roads where most of the cars are? Why not put bike lanes on, say, Clay
Street from 50th to Water, and call it illegal to ride a bicycle more than
(say) two blocks on Hawthorne? Keep the bikes on the quiet streets and the
cars on the busy ones. Then you don't wind up with this stuff happening --
****ed off incompetent motorists coupled with self righteous prig bicyclists
can only be bad.

Curt

Magnetic casings for grenades would be neato. Sarin bombs, anyone?
Tire destroying 'jacks' and ninja stars also. Much more fun than
firearms of course.

Does anyone make a collapsible Pillory? A cost effective lightweight
crossbow?

On Aug 19, 1:49 am, wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:41 pm, Bo Raxo wrote:





On Aug 18, 10:21 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
On the contrary, we have:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00020531.htm

"Concurrent with the increase in helmet use, declines have occurred in
both the number of compensation claims filed with the Transport
Accident Commission (TAC), the sole motor-vehicle insurer in Victoria,
for severe bicycle injuries (fatal or resulting in hospitalization)
(Figure 2) and the number of cyclists with injuries who were admitted
to public hospitals (Figure 3). Based on comparison of claims
submitted to the TAC during 1989-1990 and 1990-1991, the number of
cyclists killed or hospitalized with head injuries decreased by 51%,
and the number with similarly severe injuries other than to the head
decreased by 24%; for public hospital admissions (Figure 3), these
numbers decreased 37% and 21%, respectively. "

In fairness, it would be neccesary to also know what (if any) decline
in bicycle usage occurred in the same period.

Cycling fatalities have been declining (until very recently) across
the board. Pedestrian fatalities have been declining at a similar
rate. Obviously the decline in pedestrian fatalities has nothing to do
with helmet use.

Robert

It was the hurricanes on NOLA. Everybody fractured and didn't care for
two weeks and some never shook it.

"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in message
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The ones I have seen have a paper thin shell. Only the older helmets
like the Kiwi and Bell Biker from the late 1970's to mid 1980's had real
hard shells. These helmets also weighed two to three times as much as
current production helmets.


As a M/C rider who has bicycle helmets in the house I could never understand
why they stopped producing the hard shell bike helmets.

The Kiwi and Bell Biker helmets were a lot lighter than a M/C helmet,
so it couldn't have been a weight thing because M/C riders wear helmets
all day long without trouble. Unless your average bicyclist is a wimp
compared to your average motorcyclist? Could that be it?

Without the hard outer shell the foam isn't going to do squat in an
accident.

Ted

So? Who cares? It's the weakest troll ever...stupid to as every one knows that
when a cager hits a rider of a single track convyance he or she is merely acting
out in frustration their inferiority complex because they realize that ALL
single track riders are superior in every way to any and all cagers.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:12:45 -0700, "Ted Mittelstaedt"
wrote:

As a M/C rider who has bicycle helmets in the house I could never understand
why they stopped producing the hard shell bike helmets.

Ventilation. A heat stressed cyclist is an endangered cyclist.
For the same reason lycra is preferred to leathers.
Downhill is the exception, more need of protection and overheating
isn't such a problem.

On Aug 19, 9:18 am, "Keith Schiffner" wrote:
So? Who cares? It's the weakest troll ever...stupid to as every one knows that
when a cager hits a rider of a single track convyance he or she is merely acting
out in frustration their inferiority complex because they realize that ALL
single track riders are superior in every way to any and all cagers.

That is certainly why all my friends, family, local clergy, and I hit
bikers!