Ken pledges £19.7m for cycling in London

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"TfL to spend £20m on London's cyclists
12:15, Nov 20th 2007 by Mark Sutton
Ken Livingstone pledges £20m for London Cycle Network
Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone has promised funding of £19.7m to boost
London's Cycle Network over the next five years.

Livingstone said: "Thanks to extra investment in local transport
schemes, cycling has increased by 83 per cent since 2000 and more than
1600 school travel plans have been approved which encourage and enable
more children and their parents to walk to school."

Additionally, the mayor has pledged £742,000 to the boroughs of south
London for cycle training schemes. All in all, the city will see £161m
to improving transport in the city."

Looks like Tom might be rather busy!
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Tony

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has
taken place"
George Bernard Shaw

Tony Raven wrote:
Ken Livingstone pledges £20m for London Cycle Network
Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone has promised funding of £19.7m to boost
London's Cycle Network over the next five years.

That's 50p per person per year.

--
Peter Fox
Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk

Tony Raven wrote:
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Ken Livingstone pledges £20m for London Cycle Network

Hope some of that is spent on more signs. I've never managed to follow a
LCN route for more than a short while before loosing it. If you don't know
the route in advance you will always eventually get to a junction with no
clue as to which way to go. Naturally, you take the wrong way and never see
any more signs for your route again and get lost deep in a network of
unfamiliar side roads, going round in circles trying to get back on route.

They may be busier, but I find it easier to find my way about on the main
roads. They have fewer junctions as well, and smoother surfaces, so are
safer in some ways. OTOH it is nice to have a quiet alternative sometimes,
and a lot of the LCN is on remarkably quiet roads.

~PB

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"Pete Biggs"
wrote:

Hope some of that is spent on more signs.

It would be good to have some signs removed; they have an expert team
clearing up the stick drawings of the poor cyclists ( at the scene of
a puncture?), but they scrupulously leave the outline of HIS bike. Are
they flattening statistics in some way?


I would favour naked streets with no lane markings; and certainly
cyclists should be better guided, rather than made a public mockery
of.

The cash savings from omitting road markings must be attractive.


--
Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

I hope these freeloading cyclists are going to pay the congestion
charge also a road fund licence and insurance and and what is more I
suspect they dont smoke or drink. I hate these arseholes with their
healthy ways - they park their bikes where ever they want, they don't
emit those life enhancing carbon monoxide fumes or indeed park on
double yellow lines in their top of the range tractors and block the
flowing traffic because 'they are worth it'. It is high time we took a
stance against these people with their normal blood pressure and
healthy pulse rates. Who the hell do they think they are? To add
insult to injury this meglomaniac Ken proposes to make their lot an
easier one. I was only speaking to Jeremy today and he is livid - I
can't quote his words. £19.7 million - do you know how many cars you
could buy for that? Something must be done! This is the thin edge of
the wedge - they will be asking us to walk and use public transport
next. Have to sign off now - blood pressure has increased and matron
is on her rounds - jelly tonight!

"Pete Biggs"
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Tony Raven wrote:
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Ken Livingstone pledges £20m for London Cycle Network

Hope some of that is spent on more signs. I've never managed to
follow a LCN route for more than a short while before loosing it.

[snip]

It could be worse. At least if you are travelling along a route
there are signs in theory, even if something sometimes goes wrong in
practice. However, it has never occurred to the planners that
somebody crossing a "bike route" might wish to know of its existence.
Bike routes are totally invisible from sideways on.

Traffic engineers can't get their head around the idea that cyclists
might use just any street they want to, wantonly ignoring the
expertise of the engineers

After all, if cyclists start using things that are "not a bike
route", where might that end. They might start defining themselves
as traffic. They might even start defining themselves as vehicular
traffic.

Jeremy Parker

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:49:18 -0000, Tony Raven
wrote:

Additionally, the mayor has pledged £742,000 to the boroughs of south
London for cycle training schemes.

That makes my ears prick up...

Lewisham has over 5500 Year 5 and 6 pupils in 65 schools.

I reckon it would take £270,000 to train 80% of those children in one
year.

It would cost an additional £30,000 to set up 8 resource bases, in key
schools, of 18 pool bikes, 20", 24" and 26" wheels.

My borough is receiving over £600,000 for LCN+ and non LCN work however it
seems that there is no money to maintain what has already been provided.

steve

"Tony Raven" wrote in message
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"TfL to spend £20m on London's cyclists
12:15, Nov 20th 2007 by Mark Sutton
Ken Livingstone pledges £20m for London Cycle Network
Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone has promised funding of £19.7m to boost
London's Cycle Network over the next five years.

Livingstone said: "Thanks to extra investment in local transport
schemes, cycling has increased by 83 per cent since 2000 and more than
1600 school travel plans have been approved which encourage and enable
more children and their parents to walk to school."

Additionally, the mayor has pledged £742,000 to the boroughs of south
London for cycle training schemes. All in all, the city will see £161m
to improving transport in the city."

Looks like Tom might be rather busy!
--
Tony

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has
taken place"
George Bernard Shaw

Jeremy Parker twisted the electrons to say:
Traffic engineers can't get their head around the idea that cyclists
might use just any street they want to, wantonly ignoring the
expertise of the engineers

Apparently the engineer responsible for the creation of a "round the edge
of the roundabout" cyclelane in York has since taken up cycling, and now
acknowledges that what he created is both stupid and dangerous. Sadly
that doesn't seem to be causing the council to remove it ... :-(
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